[c-nsp] About duplicate message

2007-11-06 Thread Hiromasa Sekiguchi
Hi, The customer uses two cat3750 as stack. Suddenly slave switch was removed from stack and reset. I think the cause of this phenomenon is failure of stack cable or failure slave switch. I have a question. Before slave switch was removed from stack, the duplicate message was generated. --- sn

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Malitsky
Thanks everyone for the responses. What I am gathering is that I should move all remaining high-bandwidth customer connections to a 6500 (or another hardware-based L3 switch) and make use of the additional L2 features available on those platforms. If anyone is curious, the specific device I "lost"

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2007-11-06 15:53 -0500), Fred Reimer wrote: > If we can get a bunch of people to log the same issue then > there's a very slim chance to actually get this implemented in > some far-future version of code... Thanks Fred, I guess I'm not only one wanting this then (to me this really seems like

Re: [c-nsp] Need help with a solution...

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Malitsky
Cliff, Unless I am misunderstanding, this looks like a straightforward "routed networks behind PIX" scenario. Depending on complexity and scale, this could be as simple as a static route pointing back to the network(s) at center "B" and appropriate NAT/ACL statements on the PIX. Let me know if yo

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Kevin Graham
It's good to see the local-port-preference of the MEC, though I'd be interested in whether the same concept could be extended to include a line-card/ASIC preference for 10GEC's across oversubscribed modules such as 6708 and 6716. (Not going to bother contorting my interphalangeal's to see this on t

Re: [c-nsp] Recovering from disabled break squence

2007-11-06 Thread Sascha E. Pollok
> > i have messed up my router (3640) with a config-reg value of 0x3922 > > disabling the break sequence. Now, I am unable to get into ROMMON mode > > to change IOS. The current IOS does not detect my Ethernet module. > > Also, when I try to enter config mode it says: > > > > Router>enable > > % No

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS support for blksize / rfc 2348

2007-11-06 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi, On Nov 6, 2007 9:52 AM, Clinton Work <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm trying to determine when blksize / rfc 2348 support was added to > several Cisco IOS releases. It might have been added with defect > CSCds46280, but the bug report doesn't provide any details. Support > for tftp RFC234

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Fred Reimer
Let me rephrase that: How do we go about filing a PER so that a switch will accept the same static MAC address configured for port security on two different interfaces. For instance, say you have a customer that has a bunch of client routers plugged into a switch. You want to limit the number of

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Durack
The VSS stuff does look very promising. I hope some of the SIP cards are going to be supported down the line though. That would make this much more workable for me. Tim:> On Nov 6, 2007 11:57 AM, Brandon Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Documentation for the VS-S720-10G-3C is starting to

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Gustavo Novais
Cain also has a feature that allows you to traceroute based on ICMP, TCP or UDP. See www.oxid.it Gustavo Novais -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Byron L. Hicks Sent: terça-feira, 6 de Novembro de 2007 19:09 To: Jonathan Charles Cc: ci

Re: [c-nsp] ASA5520 stable code?

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Malitsky
I am running the following with no problems: 5510s with 7.2(3) - static routing, NAT, stateful firewall, IPSEC 5505s with 8.0(2) - NAT, stateful firewall, IPSEC PIX525s with 7.2(2)23 - static routing, NAT, stateful firewall, some OSPF Hope this helps, Michael > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2007 13:01:19 +0

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread bill fumerola
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 01:02:52PM -0600, Jonathan Charles wrote: > This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will > let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is > being blocked on a network... http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ > I run into

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Chris Boyd
FreeBSD, Linux and MacOS X have this as the "-p" option. FreeBSD and MacOS X wll also let you specify TCP/UDP, etc. --Chris On Nov 6, 2007, at 1:02 PM, Jonathan Charles wrote: > This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will > let me tracroute on a specific port to se

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread bill fumerola
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 02:30:10PM -0500, Aaron Daubman wrote: > > This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will > > let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is > > being blocked on a network... > > Check out the man page for traceroute: > http://deve

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread schilling
http://traceproto.sourceforge.net/ Traceproto is a traceroute replacement written in c that allows the user to specify the protocol and port to trace to. It currently supports tcp, udp, and icmp traces with the possibility of others in the future. On 11/6/07, Peter Fiers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Jeremy Stretch
The Linux tracepath utility should do what you need; it's effectively a traceroute using UDP on an arbitrary port: http://linux.die.net/man/8/tracepath Stretch Jonathan Charles wrote: > This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will > let me tracroute on a specific port

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Peter Fiers
Already tried 'traceroute -T -p 80' on a Linux-box? Am Dienstag, 6. November 2007 20:02 schrieb Jonathan Charles: > This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will > let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is > being blocked on a network... > > I run i

