Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-23 Thread Brian
Heres Cisco's definition. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/105/5.html Brian "Sonic" Whalen Success = Preparation + Opportunity On Wed, 23 May 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote: > At the risk of becoming another Bob Vance.. > > I'm reading Doug Comer's TCP/IP reference, on the assumption that it c

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread ElephantChild
On Wed, 23 May 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote: > So in other words, proxy arp may be viewed as something of an obsolete > protocol / operation in that most modern TCP stacks contain the mechanisms > for doing the network XOR determination, and then using the default gateway. > A modern stack would rec

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Don Snider
Child" To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:58 AM Subject: Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] > On Wed, 23 May 2001, Chuck Larrieu wrote: > > > So in other words, proxy arp may be viewed as something of an obsolete > > protocol / operation in that most modern TCP stacks contain

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Hire, Ejay
Proxy arp isn't dead, it is still in use very frequently on dial-up links. If you get a chance, dial-up to earthlink and run winipcfg. You'll see that your default gateway is actually set to yourself. Their is a reasonable explanation of this behavior in the Sybex CCNP switch 2.0 chapter on redu

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] Proxy arp isn't dead, it is still in use very frequently on dial-up links. If you get a chance, dial-up to earthlink and run winipcfg. You'll see that your default gateway is actually set to yourself. Their is a

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Tony Medeiros
#6172 - Original Message - From: Hire, Ejay To: Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:31 AM Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] > Proxy arp isn't dead, it is still in use very frequently on dial-up links. > If you get a chance, dial-up to earthlink and run winipcfg. You&#x

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 10:36 PM 5/23/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote: >At the risk of becoming another Bob Vance.. > >I'm reading Doug Comer's TCP/IP reference, on the assumption that it can't >hurt to really get into how TCP/IP works. > >Proxy-arp versus normal arp. > >A host does not know the physical address of anoth

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
ity to a client with any configured ip address and >gateway. > >Dean Whitley > >-Original Message- >From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:32 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] > > >Proxy

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Cornell Manea
tel can provide > >internet connectivity to a client with any > configured ip address and > >gateway. > > > >Dean Whitley > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Hire, Ejay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 10:32 AM &g

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ginal Message - From: Hire, Ejay To: > Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 7:31 AM Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp > [7:5664] > > > > Proxy arp isn't dead, it is still in use very frequently on dial-up > > links. If you get a chance, dial-up to earthlink and run w

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chuck, Proxy-arp is also useful for cases where you have multiple candidate DG's on the same segment and for whatever reason you can't or don't want to use HSRP/VRRP, IRDP or passive RIP. You can achieve a certain amount of load-balancing and failover using proxy-arp by pointing a hosts DG

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
and it will arp for its default gateway. The > > router with proxy arp will > > >answer as the default gateways mac address. Then > > using a wide scope for nat > > >(the scope would be the entire ip address range) > > the hotel can provide > > >

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Bob Vance
ROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] You missed the point. I know what Proxy ARP is. I assume the goal is that the traveller doesn't need to do any reconfiguration and can leave the

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread Bob Vance
, GA 30097-1511 = -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] Chuck, Proxy-a

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-24 Thread ElephantChild
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > At 10:36 PM 5/23/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote: > > >A host through it's TCP stack does the XOR and determines that a host lies > >on another network. The host therefore sends the packet to the device > >indicated as its default gateway in its config

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Priscilla Oppenheimer >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:24 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] > > >You missed the point. I know

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu
different subnets, because al hosts are on the same wire. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 12:04 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] I

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-25 Thread Bob Vance
uluth, GA 30097-1511 >= > > > > > >-----Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Priscilla Oppenheimer >Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 6:24 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sub

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
> >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Priscilla Oppenheimer >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:04 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] > > >If a router running Proxy ARP didn't h

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
lf Of >Priscilla Oppenheimer >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:04 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] > > >If a router running Proxy ARP didn't have a "route of last resort" or >"default route" would it still respond to an AR

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-25 Thread Chuck Larrieu
to cover all possibilities. Score one for the designer! Good call. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
>Chuck > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of >Priscilla Oppenheimer >Sent: Friday, May 25, 2001 3:24 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664] > >At 05:05 PM 5/25/01,

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-25 Thread Jason Roysdon
rk. In the case you, PO, mention, the router interface would have to > have secondary addressing to cover all possibilities. Score one for the > designer! Good call. > > Chuck > > > -Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of > Pr

Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-05-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
It would be terrific if PCs could join a network without tinkering with the TCP/IP control panel. It would be similar to the AppleTalk design of 1984! ;-) Anyway, I think I've proven my point that the hotel network will require quite a bit of ingenious design beyond just depending on Proxy ARP.

RE: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-06-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: ARP versus Proxy-arp [7:5664]

2001-06-10 Thread Pawel Sikora
- Original Message - From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" > > I also tried the original case, once I was sure Proxy ARP was really > enabled. I left my PC on its normal office config on network 208.x.x.x, but > connected to the lab network. The router complained about the source being > on a