Re: [c-nsp] CSM for service providers

2008-04-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:02:21PM +0100, Dean Smith wrote: Our next load balancing requirement is now in design...and I spent today with a Foundry SE. You might want to check out the Citrix Netscaler series. We discovered them about two years ago, and are happy users since then. We do

Re: [c-nsp] IOS pirating requests

2008-04-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jeremy McDermond Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 3:42 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] IOS pirating requests On Apr 8, 2008, at 4:58 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: You really

Re: [c-nsp] IOS pirating requests

2008-04-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Varriale Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 7:48 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] IOS pirating requests I would disagree with what's mostly here. But, I'm guessing both of us

Re: [c-nsp] IOS pirating requests

2008-04-09 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Matthew Crocker Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2008 11:19 AM To: Tony Varriale Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] IOS pirating requests SOP is buy the chassis and routing engine new

Re: [c-nsp] WCCP on 3845/3745

2008-04-09 Thread George Horton
A sh run | in wccp gives me th following Larkhall_Academy#sh run | in wccp ip wccp 98 ip wccp 98 redirect in The ip wccp98 redirect in is applied to FastEthernet0/1 Attempting to remove either line with it's no version gives the same 'The WCCP service specified does not exist.' Error. Thanks

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again (was: CSM for service providers)

2008-04-09 Thread Mohacsi Janos
Dear All, On Tue, 8 Apr 2008, Peter Rathlev wrote: On Tue, 2008-04-08 at 22:15 +0200, Gert Doering wrote: snip PS: I'm sorry. This was my last 6500/7600 BU politics suck big time rant. Aww... It was beginning to get under my skin. ;-D While it won't change any time soon, this is just

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again (was: CSM f or service providers)

2008-04-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Gert Doering wrote: Indeed. Worse, they are now building increasingly different chassis types with different capabilities - 6500-E with lots of power, and 7600-S with nice and shiny high-availability EOBC (if I understand the differences right). What I would

Re: [c-nsp] SIP VoIP Config

2008-04-09 Thread Pedro Matusse
Hi Tom I've managed to get it working, tanks. The working config follow in attach. Now I've a second issue. The outbound calls are supposed to come from a CT Server (with a Dialogic D/240SC-T1 card) that connects to the router via a T1. During the test phase I'm also using an FXS. From the

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread Phil Mayers
Mark Tinka wrote: On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Gert Doering wrote: Indeed. Worse, they are now building increasingly different chassis types with different capabilities - 6500-E with lots of power, and 7600-S with nice and shiny high-availability EOBC (if I understand the differences

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
I note with concern that the Cisco product page lists the VSS as a different product to the base 6500. Ordinarily such a minor thing would not concern me, but as Gert has pointed out repeatedly, Cisco have made people very nervous about the 6500/7600 roadmap... I've been watching all

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:54:15AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote: Alternatively, if it's not at all too impossible, Cisco could craft a daughter -3CXL card for the SUP720-3BXL so we can get -3CXL functionality with a simple supervisor module PFC upgrade. I was under the impression the

Re: [c-nsp] Too many platforms?

2008-04-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008, mack wrote: Each one of these is catering to a smaller market segment. Basic economic would indicate that the market for a general purpose device is much larger than a more specialized device. Its great for selling new products into existing markets. Adrian

Re: [c-nsp] Too many platforms?

2008-04-09 Thread Tim Franklin
On Wed, April 9, 2008 12:27 pm, Adrian Chadd wrote: Its great for selling new products into existing markets. Or for losing existing markets to a vendor that isn't tearing itself apart with 'internal competition'. If I worked at Juniper, I'd be forwarding all the 'BU Wars' mails from this list

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again (was: CSM for service providers)

2008-04-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 05:29:55PM +0800, Mark Tinka wrote: Alternatively, if it's not at all too impossible, Cisco could craft a daughter -3CXL card for the SUP720-3BXL so we can get -3CXL functionality with a simple supervisor module PFC upgrade. As in -3BXL upgrade for the Sup32?

