Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)
On Feb 17, 1:09pm, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: } Bruce Enders wrote: } } The simplest way I know of to explain these is to take the last } letter } (O or S) and associate that to where it will connect TO. So, an } FXO } connects to an Office (PBX or CO) and an FXS connects to a }

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)
On Feb 17, 1:19pm, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: } John Neiberger wrote: } } So, the FXS or FXO port on the router is labeled from the } perspective of } the device that connects to it? Yes, it is. } NO. It's labelled as what it IS. NO! It is labelled as the opposite (i.e.

RE: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)
On Feb 17, 11:35am, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: } } I learned voice from Randy Fischer, a brilliant engineer and helpful teacher } who works for Advanced Network Information, a Cisco training partner. Well, } at least he used to work there. I haven't talked to him in ages. } } His way to help

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)
On Feb 17, 11:30am, Chuck's Long Road wrote: } } The Cisco Call Manager Fundamentals book makes the rather brief assertion } that FXS ports provide connection to loop-start or ground-start telephone } lines, ... ( PBX ) ports, and other analogue telephone devices. FXO ports } provide connection

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)
On Feb 17, 10:46am, Chuck's Long Road wrote: } } In other words, an analog telephone set is an FXO device, and therefore No, an analogue telephone is an FXS device (an Office is what the telco has). The ports are named for the type of device that plugs into them. } Similarly, a PBX, or a

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)
On Feb 17, 2:01pm, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: } Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: } John Neiberger wrote: } } So, the FXS or FXO port on the router is labeled from the } perspective of the device that connects to it? } } NO. It's labelled as what it IS. } } In other words, a

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-10-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)
On Feb 17, 4:46pm, Chuck's Long Road wrote: } } so far as I know, this will not work. Cisco's IP phones are ethernet } devices, and must connect to a switch port. Well, you could use a hub if Yes. } IP phones are more akin to PC's, servers, etc, and you can't plug a PC into } either an

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-28 Thread Steven A. Ridder
iday, September 27, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331] [...] Yes, you connect a phone to a router's FXS port. That's not because the phone is a station, however. (That's what the NO referred to.) It's becaue the phone is an FXO d

RE: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Jennifer Mellone
That sounds great and makes more sense now! I always like reading your posts :-) I always confuse which device plugs into which port. I remember it like this: Plug phone or Station into FXS (where Station=S) Plug PBX/CO into FXO (where Office=0) - Jennifer Message Posted at:

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread John Neiberger
This has always been confusing to me. I think that the phone would be considered a station and should be an FXS device, while the upstream connection (thinking of Central OFFICE here) should be an FXO. :-) But that would be backwards from how it really is. I think. If I were to install Cisco

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Chuck's Long Road
I did some quick looks into a couple of books I have to see what they say. Scott Keagy's book Integrating Voice and Data Networks has nothing to say about FXO and FXS in particular. The Cisco Call Manager Fundamentals book makes the rather brief assertion that FXS ports provide connection to

RE: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Yes, I think that's a great way to explain it. It helps with the telephony example as well as helps newbies learning DTE/DCE. There's a discussion about DTE/DCE going on right now in the Associates group. I was thinking about using a telephone example to try to help. I learned voice from Randy

RE: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Gragido, William
: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331] That sounds great and makes more sense now! I always like reading your posts :-) I always confuse which device plugs into which port. I remember it like this: Plug phone or Station into FXS (where Station=S) Plug PBX/CO into FXO (where Office=0

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Sasa Milic
You can also connect DTE to DTE, as well as DCE to DCE, via null-modem cable. So, analogy with FXO/FSO is not correct. Sasa Chuck's Long Road wrote: Someone smarter than I made the following statements about FXO / FXS, in order to help me understand real world connectivity. That person

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Larry Letterman
Chuck, check out the voice over ip, frame and atm press book..its covered in there.. Chuck's Long Road wrote: I did some quick looks into a couple of books I have to see what they say. Scott Keagy's book Integrating Voice and Data Networks has nothing to say about FXO and FXS in particular.

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Sasa Milic wrote: You can also connect DTE to DTE, as well as DCE to DCE, via null-modem cable. So, analogy with FXO/FSO is not correct. I can connect two telephones together too, with a telephone line simulator. Also, to connect two routers back-to-back, you have to configure one to be

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Bruce Enders
The simplest way I know of to explain these is to take the last letter (O or S) and associate that to where it will connect TO. So, an FXO connects to an Office (PBX or CO) and an FXS connects to a Station device (Telephone, Fax, or answering machine). As Chuck suggests, if you are connecting

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Bruce Enders wrote: The simplest way I know of to explain these is to take the last letter (O or S) and associate that to where it will connect TO. So, an FXO connects to an Office (PBX or CO) and an FXS connects to a Station device (Telephone, Fax, or answering machine). The problem

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
John Neiberger wrote: So, the FXS or FXO port on the router is labeled from the perspective of the device that connects to it? NO. It's labelled as what it IS. In other words, a station connects to an FXS port? And a PBX connects to an FXO port? NO. This would be the opposite

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread John Neiberger
So, the FXS or FXO port on the router is labeled from the perspective of the device that connects to it? In other words, a station connects to an FXS port? And a PBX connects to an FXO port? This would be the opposite perspective from what they use when labelling their cabling, which is always

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: John Neiberger wrote: So, the FXS or FXO port on the router is labeled from the perspective of the device that connects to it? NO. It's labelled as what it IS. In other words, a station connects to an FXS port? And a PBX connects to an FXO

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Daniel Lafraia
: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331] [...] Yes, you connect a phone to a router's FXS port. That's not because the phone is a station, however. (That's what the NO referred to.) It's becaue the phone is an FXO device. FXS goes to FXO

RE: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread s vermill
Checking to see if my post is being filtered due to content or if there is some other problem... Chuck's Long Road wrote: Someone smarter than I made the following statements about FXO / FXS, in order to help me understand real world connectivity. That person said to think of FXO / FXS

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Chuck's Long Road
regular phone line, is it possible? - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331] [...] Yes, you connect a phone to a router's FXS port. That's not because the phone is a

RE: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread s vermill
I used to deploy small portable satcom packages for a living. One of the things I was routinely asked to do was to provide local Tampa dial tone to my customers no matter where in the world they traveled. So we would connect a device known as a Multi-Rate Voice Card (essentially just a codec

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Steven A. Ridder
PM Subject: Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331] [...] Yes, you connect a phone to a router's FXS port. That's not because the phone is a station, however. (That's what the NO referred to.) It's becaue the phone is an FXO device. FXS goes to FXO and vice versa.

Re: OT: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-09-27 Thread Chuck's Long Road
d for 2600 and play with it. Will I be able to have a good voice lab only with that? Maybe a FXO card and connect it in a regular phone line, is it possible? - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Friday, September 27, 2002 3:25 PM Subject: Re: