RE: volunteering for AWT

1999-02-17 Thread Daniel Rall
> www.gjt.org > CVS dir > java/org/gjt/shark I'll check it out, I'm there too. Isn't everything on GJT LGPLed? > Actually it turns out you can have several levels of abstractionI have > drivers directly on top of the hardware and yes the driver is > non-portable Very nice. I figured (hoped) i

Java/C

1999-02-17 Thread Daniel Rall
This is for whoever was asking about a Java/C gadget. I don't know if it is exactly what you need, but here it is. http://www.irisa.fr/compose/harissa/ Daniel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

J/C

1999-02-17 Thread Daniel Rall
There is also a program at www.alphaworks.ibm.com that--supposedly--converts Java to C++. Daniel ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Artur Biesiadowski
Do downloading JDK source code (it seems to be ow available without all these complicated paperwork) will taint me as far as classpath is concerned ? I do understand that I should not look at sun's classes while writing for classpath, but they are available anyway in std distribution - question i

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Stuart Ballard
Artur Biesiadowski wrote: > > Do downloading JDK source code (it seems to be ow available without all > these complicated paperwork) will taint me as far as classpath is > concerned ? IANAL, and I haven't read the license. However, personally I'll be avoiding it like the plague. My *guess* (and

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Alex Nicolaou
Artur Biesiadowski wrote: > And second question - can somebody summarize the license for me -for me > it is lawyers garbage. This is my interpretation of the license as nearly as I understand it, without legal background or background in the laws of california nor any laws of the united states.

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Paul Fisher
This reply is written from a cursory scan of the ``Community Source License'' for the JDK version 2. This reply certainly doesn't cover all the reasons why the new JDK is not free software, such as restrictions regarding naming of packages, but it does cover the most prominent issue -- royalties.

RE: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread D'Arcy Smith
> > And they really can't make it GPL now, after lots of companies have > > forked over lots of cash to get in on the Java thing. > Sun owns the copyright to the JDK. They can release it under any > terms that they so desire, including the GPL. In the case of Jini at least (I don't know the spe

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Wes Biggs
> In the case of Jini at least (I don't know the specifics of the > JDK) the royalty is something like $0.10. So if you sell > 100 copies of your software Sun makes $1. Are you using Microsoft Calculator again? :-)

RE: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread D'Arcy Smith
Oppps... $10. Whats that Don Henley song... "Johny Can't Read"... :-) ..darcy -- D'Arcy Smith Sr. Software Engineer Symantec Corp., Internet Tools Division > -Original Message- > From: Wes Biggs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 1999 5:24 PM > To: D'Arcy Smith

RE: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Moses DeJong
On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, D'Arcy Smith wrote: > > > And they really can't make it GPL now, after lots of companies have > > > forked over lots of cash to get in on the Java thing. > > > Sun owns the copyright to the JDK. They can release it under any > > terms that they so desire, including the GPL.

RE: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread D'Arcy Smith
> -Original Message- > On Wed, 17 Feb 1999, D'Arcy Smith wrote: > > > > And they really can't make it GPL now, after lots of companies have > > > > forked over lots of cash to get in on the Java thing. > > > Sun owns the copyright to the JDK. They can release it under any > > > terms t

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Michael Emmel
> Ah... just being safe. There is nothing in the license agreement > that I can see that stops someone who signed it from doing a > clean room implementation as long as the Sun source is not > referenced. Correct? > > ..darcy > I recently posted a suggestion to javalobby that Sun make periodice

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Alex Nicolaou
Paul Fisher wrote: I'm sorry, I just can't help responding. But let's not turn this into a huge runaway thread - the mailing list is, after all, about Classpath, not about the JDK. > You are under no obligation to assign copyright to the FSF for > modifications to Classpath. We only require ass

Re: JDK source code

1999-02-17 Thread Aaron M. Renn
>Do downloading JDK source code (it seems to be ow available without all >these complicated paperwork) will taint me as far as classpath is >concerned ? The source bundled distributed with the JDK is ok to download. I'm not familiar with the new source pacakge or its license. However, looking a