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again (was: CSM for service providers)

2008-04-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 10:37:10AM +0200, Mohacsi Janos wrote: Probably we have to ask the 7600 BU to improve their software and take decisions that make sense: - They should improve quality of the IOS softwares!! - I have heard that SRD will be tested more thoroughly... But currently

Re: [c-nsp] Too many platforms?

2008-04-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008, Tim Franklin wrote: On Wed, April 9, 2008 12:27 pm, Adrian Chadd wrote: Its great for selling new products into existing markets. Or for losing existing markets to a vendor that isn't tearing itself apart with 'internal competition'. If I worked at Juniper, I'd be

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 12:08:05PM +0200, Gert Doering wrote: There is a 3B - 3BXL upgrade, which used to cost exactly the same as the price difference between a Sup720/3B and a Sup720/3BXL (so it's not a we'll send you a new Sup720). So I'd assume that a - 3CXL upgrade should also

[c-nsp] Too many platforms?

2008-04-09 Thread mack
Has anyone considered that Cisco may be branching out to too many platforms? The 6500 was a great success because it was all purpose. It can switch and route. It doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the 12000 series or the CRS-1 but it performs well. Cisco has split off the almost

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread Mark Tinka
On Wednesday 09 April 2008, Phil Mayers wrote: I was under the impression the PFC is not an FRU. Well, AFAIK, you can upgrade a SUP720 with a PFC-3A to one with a PFC-3B or PFC-3BXL. The upgrade kit also comes with a label to attach to front of the supervisor module, identifying its PFC-type

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread Phil Mayers
Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: I note with concern that the Cisco product page lists the VSS as a different product to the base 6500. Ordinarily such a minor thing would not concern me, but as Gert has pointed out repeatedly, Cisco have made people very nervous about the 6500/7600

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread marco
Hi, There is a 3B - 3BXL upgrade, which used to cost exactly the same as the price difference between a Sup720/3B and a Sup720/3BXL (so it's not a we'll send you a new Sup720). Yup. The WS-F6K-PFC3BXL= is just that: a new -3BXL PFC and some memory to upgrade the Sup itself to 1GB RAM.

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread Marian Ďurkovič
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:37:01AM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote: It was also implied (bearing in mind I was talking to a 6500 guy) that the push came more from the 7600 side of the fence. This was publicly confirmed also from the 7600 BU folks. In fact, they explicitly asked for the split and

[c-nsp] TCLv2, Stream Association Failed: Requested codec=0x5=g711ulaw problem

2008-04-09 Thread Ganbold
Hi there, I'm having same problem as somebody described at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-voip/2005-March/003376.html. I have Cisco 5350XM and am trying to run TCL IVR v2.0 script app_debitcard.tcl Basically the error is: Apr 9 07:50:43.987: //55274//MSM :/ms_asDone_buginf: Stream

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread John Kougoulos
Certainly Cisco must (should) have had numbers demonstrating the split was reasonable, and it's possible the group of people on this list, myself included, who dislike the split are a self-selecting minority. It doesn't mean I have to like it though. Time and customers will show if this

Re: [c-nsp] csm Bride Mode Simple scenario. Is it Possible?

2008-04-09 Thread Brad Case
Hey Arie, I actually asked this same question to Cisco. The official response I got was this: Extract: This should work to some extent. However, for the large network I don't know how reliable you can run this system for sure. You are basically forcing static route in MSFC to forward traffic

[c-nsp] Cisco PIX snmp filter

2008-04-09 Thread Bagosi Rómeó
Hello Experts! Can the Cisco PIX v6 or v7 filter the SNMP request going through the firewall for a specific OID only? Thank you, BR ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp

Re: [c-nsp] csm Bride Mode Simple scenario. Is it Possible?

