RE: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-13 Thread Baety Wayne A1C 18 CS/SCBX
mer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2001 3:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928] You're obviously a trainer! I am too. >> Only because I'm nit-picky enough to actually go and read the protocol specs to prove a

RE: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
You're obviously a trainer! I am too. The CRC is handled by the NIC, not the OS of the computer. Just a nit-picky thing. However, I also have to object to the main message that you are giving. I think it's very important to mention that it is rare that B1 (a bridge or router) would retransmit.

RE: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-12 Thread Baety Wayne A1C 18 CS/SCBX
Line hits are caused by physical disturbances, electronic influences on the transmission medium. The question draws attention to the serial connection between B1 and B2, and a possible difference between Ethernet connections. Ethernet makes no provision for physical layer protocol retransmission

Re: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
What did you have right to being with? Priscilla At 08:15 PM 11/12/01, Todd Carswell wrote: >Priscilla, > >After reading your reply, I see that I had it right to begin with. I read a >post on this board that asked a similar question on 11/5 and some of the >answers threw me off a bit. > >Thx >

Re: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-12 Thread Todd Carswell
Priscilla, After reading your reply, I see that I had it right to begin with. I read a post on this board that asked a similar question on 11/5 and some of the answers threw me off a bit. Thx Todd ""Priscilla Oppenheimer"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > At 02

Re: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 02:52 PM 11/12/01, jason wrote: > > FYI, the reliability of LLC Type 2 is usually end-to-end (host-to-host). > >Ouch, you got me! Didn't mean to "get you." It was just an FYI. ;-) > > An end-station host would retransmit if a frame didn't get > > acknowledged, not a router or bridge. When is

Re: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-12 Thread jason
> FYI, the reliability of LLC Type 2 is usually end-to-end (host-to-host). Ouch, you got me! > An end-station host would retransmit if a frame didn't get > acknowledged, not a router or bridge. When is that not the case? (A > CID-type question. ;-) Wl, what if the router were running dls

Re: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 10:12 AM 11/12/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Ether normally is connectionless and unreliable, so the frame would be >dropped by the receiver if an error is detected. A higher layer protocol >will have to request transmission from the source. > >However, LLC type 2 service (used primarily for SN

Re: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-12 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
It's PCA in both cases. How do you think B1 (running Ethernet) would even know that there was a line hit on the frame? It wouldn't. Ethernet is a best-effort, connectionless protocol, with no ACKs, sequence numbers, etc. You may be confusing media access control with reliability. Here's an an

Re: 2 "Line Hit" Scenarios... [7:25928]

2001-11-12 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ether normally is connectionless and unreliable, so the frame would be dropped by the receiver if an error is detected. A higher layer protocol will have to request transmission from the source. However, LLC type 2 service (used primarily for SNA) provides reliable, connection oriented service