Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-10-01 Thread Brian Morrison
On Tue, 25 Sep 2012 11:17:56 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood wrote: In a 'PS' footnote in my original post I merely asked another poster to be considerate to me, and not to include my email address in the body of his message. I've now changed my reply template to accommodate you, I will add that I

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-25 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Al Varnell wrote: ... my understanding of what he's asking now is that the list server remove any addresses that their client includes. For the sake of clarity, I did not ask that. I also did not ask for policy changes at Sourcefire, nor did I ask anyone to

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-25 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 25, 2012, at 6:17 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2012, Al Varnell wrote: ... my understanding of what he's asking now is that the list server remove any addresses that their client includes. For the sake of clarity, I did not ask that. I also did not ask for policy changes

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: Maybe you are talking about something I'm not aware of. This is standard mailing list etiquette going back, I guess, almost a couple of decades and I'm both surprised and disappointed to have to go over it here. But by the pure fact that you

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread G.W. Haywood
B0;261;0cHi there, On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: My point being that we have a bug open on it, we're working on it, so continuing trying to argue the point is pointless. ... Ah, yes, I think we are at crossed purposes here. I'm not trying to convince you to act on the enhancement

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 24, 2012, at 7:23 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: Maybe you are talking about something I'm not aware of. This is standard mailing list etiquette going back, I guess, almost a couple of decades and I'm both surprised and disappointed to

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread Al Varnell
On 9/24/12 8:41 AM, Joel Esler wrote: On Sep 24, 2012, at 7:23 AM, G.W. Haywood wrote: Hi there, On Mon, 24 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: Maybe you are talking about something I'm not aware of. This is standard mailing list etiquette going back, I guess, almost a couple of decades

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-24 Thread Chuck Swiger
Hi-- On Sep 24, 2012, at 10:28 AM, Al Varnell wrote: [ ... ] I agree that trying to force people to do so would be a loosing battle and not worth the effort. I subscribe to many lists and must say that this is the first time I've read such a request. But my understanding of what he's asking

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-23 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hello again, On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Brian Morrison wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood wrote: PS Please don't mail somebody's email address to the whole world. It's in the list headers, it's already been made public... Flame wars aren't going to get us anywhere. I

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-23 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 23, 2012, at 6:47 AM, G.W. Haywood g...@jubileegroup.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 23 Sep 2012, Brian Morrison wrote: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood wrote: PS Please don't mail somebody's email address to the whole world. It's in the list headers, it's already been

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-23 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 22, 2012, at 9:50 AM, G.W. Haywood g...@jubileegroup.co.uk wrote: Mr. Esler's assertion that this is a pedantic argument, given his position, bothers me a little. My point being that we have a bug open on it, we're working on it, so continuing trying to argue the point is pointless.

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
Joel Esler skrev den 23-09-2012 17:59: So maybe we are confused about what you are talking about, or perhaps you are. is default reply template in Apple Mail to blame ? just becurse its common it not the same as its common good idear dont post my email with Apple Mail respect that i dont do

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-22 Thread Brian Morrison
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood somebl...@somewhere.or.other wrote: PS Please don't mail somebody's email address to the whole world. It's in the list headers, it's already been made public on the list and in the archives. -- Brian Morrison I am not

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
Brian Morrison skrev den 2012-09-22 16:52: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 14:50:10 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood somebl...@somewhere.or.other wrote: PS Please don't mail somebody's email address to the whole world. It's in the list headers, it's already been made public on the list and in the archives.

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-22 Thread Brian Morrison
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 17:02:40 +0200 Benny Pedersen x wrote: if you post your own i will reply with it non hidded Be my guest, my email address has been public for many years without problems. -- Brian Morrison I am not young enough to know everything

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV® : ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread Al Varnell
On 9/20/12 9:12 AM, Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com wrote: On 9/18/2012 6:24 PM, Joel Esler wrote: http://blog.clamav.net/2012/09/clamav-stats-we-need-more-of-them-we.html ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help We've been working pretty hard behind the scenes over here on

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Fri, 21 Sep 2012, Benny Pedersen wrote: Den 2012-09-20 12:42, G.W. Haywood skrev: option which disables the bytecode interpreter. ... it can be disabled in freshclam.conf No, that disables loading bytecode. The interpreter is still there. so this is a problem ? Yes.