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Riling
I have several VIPs in different subnets than the reals, but he's right to some extent, the static routing can be cumbersome. I inherited an environment where IP space overlapped, and existed on both sides of the CSM, and there were a bunch of more specific routes pointed toward the CSM client

Re: [c-nsp] csm Bride Mode Simple scenario. Is it Possible?

2008-04-09 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:02:06PM +1000, Brad Case wrote: I actually asked this same question to Cisco. The official response I got was this: Extract: This should work to some extent. However, for the large network I don't know how reliable you can run this system for sure. You are

[c-nsp] Identifying BGP route flapping

2008-04-09 Thread Frank Bulk
We had an incident a little over a week ago where our upstream provider (which managers our edge routers) told us that the BGP routes were flapping between our two edge routers. Is there a MIB that we can poll to monitor the number of changes in routing tables, or BGP flaps? Regards, Frank

Re: [c-nsp] Switch that can shape traffic per VLAN and re-writeVLAN ID?

2008-04-09 Thread jon . hartman
The 3550 can perform per-port/per-VLAN MQC. I can't speak for the VLAN ID rewriting, though, and I don't believe this functionality exists in the 3560. Jon Hartman Network Engineering Verizon Internet Operations

Re: [c-nsp] csm Bride Mode Simple scenario. Is it Possible?

2008-04-09 Thread Chris Riling
This is the same way I'm doing it; there is a bit of administrative overhead though... Chris On 4/9/08, Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Apr 09, 2008 at 11:02:06PM +1000, Brad Case wrote: I actually asked this same question to Cisco. The official response I got was this:

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread jon . hartman
We've performed such an upgrade from 3A to 3BXL, to get around the 256k FIB table limitation. The real bust comes when you have to upgrade all of the DFC's with the PFC. If you don't, it'll run in the least common denominator. Jon Hartman Network Engineering

[c-nsp] C6k diag failure in lab, need to worry?

2008-04-09 Thread Peter Rathlev
'ello, We just had a funny experience with a C6k/720 in our lab. We were testing SXF13 AIS, and during a reload we saw the following: 00:01:36: %SCHED-SP-7-WATCH: Attempt to monitor uninitialized watched bitfield (address 0). -Process= Shutdown, ipl= 0, pid= 256 -Traceback= 402C3A18 404ED840

Re: [c-nsp] Identifying BGP route flapping

2008-04-09 Thread Mike Johnson
That will work for local BGP flaps, but if you are trying to monitor BGP flaps on the net this will not work. You could setup a router that has BGP dampening enabled, this will give you a look into flaps on the net. harbor235 ;} On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 11:48 AM, Adam Armstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [c-nsp] Identifying BGP route flapping

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Armstrong
Frank Bulk wrote: We had an incident a little over a week ago where our upstream provider (which managers our edge routers) told us that the BGP routes were flapping between our two edge routers. Is there a MIB that we can poll to monitor the number of changes in routing tables, or BGP

Re: [c-nsp] 6500 vs. 7600 revisited again

2008-04-09 Thread Justin Shore
Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: I've been watching all this conflict going on (and coming to the surface very often on this list) and i was wondering Based on what facts did cisco decide the seperation of the 6500/7600 platforms? I'm one of the few (would cisco do that if we were

Re: [c-nsp] C6k diag failure in lab, need to worry?

2008-04-09 Thread Sukumar Subburayan (sukumars)
Peter, You can ignore this one, as it should not have any impact, after the second reload. We have seen this very rarely (once in 100+ reboots, on very few systems), where an ASIC was not intialized properly, and diagnostics was catching the condition, and resetting the supervisor. sukumar

[c-nsp] CCNP bootcamp providers

2008-04-09 Thread Adam Korab
Hi folks, My employer is looking to send a few folks to CCNP bootcamp classroom instruction. Anybody got an institution they really recommend or dislike, and reasons thereto? It seems there are a whole pile of technical learning places with very little distinction between them. At $7-10k a

Re: [c-nsp] CCNP bootcamp providers

2008-04-09 Thread Jay Hennigan
Adam Korab wrote: Hi folks, My employer is looking to send a few folks to CCNP bootcamp classroom instruction. Anybody got an institution they really recommend or dislike, and reasons thereto? It seems there are a whole pile of technical learning places with very little distinction

Re: [c-nsp] C6k diag failure in lab, need to worry?

