Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-10 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 09:16:27AM -0400, Jared Mauch wrote: I think it's important to note that there are similar limiters in other devices, eg: Juniper m20/m40 that we've encountered over the years. This has caused customer confusion as they hit these, even in a fully distributed

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-10 Thread Ɓukasz Bromirski
On 2009-10-10 13:35, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Some days I would pay good money for a traceroute handling ASIC, or at least some primitives for it in some microcode somewhere, so it isn't at the mercy of BGP scanner, someone running a complex sh ip bgp on the cli, or any random kid capable

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-09 Thread Drew Weaver
: Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17 But traceroute's one of the killer apps for Sup720's regardless if used in 6500 or 7600. Dependent on the traffic you pass through there might be lots of 'TTL expired' (nearly fully originating from running traceroutes, else I'd suspect you've another more

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-09 Thread Jared Mauch
I think it's important to note that there are similar limiters in other devices, eg: Juniper m20/m40 that we've encountered over the years. This has caused customer confusion as they hit these, even in a fully distributed linecard environment. The reality is unless it's done in a

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-09 Thread Phil Mayers
Jared Mauch wrote: I think it's important to note that there are similar limiters in other devices, eg: Juniper m20/m40 that we've encountered over the years. This has caused customer confusion as they hit these, even in a fully distributed linecard environment. The reality is unless

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-09 Thread Marcus.Gerdon
...@puck.nether.net] Gesendet: Freitag, 9. Oktober 2009 15:16 An: Drew Weaver Cc: Marcus.Gerdon; Bob Snyder; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Betreff: Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17 I think it's important to note that there are similar limiters in other devices, eg: Juniper m20/m40 that we've

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-09 Thread Bob Snyder
On Oct 8, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Marcus.Gerdon wrote: The ever more widespread abuse of traceroute (before someone starts arguing: yes, I call permanent use of mtr and alike for end-user pseudo-monitoring 'network abuse') is something you'll be forced into limiting to protect your network at

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-09 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 03:10:58PM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote: But I agree, we set 100/10 for RPF/TTL/UNREACH-no-route/MTU failure, and I'm glad of it, because it's saved us from a couple of nasties. How are folks arriving at the 100/10 setting? Our boxes are using 500/100, but hell if I

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-09 Thread Tony Varriale
, 2009 10:04 AM Subject: Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17 On Oct 8, 2009, at 5:32 AM, Marcus.Gerdon wrote: The ever more widespread abuse of traceroute (before someone starts arguing: yes, I call permanent use of mtr and alike for end-user pseudo-monitoring 'network abuse') is something

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-09 Thread Phil Mayers
Ross Vandegrift wrote: On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 03:10:58PM +0100, Phil Mayers wrote: But I agree, we set 100/10 for RPF/TTL/UNREACH-no-route/MTU failure, and I'm glad of it, because it's saved us from a couple of nasties. How are folks arriving at the 100/10 setting? Our boxes are using

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-08 Thread Marcus.Gerdon
...@puck.nether.net [mailto:cisco-nsp-boun...@puck.nether.net] Im Auftrag von Bob Snyder Gesendet: Mittwoch, 7. Oktober 2009 21:19 An: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Betreff: Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17 On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: mls rate-limit

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-07 Thread Bob Snyder
On Mon, Oct 5, 2009 at 5:43 AM, Phil Mayers p.may...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: mls rate-limit all ttl-failure 100 10 mls rate-limit all mtu-failure 100 10 There's no reason not to have the TTL failure rate limit enabled AFAIK. Choose a value appropriate to you, obviously. One gotcha here is

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-05 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi, But yes, splurging a 30gig hard-disk image out over multicast with TTL=1 on the packets will definitely cause TTL-exceeded problems ;o) bonus points++ for the application using a global multicast address too. nice. alan ___ cisco-nsp mailing

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-05 Thread Alan Buxey
Hi, Not to fault Cisco, or anyone else for that matter but shouldn't switches that cost a quarter of a million dollars be able to protect themselves from these sorts of things just as a default? turn off multicast for that VLAN - its its TTL=1 then it didnt really want to multicast anyway -

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-05 Thread Phil Mayers
Alan Buxey wrote: Hi, Not to fault Cisco, or anyone else for that matter but shouldn't switches that cost a quarter of a million dollars be able to protect themselves from these sorts of things just as a default? turn off multicast for that VLAN - its its TTL=1 then it didnt really want to

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-03 Thread Phil Mayers
Drew Weaver wrote: That whole TTL exceeded thing is a real problem these days, huh? When you have an application as badly-written as ghost (seriously: it's awful, awful, awful stuff) then it could probably find a way to break the network regardless. But yes, splurging a 30gig hard-disk

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-03 Thread ML
Andy Saykao wrote: We went to 12.2(18)SXF16 and got burnt by a nat bug (BUG id CSCed60335) that caused our router to continually reboot. Had to down grade back to 12.2(18)SXF11. Not sure if the nat bug has been fixed in 12.2(18)SXF17 yet. Cheers. Andy This email and any files transmitted

[c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-02 Thread Drew Weaver
Anyone deployed this monster yet? Have any wacky issues that were unexpected? -Drew ___ cisco-nsp mailing list cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net https://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/cisco-nsp archive at http://puck.nether.net/pipermail/cisco-nsp/

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-02 Thread Ge Moua
not a on Sup720 but deployed this with a Sup32 recently; still working with Cisco TAC on Norton Ghost muliticast causing OSPF to reset. Regards, Ge Moua | Email: moua0...@umn.edu Network Design Engineer University of Minnesota | Networking Telecommunications Services Drew Weaver wrote:

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-02 Thread Drew Weaver
That doesn't sound so friendly =) -Original Message- From: Ge Moua [mailto:moua0...@umn.edu] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:18 AM To: Drew Weaver Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17 not a on Sup720 but deployed this with a Sup32 recently; still

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-02 Thread Rodney Dunn
, 2009 11:18 AM To: Drew Weaver Cc: cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17 not a on Sup720 but deployed this with a Sup32 recently; still working with Cisco TAC on Norton Ghost muliticast causing OSPF to reset. Regards, Ge Moua | Email: moua0...@umn.edu Network Design

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-02 Thread Drew Weaver
That whole TTL exceeded thing is a real problem these days, huh? -Original Message- From: Rodney Dunn [mailto:rod...@cisco.com] Sent: Friday, October 02, 2009 11:48 AM To: Drew Weaver Cc: 'moua0...@umn.edu'; cisco-nsp@puck.nether.net Subject: Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17 It's

Re: [c-nsp] SUP720 - 12.2(18)SXF17

2009-10-02 Thread Andy Saykao
We went to 12.2(18)SXF16 and got burnt by a nat bug (BUG id CSCed60335) that caused our router to continually reboot. Had to down grade back to 12.2(18)SXF11. Not sure if the nat bug has been fixed in 12.2(18)SXF17 yet. Cheers. Andy This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential