Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-25 Thread Chuck
first of all, thanks for the research. it makes sense now that I've read through it. it appears that things have changed a lot since the days of ISAM/VSAM and hashed lookups. I recall reading a bit about CEF, and coming to a similar conclusion - that the Computer Science people have done

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-25 Thread Chuck
Michael L. Williams wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... snip a bit builds a routing table etc... I put the book down, pointed at it, and told my friend Don't by this book! I am appalled at what passes for techincal books (I guess I'm more sensitive about

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-24 Thread Kevin Jones
Ok. I found the source of the information. I would like to here your feedback on this. Course Technology * Thompson Learning, i-Net+ Guide to Internet Technologies, Jean Andrews, p. 443-445 What is the difference between a bridge and a switch? The main difference is how they work. A bridge

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-24 Thread Chuck
I used to wonder why I had such a hard time grasping technology concepts until I reached a level where I actually understood some of this stuff. Then I found that a lot of sources either did not understand the concepts themselves or worse yet, they were so imprecise with their language and

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-24 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Both bridges and switches learn the port to use to reach a MAC destination. If they haven't learned it yet, they flood the frame out all ports except the originating port. Jean Andrews has written some superb books on PC technology. I have a book by her called A+ Guide to Managing and

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-24 Thread Michael L. Williams
First let me say that I was looking for a book to recommend to a friend, and I picked up this same book in the store and thumbed through I actually happen to stop on the part where it talked about how a switch (bridge) builds a routing table etc... I put the book down, pointed at it, and

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-24 Thread Michael L. Williams
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Regarding the difference between a MAC table and CAM table: They are just different names for the same thing. One small quibble (heheh. don't you expect this from me by now =) Although they do essentially

RE: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-23 Thread R. Benjamin Kessler
:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 1:59 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649] I was under the impression that, while a switch is often termed a multiport bridge, there is one fundamental difference in the way the two devices

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-22 Thread Kevin Jones
I was under the impression that, while a switch is often termed a multiport bridge, there is one fundamental difference in the way the two devices forward frames. While my source is not always the most credible or reliable (Course Technology Networks Plus book), it does cause me to stop and

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-22 Thread John Neiberger
There are a few things wrong with that description. First, switches and/or bridges are layer two devices and wouldn't be aware of different IP subnets in the first place. A switch or bridge will forward a frame out all ports except the originating port if it has not yet learned the correct port

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 02:58 PM 5/22/02, Kevin Jones wrote: If a multiport bridge determines (based on the destination MAC address) that the destination node is on another subnet, Stop right there. It can't figure out that the destination is on a different subnet from the MAC address. Subnets are differentiated by

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-22 Thread Michael L. Williams
John Neiberger wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... However, it's still a rectangle when you get right down to it. Hey. A square isn't a rectangle!!! (just kidding I just thought I'd be stubborn... hehe) Good analogy.. Mike W. Message Posted at:

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-22 Thread Kevin Jones
I was oblivious to the fact that I was using the word subnet. What I should have used is the word segment. Anyway, I went back to what I thought was the source and was unable to find the description I had read. I'll look again. Not sure where I read it now. Anyway, this thread has confirmed

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-22 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 06:11 PM 5/22/02, Kevin Jones wrote: I was oblivious to the fact that I was using the word subnet. What I should have used is the word segment. Ah. That makes more sense. When a frame arrives, both bridges and switches send the frame on its way without sending it back onto the originating

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread John Neiberger
Marketing! A switch is simply a multiport bridge. Bridges originally had very few ports, as few as two. When hardware became faster and manufacturers started adding more ports to their bridges they started calling them switches to differentiate them from their slower brethren with fewer ports.

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread Michael L. Williams
A switch is a multiport bridge. Think of a bridge that bridges together 2 networks (i.e. has two interfaces, one in each network). Then supposed you upgrade to a 3 port bridge, that can connect 3 networks. keep adding ports up to 4, 8, 12, 24, or even 48 and that's a switch.

RE: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
A bridge spans a body of water so that two pieces of land can be connected and switch is used to control the flow of electricityJust kidding! Try this link (watch for wrap)!: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/bridging.htm Shawn K.

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread Peter van Oene
Switching is a marketing term. You would be wise to focus on Bridging and Routing and when the word switch appears, read to fine print to figure out if the device in question bridges or routes. At 02:57 PM 5/21/2002 -0400, rtiwari wrote: Could somebody will please describe me the difference

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread senthil
ideally when during evalution there was a need for a device to interconnect two networks and bridges came into existence which let two segments to be connected, so that alfi in accounts can send messages to rita in marketing. when the greedy boss extended the company he bought in many computers

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread MADMAN
Switch = mega interfaced bridge. Dave rtiwari wrote: Could somebody will please describe me the difference in between bridge and switch. Thanks Ravi -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect

RE: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread Moffett, Ryan
introduced into Ethernet switches, but at their base functionality, it's all pretty much the same. -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649] A switch

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread Peter van Oene
This begs the question, what is the difference between a multi-port bridge and a switch? Or, what is a switch when it routes? I personally think bridge and router convey with relatively little ambiguity the function of a device whereas switch is simply a tool that marketing folks use when

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread rtiwari
is it good to say that Bridge supports up to 16 ports ans is software based. but Switch supports any number od ports and is hardware based. Peter van Oene wrote: This begs the question, what is the difference between a multi-port bridge and a switch? Or, what is a switch when it

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread MADMAN
ditto, you won't get an argument from me!!! Peter van Oene wrote: This begs the question, what is the difference between a multi-port bridge and a switch? Or, what is a switch when it routes? I personally think bridge and router convey with relatively little ambiguity the function of a

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
And it's worth mentioning a couple other things too, just to confuse matters. ;-) Although a switch behaves like a multiport bridge, it is often placed in a topology where a hub used to go. Because a switch has so many ports, people use them to connect individual stations. Bridges were rarely

Re: Bridge and switch [7:44649]

2002-05-21 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
At 05:11 PM 5/21/02, rtiwari wrote: is it good to say that Bridge supports up to 16 ports ans is software based. No, I think the discriminator is 15 ports. Just KIDDING! Seriously, assigning a number is not necessary. Most bridges had just two ports, but there probably were a few vendors that