Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-25 Thread Ajaz Nawaz
David 100BaseT4 uses a standard RJ-45 connector with the same pinout as the 10BaseT specification, plus two bidirectional pairs (transmit on 1 and 2, receive on 3 and 6; bidirectional on 4 and 5; bidirectional on 7 and 8). Ajaz ""David L. Blair"" <> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[

RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-22 Thread Guyler, Rik [EESUS]
Title: RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45? This is not quite true.  You need to stipulate the caveat that 10BaseT and 100BaseT Ethernet in *half-duplex* do not use all 4 pair.  Full-duplex communication *does* require the additional pairs. Rik -Original Message- From: David L. Blair [mailto

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-22 Thread Gabriel
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > HP 100VG was a short lived 100 mbps networking technology that used all > eight wires. This enabled it to even run over category 3 cable as long as > none of the wires was being used for phone services. Ah, 100V

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-22 Thread Gabriel
""¡Shawn.!"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8q7lvt$16d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8q7lvt$16d$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > 100 Base T uses 2 pair (CAT 5) Technically "100baseTX", no? I thought "100baseT" was a generic term referring to either TX or T4. I'd also really like to know what the official

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-21 Thread Natasha
> Subject: Why 8 wires in RJ-45? > > > Hi group members > > > > In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the > other > > four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We don't > > use all of the wires. Why? > > > > Regards to all > > > > I was wondering

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-21 Thread David L. Blair
Future Needs. You are right that 10BaseT and 100BaseT do not use more than 4 wires, but 100VGLAN and 100Base4 do. Those specifications used the extra wires to transmit data at a slower speed. When you add up the additional data lines multiple, 4, by the slower speed, 25Mb, you get 100Mb transm

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-20 Thread Frank Jimenez
Additionally, the new IP Phones from Cisco can utilize the 'extra' pairs to power the telephones. Frank Jimenez, CCIE #5738 Systems Engineer Cisco Systems, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-20 Thread John Nemeth
On Feb 8, 5:12pm, "CCIE TB" wrote: } } In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the other } four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We don't } use all of the wires. Why? Because the standard actually comes from the telephony industry, whe

RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread hmalmgren
, September 19, 2000 9:43 AM To: CCIE TB; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45? I have pulled Cat 5 cable, some 20 to 30 1000' spools, in the last 2 years (about 5 miles of cable). One time, on a run of about 500', I had a break in one of the wires required for Ethernet. Instead

RE: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread Ray Mosely
I have pulled Cat 5 cable, some 20 to 30 1000' spools, in the last 2 years (about 5 miles of cable). One time, on a run of about 500', I had a break in one of the wires required for Ethernet. Instead of pulling the wire over again, I changed the color coding at each end and had a working cable.

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
>Hi group members > >In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need >the other four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of >cables. We don't use all of the wires. Why? > >Regards to all > For the RJ45 connector used with ISDN, the intention of the standards bodi

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread ¡Shawn.!
100 Base T uses 2 pair (CAT 5) 100 Base T4 uses 4 pair (CAT 3 - 4) "CCIE TB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi group members > > In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the other > four. The same thing applies to DB-2

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-19 Thread Joe Pollere
Some technologies do use all 8 wires. IE Gig E over copper uses all 4 pair. At 10:36 PM 9/18/00 -0400, you wrote: >Hi group members > >In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the >other four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We >don't use a

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-18 Thread Natasha
I was wondering that myself. Here are the top 10 possibilities, tung and cheek of course. 10) Copper mines are owned by Cisco! 9) It's a union thing, here's 20 bucks please don't ask again! 8) 4 more wires are there in case we forget the IEEE chapter of the networking manual, whoops! 7) For colo

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-18 Thread Tim Ross
Where I work, we have many Terminals in use (Memorex/Telex). When the cables for these were punchced down (Years ago), they decided to save money by using 25 pair Cat5 and only punching down one pair for each terminal. Now we are ready to upgrade to IP-based terminals (MTX 1683) and PCs in some ar

Re: Why 8 wires in RJ-45?

2000-09-18 Thread liu
for support more application. "CCIE TB" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi group members > > In TP cables we have eight wires. Only four are used. Why we need the other > four. The same thing applies to DB-25 and other types of cables. We don't >