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Daniel Dib
Hey Michael. Here is something you can try out. Instead of using CoPP to limit ARP use the hardwarebased ratelimiters. mls rate-limit unicast cef glean 2 60 - This limits the number of ARP-packets punted to the RP of the type glean. This will occur when traffic is sent to a connected host fo

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Byron L. Hicks
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jonathan Charles wrote: > This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will > let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is > being blocked on a network... TCPTraceroute: http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptrace

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Aaron Daubman
Jonathan, > This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will > let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is > being blocked on a network... Check out the man page for traceroute: http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Darwin/Reference/Manpages/man8/tra

Re: [c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Masood Ahmad Shah
UNIX: http://michael.toren.net/code/tcptraceroute/ Windows: http://tracetcp.sourceforge.net/ Regards, Masood Ahmad Shah -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jonathan Charles Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 12:03 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether

[c-nsp] Port Traceroute utility?

2007-11-06 Thread Jonathan Charles
This is going to sound weird, but I am looking for a utility that will let me tracroute on a specific port to see if and where a port is being blocked on a network... I run into issues where customers have ACLs on their network (that they don't know about) and it is causing network failures... (us

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Church, Charles
Well, the good part is that the customers network being unusable took away any heat from your device being unusable. Unless of course you had multiple customers off that one router. You could front-end the router with a hardware L3 switch (3550 or so) that can police stuff at wire-rate. That sho

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2007-11-06 17:14 +), Sam Stickland wrote: > I'm sorry. I don't see how the configuration above would be different from > a configuration command that said "limit the number of MAC addresses on > this port to x". Can you explain? Consider topology: A --- Switch B In normal confi

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Justin Shore
Apparently I forgot to click the Send button last night. What process consumed the router's resources during the bcast storm? IP Input? What's the router? The type of device will dictate our suggestions. I'd take a number of steps to secure the interface and harden the router. Assuming it'

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Sam Stickland
Saku Ytti wrote: > On (2007-11-06 16:56 +), Sam Stickland wrote: > > >> switchport port-security >> switchport port-security maximum x >> switchport port-security aging time 5 >> switchport port-security violation restrict >> >> Port security doesn't permamently learn MAC addresses unless "s

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2007-11-06 16:56 +), Sam Stickland wrote: > switchport port-security > switchport port-security maximum x > switchport port-security aging time 5 > switchport port-security violation restrict > > Port security doesn't permamently learn MAC addresses unless "switchport > port-security mac-

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Brandon Bennett
> Documentation for the VS-S720-10G-3C is starting to show up on Cisco's > site. They are referring to it as Virtual Switching System 1440 by > virtue of it being a multi-chassis solution. The Supervisor itself > looks to be a rev of the SUP720. Here is a little write up a friend of mine did on my

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Sam Stickland
Saku Ytti wrote: > In my opinion cisco is lacking some elementary L2 security features, > like not being able to limit MAC addresses per port, without also > having port-security on > I think the following config should limit the MAC addresses for you: switchport port-security switchport port-

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS support for blksize / rfc 2348

2007-11-06 Thread Jason Gurtz
> I use tftpd32 for windows platforms and freebsd or sol9. I'll second that, lightweight, easy to use, and just works. We've had no problem working with a mélange of 87x, a 3640A, PIX 512e, and 3com 5500 series switches. ~JasonG -- ___ cisco-nsp ma

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2007-11-06 09:05 -0600), Michael Malitsky wrote: > I have some customers connected to a 6500, and already run stormcontrol > and portfast. I'll look into bpduguard as well, thanks. > > However, most of my customers are connected to "router" platforms (the > one specifically affected is a 720

Re: [c-nsp] 6509-NEB-A lifecycle

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Stevenson
Yes, the V-E chassis is the "E" version of the 6509-NEB-A. It has front to back cooling but aside from that is essentially the same as the horizontal 9 slot E chassis. Tim At 09:35 AM 11/6/2007 -0500, Tim Durack observed: >Some of the VSS1440 data sheets now refer to: "WS-C6509-V-E E-Series >9-

Re: [c-nsp] out-of-band management - modems?

