Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 04:02:04PM -0500, Alex Balashov wrote: > >(If you do this, ICMPs sourced by the remote router will send their > >packets with an RFC1918 source address, which is strictly not allowed. > >If you filter those packets, you'll break traceroute and PMTUd). > > I find that t

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 05:08:47PM -0600, Justin Shore wrote: > Gregory Boehnlein wrote: > >This is very similar to what we do. While we have several customers that > >need larger subnets, the majority of our customers are using IP Unnumbered. > > > >In some cases, we will provide the customer

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 04:32:03PM -0600, Justin Shore wrote: > Gert Doering wrote: > >I can only second this. If you have a dedicated point-to-point interface > >for things, tacking the route on the interface is usually more robust than > >pointing towards a gateway IP that might not be the

[c-nsp] Cisco AXSM

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Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread David Coulson
Justin Shore wrote: That's not a bad idea. Though wouldn't pointing a default at an interface force it to ARP constantly? Several hundred CEs ARPing non-stop could be a load issue on your PE. It's a serial interface. It doesn't ARP :-) ___ cisco-ns

Re: [c-nsp] IDS Recommendations - Cisco?

2009-02-06 Thread Paul Stewart
Thanks for the response... What we have today is ACL's on the 6500's and then iptables on the Linux boxes for example. This has worked fairly well and is basic to administer. My underlying goal is to have an inline IDS solution that will actively block (inline) on configured severe signatures - o

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
>> We send our default route out of the interface, rather than to the remote gateway IP, so if we change the >> ip of the loopback on our side, we do not need to adjust anything for the >> customer. > > That's not a bad idea. Though wouldn't pointing a default at an > interface force it to ARP co

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Justin Shore
Gregory Boehnlein wrote: This is very similar to what we do. While we have several customers that need larger subnets, the majority of our customers are using IP Unnumbered. In some cases, we will provide the customer a /29 if they need additional external IP addresses, but the configuration on

Re: [c-nsp] IDS Recommendations - Cisco?

2009-02-06 Thread Gregori Parker
I would highly recommend keeping some sort of firewall to ACL/NAT upstream from your hosts...I personally don't put a lot of stock into host-based firewalling as one's sole means of protection. If the FWSM didn't serve you well (all my problems with FWSM went away since 3.1.6), you could look into

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Justin Shore
Yes, we exclude .255 and .0 in all our DHCP pools. I make sure to not hand that out manually too. One good thing about IP unnumbered is that I have to point a static route for the customer's assigned IP at their interface. This lets me use uRPF again and eliminates the need for a customer in

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Justin Shore
Gert Doering wrote: I can only second this. If you have a dedicated point-to-point interface for things, tacking the route on the interface is usually more robust than pointing towards a gateway IP that might not be there, or might be learned recursively over another interface, etc. I'm going

[c-nsp] IDS Recommendations - Cisco?

2009-02-06 Thread Paul Stewart
Hi there... Our server farms hang off a pair of 6509's today. The SVI interfaces are redundant with HSRP for each VLAN that feeds the servers Sup2/MSFC2 running native IOS. So, we're looking for IDS/firewall solutions to protect a few of the VLAN's in particular. We did have a pair of FWSM'

Re: [c-nsp] learned routes disappear

2009-02-06 Thread harbor235
Most likely the 5 routes are not reachable. If you just added the routes via a supernet advertisement and they do not exist elsewhere, either locally connected or learned via an IGP this behavior will happen. This is normal and the correct way for BGP to operate. mike On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 12:4

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Alex Balashov
Alex Balashov wrote: Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:48:35PM -0500, Alex Balashov wrote: There is no reason why you need to "waste" IP address on the /30s - who said they have to be public IPs? Just carve out some address space out of a 10.0.0.0/8 range and use private tra

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Alex Balashov
Gert Doering wrote: Hi, On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:48:35PM -0500, Alex Balashov wrote: There is no reason why you need to "waste" IP address on the /30s - who said they have to be public IPs? Just carve out some address space out of a 10.0.0.0/8 range and use private transport IPs. RFC191