2008-04-09 Thread Peter Rathlev
Hi Sukumar, Thanks for the information, which makes me more calm. :-) Regards, Peter On Wed, 2008-04-09 at 10:16 -0700, Sukumar Subburayan (sukumars) wrote: Peter, You can ignore this one, as it should not have any impact, after the second reload. We have seen this very rarely (once in

[c-nsp] CBWFQ-LLQ on PPPoE Virtual Templates

2008-04-09 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
Hello, We have a 7206 running (C7200-IK9S-M), Version 12.3(20), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc2). We are trying to get LLQ implemented on Virtual Template interfaces for our PPPoE DSL users: vpdn-group akrnaa01rr description SBC Akron VPDN Group accept-dialin protocol l2tp virtual-template 1

Re: [c-nsp] Identifying BGP route flapping

2008-04-09 Thread Frank Bulk
We're not that desperate to monitor BGP flaps to install a router, and even, that's not a counter, is it? Sounds like there's no nice option to measure instability. Frank From: Mike Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:54 AM To: Adam Armstrong Cc:

Re: [c-nsp] CBWFQ-LLQ on PPPoE Virtual Templates

2008-04-09 Thread David Coulson
You can do: show run int virtual-access XXX It probably won't list it in there though. You can inject it into the interface via RADIUS using the Cisco-AVpair attribute Cisco-AVPair = lcp:interface-config#1=service-policy output llq-policy FYI, those users are technically PPPoVPDN - PPPoE and

Re: [c-nsp] Switch that can shape traffic per VLAN and re-writeVLANID?

2008-04-09 Thread Jeff Cartier
3750 Metro. This switch can preform vlan 'remapping' (cisco term.) on the enhanced services ports. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wed 4/9/2008 10:35 AM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] Switch that can shape traffic per

Re: [c-nsp] Identifying BGP route flapping

2008-04-09 Thread Clinton Work
I execute the follow a few times when I want to looking for flapping BGP routes. CPU intensive on the router, but its simple to implement. show ip route | inc 00:00 Mike Johnson wrote: That will work for local BGP flaps, but if you are trying to monitor BGP flaps on the net this will not

Re: [c-nsp] Identifying BGP route flapping

2008-04-09 Thread David Coulson
Maybe I missed something. Your upstream manages the routers, so can they not explain the route flaps? I would think the burden would be on them to demonstrate why your sessions reset? Was there an event which caused the flaps? Frank Bulk wrote: We're not that desperate to monitor BGP flaps to

[c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-09 Thread Kim Onnel
Hello, I cant seem to get myself to understand spanning tree, SVIs and all the sort by just reading, i dont have access to switches to get my hands to configure, any suggestions? Thanks, Kim ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net

Re: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

2008-04-09 Thread David Prall
Start playing with IRB -- http://dcp.dcptech.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kim Onnel Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 10:10 PM To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: [c-nsp] Learning L2 switching and spanning tree by doing

Re: [c-nsp] Ethernet Freezeup

2008-04-09 Thread Ed Ravin
On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 08:36:57PM +0200, Andre Beck wrote: Hi Jon, On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:35:36AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible that your interface is getting wedged? http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/hw/iad/ps397/products_tech_note09186a0 0800a7b85.shtml

Re: [c-nsp] Cisco PIX snmp filter

2008-04-09 Thread Ben Steele
On a PIX, no, version 7 snmp-map will let you filter with version only, you may be able to do what you are after on an ASA with an SSM- AIP module, but I haven't ever looked or tried. Ben On 09/04/2008, at 10:22 PM, Bagosi Rómeó wrote: Hello Experts! Can the Cisco PIX v6 or v7 filter