2007-11-06 Thread jp
We use the Livingston PM2. One could hook a modem to it for either incoming or outgoing, but we telnet to it and attach to the serial ports for various devices. For your couriers, make sure you use the autoanswer dip switch setting rather than solely the autoanswer init string. On Mon, Nov 05,

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
> The homepage is here: http://www.cisco.com/go/vss > There is a very interesting white paper about how it works: >http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps9336/products_white_paper0900aecd806ee2ed.shtml >From the above URL: "Additionally, note that no Cisco 7600 Series chassis will be supported afte

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS support for blksize / rfc 2348

2007-11-06 Thread Aaron
I use tftpd32 for windows platforms and freebsd or sol9. Aaron On Nov 6, 2007 4:27 AM, Ian Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That matches my Solaris experience exactly. > I can confirm RFC2348 support in 12.2SR and 12.4/12.4T (ie c3845) as well. > > Ian > > Clinton Work wrote: > > Solaris 8

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Phil Mayers
On Tue, 2007-11-06 at 10:33 -0500, Phil Bedard wrote: > I saw a presentation on it some time ago and it looked very cool. As did I, but what wasn't made clear at the time was that all the linecards would need to be upgraded to DFC3C. In fact, I seem to recall being *explicitly* told that only the

Re: [c-nsp] BGP memory requirements

2007-11-06 Thread Bernd Ueberbacher
I don't have a 3845, but I know that it supports up to 1 gig and we have a 2821 with 1 gig that does just fine. We run a 2821 with 2 peers (full table) and it uses about 300 MB. The out-of-the-box 256 MB wasn't enough so we upgraded to a gig and I guess this should last for quite some time (hopefu

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Phil Bedard
I saw a presentation on it some time ago and it looked very cool. Phil On Nov 6, 2007, at 9:14 AM, Tim Durack wrote: > Documentation for the VS-S720-10G-3C is starting to show up on Cisco's > site. They are referring to it as Virtual Switching System 1440 by > virtue of it being a multi-chassis

[c-nsp] BGP memory requirements

2007-11-06 Thread Jonathan Charles
I am building a router for a customer, a 3845, and the customer needs a full routing table, how much RAM do I need? They also have a remote location with a 2851 that they want to do the same thing, is the 2851 capable of handling a full BGP feed? Jonathan ___

Re: [c-nsp] Broadcast storm control

2007-11-06 Thread Michael Malitsky
I have some customers connected to a 6500, and already run stormcontrol and portfast. I'll look into bpduguard as well, thanks. However, most of my customers are connected to "router" platforms (the one specifically affected is a 7200). As far as I know none of the actual L2 features apply there

Re: [c-nsp] 6509-NEB-A lifecycle

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Durack
Some of the VSS1440 data sheets now refer to: "WS-C6509-V-E E-Series 9-slot vertical chassis" Can't find any data sheets on this chassis yet though. Tim:> On Nov 3, 2007 9:52 AM, John Exum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Panduit makes a cabinet that does that. Their name for it is the Net-Access >

Re: [c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Christophe Fillot
Tim Durack a écrit : > Documentation for the VS-S720-10G-3C is starting to show up on Cisco's > site. They are referring to it as Virtual Switching System 1440 by > virtue of it being a multi-chassis solution. The Supervisor itself > looks to be a rev of the SUP720. > The homepage is here: http:

[c-nsp] VS-S720-10G-3C

2007-11-06 Thread Tim Durack
Documentation for the VS-S720-10G-3C is starting to show up on Cisco's site. They are referring to it as Virtual Switching System 1440 by virtue of it being a multi-chassis solution. The Supervisor itself looks to be a rev of the SUP720. Tim:> ___ cisco-

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Kevin . X . White
200+ switches 100 ish VLANs each on 10-50 swithches, thank goodness for VTP! Gert is dead right, been there, done that killed the switchblock. VTP Golden Rule No 1 If you take a switch in/out of production, clear the VTP revision number! Switch from server to trans or change the VTP domain. VT

Re: [c-nsp] Recovering from disabled break squence

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:01:42PM +0500, Junaid wrote: > i have messed up my router (3640) with a config-reg value of 0x3922 > disabling the break sequence. Now, I am unable to get into ROMMON mode > to change IOS. The current IOS does not detect my Ethernet module. > Also, when I try to ente

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Giles Coochey
> Hi, > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:39:45AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: > > I was kind of wondering the same thing... a couple hundred VLAN's spread > > across several 6500's and never had an issue in 7 years :) > > If you want fun, try this: > > - connect another switch, have it learn the

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 07:20:50AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: > We'd never do that scenario so that's possibly one reason we've never gotten > bit. One master across our network is all we have and all we want ;) > Everything else is a client Sure, VTP *is* quite useful, and most "VTP hor

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco's MVPN solution with or without MDT SAFI

2007-11-06 Thread Jeff Tantsura
Hi Rod, You should do it to fix CSCef97738 >From CCO: Even though the benefits of MDT SAFI are for SSM tree building, MDT SAFI must also be configured when using MVPN with the default MDT group in PIM sparse-mode. From the multicast point of view, the new BGP AF does not need to be configured for

[c-nsp] Recovering from disabled break squence

2007-11-06 Thread Junaid
Hi, i have messed up my router (3640) with a config-reg value of 0x3922 disabling the break sequence. Now, I am unable to get into ROMMON mode to change IOS. The current IOS does not detect my Ethernet module. Also, when I try to enter config mode it says: Router>enable % No password set Router>

