Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-14 Thread Craig Columbus
And I've worked in many places where the janitorial staff isn't allowed access to the datacenter / comm closets. It was strictly up to the IT staff to keep the place clean. Having a low tolerance for unpleasant looking curly hairballs on the floor, I was generally the one using the broom even

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-14 Thread Chuck
hahahahahaha you know, in many places, the janitorial staff will refuse to even open the door to a comms room, knowing they get blamed for anything bad that happens. I've always kept a broom handy for those little chores ""Gaz"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-14 Thread Gaz
How about this one: We used to provide troubleshooting support for a forces network which included some large sites and a few very minor (one or two user) sites. There had been problems with one of these small sites intermittently for a few weeks, but things got worse until it was dropping three

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-14 Thread Mike Mandulak
uot; To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:28 PM Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] > my favorite story was the company whose network went down every morning for > a few minutes just about the time the work force was sitting down, turning > on their PC's, and getting ready for the day.

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-14 Thread stephen skinner1
we CANT GET ACCESS !! BREATH.In.OUT. (by the way i AM JOKING and mean no offence ) CU steve - Original Message - From: "Chuck" To: Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2002 3:28 AM Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] > my favorite story was the company

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-14 Thread Kevin Cullimore
- From: "MADMAN" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] > Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, "did you change ANYTHING" > you get the answer, no. a long time later after you finally isloate the > problem the customer s

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-14 Thread Kevin Cullimore
- From: "MADMAN" To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:57 PM Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] > Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, "did you change ANYTHING" > you get the answer, no. a long time later after you finally isloate the > problem the customer s

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread Chuck
my favorite story was the company whose network went down every morning for a few minutes just about the time the work force was sitting down, turning on their PC's, and getting ready for the day. Now the obvious conclusion is "it's just busy that time of day" Except that it didn't necessarily hap

RE: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread Rah Hussain
Doh ;-) Rah -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 19:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, "did you change ANYTHING" you get the answer, no. a long time later

RE: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread Larry Letterman
:) Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MADMAN Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] Yes or when there is a problem and you ask

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread MADMAN
Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, "did you change ANYTHING" you get the answer, no. a long time later after you finally isloate the problem the customer says, "oh I didn't THINK that would have any effect on..." You want to say I didn't ask what changes you thought would cause the prob

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-) Priscilla At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote: >"Larry Letterman" wrote in message >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > A 40 router lab

RE: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-12 Thread Larry Letterman
Michael says.. Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael L. Williams Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 6:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] "Larry Letterman" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > A 40 router

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-12 Thread Michael L. Williams
"Larry Letterman" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a > production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites. Here here and to add to that. "... a production network with 20,000+ users at

RE: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-12 Thread Larry Letterman
Kevin Cullimore Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 3:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] Please don't discount the value of analyzing & troubleshooting poorly-designed networks. The learning opportunities are almost unimaginably vast. OTH, it probably takes sustained

Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-12 Thread Karl Thrasher
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Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-12 Thread Kevin Cullimore
Please don't discount the value of analyzing & troubleshooting poorly-designed networks. The learning opportunities are almost unimaginably vast. OTH, it probably takes sustained exposure to both for an adequate understanding of how all this stuff is supposed to function/interact. > Lucky for m