Re: [c-nsp] learned routes disappear

2009-02-06 Thread Michael K. Smith - Adhost
Hello Paul: > > Paul A wrote: > > Hi, I'm having a bgp issue I can't figure out and hoping someone has ran > > into this. > > > > > > > > I have two routers, router A and router B doing bgp. > > > > > > > > Router A is advertising 5 routes to router B, when the session 1st comes > up, > > router

Re: [c-nsp] How to add new rule in the same access-list

2009-02-06 Thread TJ
>> You can add lines if you use sequence numbers on you acl. What version >> are you using >> >> I have old rule in the switch but don't know how to add new rule in the same access-list When I add new deny rule, it will be put at the end of the access-list If I re

[c-nsp] Need help adding a device to an existing vlan

2009-02-06 Thread Steven Pfister
I'm sure this is something simple, but I'm not quite seeing it... I need some help adding a device to an existing, recently created vlan. Here is the fragment of our network: [core 4507] -> [8540] -> [3550] -> [1230 WAP] [configuration excerpts are below] The 1230 access point described is at

Re: [c-nsp] learned routes disappear

2009-02-06 Thread Walter Keen
I would turn on debugging and see if 1:15m corresponds to one of the BGP nexthop scanning or other events. Don't leave debugging on any longer than needed on production systems. If you can replicate in a lab scenario, that would be ideal. One thing that looks odd, is that you have 2 different up

Re: [c-nsp] VACL capture - is this supposed to work

2009-02-06 Thread Ramcharan, Vijay A
Phil I have a similar config on a few 6500 switches running SXF10 and it appears to be doing its job. My config is quite similar to yours sans MPLS. These same switches also do local SPAN to a couple of 10G ports. C6506E with Sup720-3BXL running 12.2(18)SXF10 vlan access-map VLAN110-MAP 10 matc

Re: [c-nsp] learned routes disappear

2009-02-06 Thread Paul A
Thanks Walter. I really didn't want to mess with debug as it's a production router and I would have to do this late night, hopefully without crashing it. I really was hoping someone ran into this issue before. FYI the 1st update-source is from router A to my bgp customer on fa1/43 the other is fr

[c-nsp] learned routes disappear

2009-02-06 Thread Paul A
Hi, I'm having a bgp issue I can't figure out and hoping someone has ran into this. I have two routers, router A and router B doing bgp. Router A is advertising 5 routes to router B, when the session 1st comes up, router B has 5 routes received from router A. After 1:15 min the learned rout

[c-nsp] DHCP Binding Expiration

2009-02-06 Thread Manaf Al Oqlah
Hi all, I am configuring a Cisco 7600 router as DHCP server for my broadband clients. I am using DHCP snooping and ARP inspection for security reasons and the leased time expiration is set for 30 minutes and no excluded-address is configured. The problem is that I still can see some clients IP

[c-nsp] Urgently looking for a C2811/2821 to rent or buy _today_ in Washington DC area

2009-02-06 Thread Enno Rey
Hi, I have to give a talk tomorrow that includes a demo/lab with some MPLS VPN stuff. I brought a 3750-Metro and a 3560 with me (both running latest code) but just noticed the 3560s do not support MPLS VPNs at all. So I'm urgently looking for some MPLS VPN capable device (acting as PE), prefer

Re: [c-nsp] Multihomed BGP load balancing

2009-02-06 Thread Stephen Kratzer
On Friday 06 February 2009 07:53:26 RAZAFINDRATSIFA Rivo Tahina wrote: > Dear All, > > I'm multihomed to 2 upstreams, from time to time, 1 link is full > while the other has half of its capacity unused, as of now, I have to > manual announce of /24 to try to balance traffics, are there more > intel

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 vrf unwanted leaking when using tracked static route

2009-02-06 Thread jcovini
I would love you to be right, but it is indeed tracking inside the right vrf I am changing the @IP in the paste below voluntarily (public ips...) I have pretty similar config running on 6509 12.2.33sxh without this behavior. The only difference is my 6509 use newer style config (ip sla monitor foo