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread sthaug
> I wonder, are the VTP horror stories from people who didn't set VTP > passwords to stop random "new" switches (that somehow had a higher version > number) from accidentally taking over the VLAN database? Some of us have had 6500 boxes as VTP masters and experienced complete meltdown of the net

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco 7301, Radius and AV-Pairs

2007-11-06 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Mike, can you show your complete vtemplate config? What happens if you apply "service-policy output policy-256" "manually" to the vtemplate interface, i.e. on the CLI? do you get any errors? Can you do a session without this attribute and do a "show int virtual-access conf" to see what's applied

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Stewart
We'd never do that scenario so that's possibly one reason we've never gotten bit. One master across our network is all we have and all we want ;) Everything else is a client Paul -Original Message- From: Gert Doering [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 7:18 AM

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 06:39:45AM -0500, Paul Stewart wrote: > I was kind of wondering the same thing... a couple hundred VLAN's spread > across several 6500's and never had an issue in 7 years :) If you want fun, try this: - connect another switch, have it learn the VTP database, make

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 05:06:28PM +0530, Raja Subramanian wrote: > This thread has got me thinking twice about my setup. What do you guys > recommend as an alternate to VTP? "no VTP" - for a dozen switches, you should get by with manually configuring VLANs on those switches where you need t

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Jon Lewis
On Tue, 6 Nov 2007, Paul Stewart wrote: > I was kind of wondering the same thing... a couple hundred VLAN's spread > across several 6500's and never had an issue in 7 years :) Same here...large number of VLANs, pretty good number of customer aggregation switches all running VTP for the past

Re: [c-nsp] out-of-band management - modems?

2007-11-06 Thread Alexander Koch
Folks, some of you use MRV, some Cyclades, and now I hear Lantronix. Does anyone want to comment (I can summarise if wanted) on how good these are when it comes to loads of servers? The 16 ports or so of some MRV I was in contact with at my previous employer were nice, but out of ports way too qui

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Paul Stewart
I was kind of wondering the same thing... a couple hundred VLAN's spread across several 6500's and never had an issue in 7 years :) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Raja Subramanian Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2007 6:36 AM To: cisco-nsp@

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Raja Subramanian
On 11/6/07, Ian Dickinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I do agree though that VTP is horrible if you have more than a small office > network with half a dozen vlans or so. I've made it my mission to eradicate > it wherever I find it. I have a network with a few dozen Cisco switches and ~ 50 VLANs

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Maik Bachmann
On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 04:39:52PM +0900, Daniel Hooper wrote: > Changing the mode will delete the vlan database off the switch. not on all models - there are some you have to delete vlan.dat from the filesystem. Usually it's a good idea to set transparent mode on _all_ switches and to set the v

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Kurt Bales
* I am a big fan of VTP. Argh... It really isnt my day! That was meant to read "NOT a big fan!" K. ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/c

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco IOS support for blksize / rfc 2348

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Dickinson
That matches my Solaris experience exactly. I can confirm RFC2348 support in 12.2SR and 12.4/12.4T (ie c3845) as well. Ian Clinton Work wrote: > Solaris 8 doesn't support blksize / RFC 2348 and there aren't any plans > for releasing a patch. Solaris 9/10 are fine and you can download the > Sun

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Ian Dickinson
Changing the mode will NOT delete the vlan database on 2900XL (nor any other Cisco switches I've encountered). For paranoia, I also change the vtp domain and password to something unique on every switch to reduce the impact if it is ever enabled again. The one thing you will possibly want to do p

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Sascha E. Pollok
> On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 03:38:21PM +1100, Kurt Bales wrote: > > I am a big fan of VTP. > > This will change over time :) Yesterdaaay. VTP probs seemed so faaar awayy.. > [..] > > I guess my question is, can I simply change every switch to "transparent" > > mode, and all will will operate happly

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Daniel Hooper) wrote: > Changing the mode will delete the vlan database off the switch. > > * I don't think I've met a network admin yet who is a fan of VTP :) Every network admin is until the first showdown of all their switches (happened to me around 2000, I'm cured). Elmar

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Nov 06, 2007 at 03:38:21PM +1100, Kurt Bales wrote: > I am a big fan of VTP. This will change over time :) [..] > I guess my question is, can I simply change every switch to "transparent" > mode, and all will will operate happly, or will I need to make another > switch set to server

Re: [c-nsp] Removing VTP Server switch

2007-11-06 Thread Daniel Hooper
Changing the mode will delete the vlan database off the switch. * I don't think I've met a network admin yet who is a fan of VTP :) -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kurt Bales Sent: Tuesday, 6 November 2007 1:38 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck