>> Did they ever think about the
>> day the 4294967296 ip addresses won't be enough for the world?
>
> No. Recall that IP got started in the days that you had a bunch
> of dumb terminals connected to a mainframe. The mainframe was
> supposed to be networked via IP.
Actually, it's all Vint Cerf
> Yes, the RIR's know this. Last I read it's about equivalent to
> a 3-4 /8's. That's a lot of IP addresses, but the RIR's are gulping
> them down at around 2 /8's a year I think.
It's more like 10 /8's per year. In 2007, it was 12. There's
currently about 40 /8's left in IANA's free pool.
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> To: Ziv Leyes
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> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?
> -Original Message-
> From: Dale W. Carder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 4:56 AM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: Gert Doering; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
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>
&g
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> To: Whisper
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> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?
>
> -Original Message-
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>
> When d
It would be interesting to hear from this community what you think
about:
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-farinacci-lisp-06.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-fuller-lisp-alt-00.txt
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lewis-lisp-interworking-00.txt
Than
Hi,
On Wed, Apr 02, 2008 at 04:29:13PM +0300, Ziv Leyes wrote:
> I want to set an appointment with you in, let's say 10 years from today and
> we can talk it over again?
> Do you know how many of the IPv4 "allocated" addresses aren't actually in use
> and are only held at the LIRs and RIRs IP "s
day, April 02, 2008 4:21 PM
To: Ziv Leyes
Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?
Nah
They really over-engineered the IPv6 address space
Its something like only 25% of the IPv6 address space gives you 100 IPv6
addresses per nanometer of
...
>
>
> Ziv
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
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Ziv
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Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 3:56 PM
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Cc: Gert Doering; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"
On Apr 2, 2008, at 3:40 AM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> If every end user on the Internet could get a /48 directly from
> an RIR the global BGP table would melt any router designed into slag.
It is well understood now that IPv6 really has nothing to do
with solving DFZ table bloat.
> And with IPv6
> -Original Message-
> From: Gert Doering [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 10:41 PM
> To: Ted Mittelstaedt
> Cc: Mohacsi Janos; Carlos Friacas; Church, Charles;
> cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it
On 02/04/2008, at 12:53 AM, Whisper wrote:
> The interesting thing in the client space, other than your Cisco
> ISR's I
> don't think there are any retail modems that do IPv6. Yay Cisco.
http://www.billion.com/product/adsl/bipac7402r2.php
Thats one, though its probably worth paying attention
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:14:58PM -0800, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> The reason is that the Internet
> community is unwilling to allow the RIR's to ever engage in
> portable micro-allocations - you will likely never be able to
> obtain IPv6 directly from a RIR,
Please stop spreading FUD like
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mohacsi Janos
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 8:11 PM
> To: Carlos Friacas
> Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net; Church, Charles
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it
dual-stack schemes seem to be getting much traction.
>>
>> Chuck
>>
>> - Original Message -
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net
>> Sent: Tue Apr 01 10:39:17 2008
>> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Sridhar Ayengar wrote:
> Whisper wrote:
>> Got to love Microsoft, XP has a Windows IPv6 stack that doesn't do native
>> IPv6 DNS lookups.
May be worth asking Microsoft to fix this in Windows XP SP3?
Best Regards,
Janos
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t: Tue Apr 01 10:39:17 2008
> Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?
>
>
> The Mayas made some paintings and predictions that on 2012-12-21 the
> world will end. They also painted something like a net that spans around
> the globe. Since I heard
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Sent: Tue Apr 01 10:39:17 2008
Subject: Re: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?
The Mayas made some paintings and predictions that on 2012-12-21 the
world will end. They also painted something like a net that spans around
the globe. Since I
> My suggestion would be to leave IPv4 for all the "core" services,
> routers, maybe even servers, ... and move all cable/DSL users,
> web-enabled cell phones, PDAs, UMTS cards, (all those not so vital
> devices) to IPv6.
Wouldn't this type of deployment tactic ensure that we would require
Mohacsi Janos wrote:
>> Whisper wrote:
>>> Got to love Microsoft, XP has a Windows IPv6 stack that doesn't do
>>> native
>>> IPv6 DNS lookups.
>
> May be worth asking Microsoft to fix this in Windows XP SP3?
Isn't SP3 too close to release for that? It's not like they couldn't
release any old T
The Mayas made some paintings and predictions that on 2012-12-21 the
world will end. They also painted something like a net that spans around
the globe. Since I heard that, I suppose that I know the exact date when
we'll all switch to IPv6 ;-)
My suggestion would be to leave IPv4 for all the "c
On Wed, 2 Apr 2008, Whisper wrote:
> Its quite possibly the the Y2K that we had to have. :)
Not really. The problem with Y2K was the danger of working
systems stop working/behaving as expected.
The problem with IPv4/IPv6 is about growth. When IPv4 blocks reach the
exhaustion point, the public
Whisper wrote:
> Got to love Microsoft, XP has a Windows IPv6 stack that doesn't do native
> IPv6 DNS lookups.
Bleh!!
Peace... Sridhar
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Patrick J Greene wrote:
> I keep seeing all of these articles about IPv6 being put off until the last
> minute and then we will all have to scramble to put it
> in(http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/033108-ntt-anerica-ipv6.html) .
> What are your thoughts and plans? Is anybody really runnin
Hi,
On Tue, Apr 01, 2008 at 09:27:01AM -0400, Patrick J Greene wrote:
> I keep seeing all of these articles about IPv6 being put off until
> the last minute and then we will all have to scramble to put it in
> (http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/033108-ntt-anerica-ipv6.html) .
Doing that i
On Tue, 1 Apr 2008, Patrick J Greene wrote:
> I keep seeing all of these articles about IPv6 being put off until
>the last minute and then we will all have to scramble to put it
>in(http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/033108-ntt-anerica-ipv6.html) .
>What are your thoughts and plans?
We are d
Its quite possibly the the Y2K that we had to have. :)
Maybe the US DoD and the US government in general will hand back all their
IPv4 address blocks when they supposedly cut over to IPv6, who knows?
Jeff Doyle has being going on about it for ages on his Network World
CiscoSubnet blog http://www.
esday, April 01, 2008 9:27 AM
To: cisco-nsp
Subject: [c-nsp] OT : IPv6 - Will it hit like an "avalanch"?
I keep seeing all of these articles about IPv6 being put off until the last
minute and then we will all have to scramble to put it
in(http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/033108-ntt-aner
I keep seeing all of these articles about IPv6 being put off until the last
minute and then we will all have to scramble to put it
in(http://www.networkworld.com/news/2008/033108-ntt-anerica-ipv6.html) . What
are your thoughts and plans? Is anybody really running out of IP space, other
that A
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