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread Brian Morrison
On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:31:59 +0100 (BST) G.W. Haywood g...@jubileegroup.co.uk wrote: If a compiler is not there it is *impossible* for it to do anything, and that statement does not rely on your opinion. It isn't Ken Thompson's opinion, it isn't necessary for a compiler to exist for malicious

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV® : ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 9/21/2012 4:35 AM, Al Varnell wrote: On 9/20/12 9:12 AM, Bowie Bailey bowie_bai...@buc.com wrote: On 9/18/2012 6:24 PM, Joel Esler wrote: http://blog.clamav.net/2012/09/clamav-stats-we-need-more-of-them-we.html ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help We've been working

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV® : ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread Bowie Bailey
Now that I have the submission working, I took a look at the personal stats page (www.stats.clamav.net). I see a graph of some data here, but I'm not sure how to read it. There is a bar chart with four bars. The numbers on the bars are 5, 1, 4, 2. When I hover over the bars, I get 19, 21,

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-21 Thread Joel Esler
As pedantic as this argument is, I understand both sides of the argument. We have a bug in the system now, and we'll start triaging what it would take to make that happen. Thanks. On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 6:39 AM, Brian Morrison b...@fenrir.org.uk wrote: On Fri, 21 Sep 2012 11:31:59 +0100

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-20 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:21 AM, G.W. Haywood g...@jubileegroup.co.uk wrote: On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: ... I'm unhappy with the bytecode interpreter ... Okay, have you opened a feature request bug in our bugzilla tracking system so

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-20 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Thu, 20 Sep 2012, Benny Pedersen wrote: Den 2012-09-19 13:21, G.W. Haywood skrev: option which disables the bytecode interpreter. ... it can be disabled in freshclam.conf No, that disables loading bytecode. The interpreter is still there. -- 73, Ged.

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-20 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-09-20 12:42, G.W. Haywood skrev: option which disables the bytecode interpreter. ... it can be disabled in freshclam.conf No, that disables loading bytecode. The interpreter is still there. so this is a problem ? without signatures it does nothing imho

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV®: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-20 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 9/18/2012 6:24 PM, Joel Esler wrote: http://blog.clamav.net/2012/09/clamav-stats-we-need-more-of-them-we.html ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help We've been working pretty hard behind the scenes over here on ClamAV, its backend infrastructure, and moving the codebase as

[clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-19 Thread G.W. Haywood
Hi there, On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: In order for us to get some accurate statistics about what you all are seeing out there, in the field, we need as many people as possible to opt-in to some statistics gathering features that we have built into the code base. I'd be happy to

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
Den 2012-09-19 13:21, G.W. Haywood skrev: I'd be happy to get up to date and let you have some *interesting* statistics if you could just see your way to including a compile-time option which disables the bytecode interpreter. Mr. Skoll and I asked about this over two years ago: it can be

Re: [clamav-users] ClamAV?: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-19 Thread Joel Esler
On Sep 19, 2012, at 7:21 AM, G.W. Haywood g...@jubileegroup.co.uk wrote: Hi there, On Wed, 19 Sep 2012, Joel Esler wrote: In order for us to get some accurate statistics about what you all are seeing out there, in the field, we need as many people as possible to opt-in to some statistics

[clamav-users] ClamAV®: ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help

2012-09-18 Thread Joel Esler
http://blog.clamav.net/2012/09/clamav-stats-we-need-more-of-them-we.html ClamAV Stats, we need more of them, we need your help We've been working pretty hard behind the scenes over here on ClamAV, its backend infrastructure, and moving the codebase as well as its detection up the ladder. In