Re: [c-nsp] Multihomed BGP load balancing

2009-02-06 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Someone would say use PfR, but i'm not this one ;) Great potential, awkward configuration. -- Tassos RAZAFINDRATSIFA Rivo Tahina wrote on 06/02/2009 14:53: Dear All, I'm multihomed to 2 upstreams, from time to time, 1 link is full while the other has half of its capacity unused, as of now, I

Re: [c-nsp] Multihomed BGP load balancing

2009-02-06 Thread Mateusz Blaszczyk
I'm multihomed to 2 upstreams, from time to time, 1 link is full while the other has half of its capacity unused, as of now, I have to manual announce of /24 to try to balance traffics, are there more intelligent way to do that? depending on which direction it gets full you can use dmz-bandwid

[c-nsp] Multihomed BGP load balancing

2009-02-06 Thread RAZAFINDRATSIFA Rivo Tahina
Dear All, I'm multihomed to 2 upstreams, from time to time, 1 link is full while the other has half of its capacity unused, as of now, I have to manual announce of /24 to try to balance traffics, are there more intelligent way to do that? Regards.

[c-nsp] Desktop PoE switch for CME

2009-02-06 Thread Peter Hicks
Hello I have a requirement for a number of low-cost 8 or 24-port PoE switches on which Cisco 7940 and 7941 IP phones will work successfully. Ideally they need to support a few VLANs and dot1q, and don't *have* to be Cisco. Does anyone have recommendations, to save me spending ages buying and

Re: [c-nsp] hssi transmit only

2009-02-06 Thread RAZAFINDRATSIFA Rivo Tahina
Thanks Arie, It was a clock issue on modem. Regards. At 21:37 22/01/2009, Arie Vayner (avayner) wrote: No. A regular cable should be fine. Arie -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of RAZAFINDRATSIFA Rivo Tahin

Re: [c-nsp] Rancid and commercial config management tools

2009-02-06 Thread Paul Stewart
Yes, we use Orion Network Configuration Management (old Cirrus) and love it! The last release finally has a fairly slick web interface... Paul -Original Message- From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Eric Van Tol Sent: February 6,

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 vrf unwanted leaking when using tracked static route

2009-02-06 Thread Wouter Prins
Okay then i guess it happens because you didnt specify the vrf in your sla configuration. ip sla monitor 1 type xx vrf x I dont know if the 3560 can do that (my guess is no) :) Can you post your sla config? 2009/2/6 > Just tried : it still installs the route with "global" flag > ip route vr

Re: [c-nsp] Rancid and commercial config management tools

2009-02-06 Thread Eric Van Tol
> -Original Message- > From: cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp- > boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Joe Loiacono > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:57 PM > To: Cisco-NSP Mailing List > Subject: [c-nsp] Rancid and commercial config management tools > > I realize RAN

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 vrf unwanted leaking when using tracked static route

2009-02-06 Thread jcovini
Just tried : it still installs the route with "global" flag ip route vrf Internet 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 Vlan999 9.9.9.9 global track 2 Selon Wouter Prins : > Can you try to specify the outgoing interface in your static vrf route and > test again? > > 2009/2/6 > > > Hey, > > > > Got a stran

Re: [c-nsp] 3560 vrf unwanted leaking when using tracked static route

2009-02-06 Thread Wouter Prins
Can you try to specify the outgoing interface in your static vrf route and test again? 2009/2/6 > Hey, > > Got a strange behavior on a C3560 12.2(35)SE5. > > I am locally attached interface to 9.9.9.0/24 network where my next hop > 9.9.9.9 > is. This interface is member of vrf Internet > > I hav

[c-nsp] 3560 vrf unwanted leaking when using tracked static route

2009-02-06 Thread jcovini
Hey, Got a strange behavior on a C3560 12.2(35)SE5. I am locally attached interface to 9.9.9.0/24 network where my next hop 9.9.9.9 is. This interface is member of vrf Internet I have a vrf static route, working perfect : ip route vrf Internet 192.168.0.0 255.255.255.0 9.9.9.9 As soon as I rem

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Benny Amorsen
Alex Balashov writes: > There is no reason why you need to "waste" IP address on the /30s - > who said they have to be public IPs? Just carve out some address > space out of a 10.0.0.0/8 range and use private transport IPs. You risk that ICMP comes from those addresses. This could happen with t

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Mateusz Blaszczyk
Justin, just be sure not to assign .255 address to the customer, windows is buggy there: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/281579 We've been bitten there. Best Regards, -mat -- pgp-key 0x1C655CAB ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net htt

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Fri, Feb 06, 2009 at 10:48:10AM +0100, Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer) wrote: > this name stays local to the router, and was/is required for Large-Scale > Dial-out (LSDO) where the router performed an AAA/Radius request to > retrieve dial information, and used the name for this.. Ah, so you put

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Oliver Boehmer (oboehmer)
Gert Doering <> wrote on Friday, February 06, 2009 10:39: >> ip route X.X.X.X 255.255.255.248 Serial10/1/0/3:0 name CustomerRouteA > > One can tack a *name* to routes? Need to test this :-) > > Does this name get carried in IGPs? Or is it just there in the config > to document things? this na

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:48:35PM -0500, Alex Balashov wrote: > There is no reason why you need to "waste" IP address on the /30s - who > said they have to be public IPs? Just carve out some address space out > of a 10.0.0.0/8 range and use private transport IPs. RFC1918 (indirectly) sa

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:09:43PM -0500, Gregory Boehnlein wrote: > We send our default route out of the > interface, rather than to the remote gateway IP, so if we change the ip of > the loopback on our side, we do not need to adjust anything for the > customer. I can only second this. If

Re: [c-nsp] DS1 provisioning using IP Unnumbered vs /30s

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 06:01:09PM -0600, Justin Shore wrote: > I'm curious to see what everyone's take is on handling the addressing of > customer-facing DS1s. We run all our customers "ip unnumbered", whether it's E1/E3 or DSL customers. Since the first 64 kbit ISDN leased line... Exce

Re: [c-nsp] Can someone look up which AS is advertising the 146.105.0.0 /16 network.

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 04:50:47PM +, Gary Roberton wrote: > Can someone look up which AS is advertising the 146.105.0.0 /16 network for > me, thanks. Try: "telnet route-views.oregon-ix.net" and then "show ip bgp ..." route-views.oregon-ix.net>sh ip b 146.105.0.0 BGP routing table entry

Re: [c-nsp] access list help

2009-02-06 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Thu, Feb 05, 2009 at 08:49:58AM -0800, Jay Hennigan wrote: > You don't. You do it in the router. A layer 2 switch is unaware of IP > addresses or applications with regard to traffic passing through the > switch. Because the switch doesn't examine or process IP address, > protocol, or

Re: [c-nsp] How to add new rule in the same access-list

2009-02-06 Thread A . L . M . Buxey
Hi, > Like I said, if he doesn't have sequences (which based on the > information given in the original question I can only assume he doesn't > have an IOS that supports it on old-skool access lists). edit the access list on an tftp server and then eg copy tftp://server/accesslist-name.acl runni

[c-nsp] VACL capture - is this supposed to work

2009-02-06 Thread Phil Mayers
We have this config on a 6500/sup720 int Vlan3799 description upstream ip address ... int Vlan4000 descripion core ip address ... mpls ip vlan filter CAPTURE_HTTP vlan 3799 int Gi9/1 switchport switchport mode access switchport access vlan 3799 switchport capture switchport capture al

Re: [c-nsp] many interfaces in router, how to easy use the access-list rules

2009-02-06 Thread Pelle
Hi. > What is the easy way to put access-list for permit and deny to access http > in the router? If you want an *easy* way, you can protect the http process with a ACL: ip http access-class See: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/netmgmt/command/reference/nm_08.html#wp1020105 This not as "