Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-19 Thread Christian Thalinger
On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 18:23 +, theUser BL wrote: > But thanks for the information. > I will later try to use 0.17 with cacao, if that is possible. That should work great. TWISTI ___ Classpath mailing list Classpath@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/ma

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-17 Thread Robert Schuster
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, to compile cacao successfully with --with-external-classpath you need the latest CVS version of both codebases. cu Robert -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.or

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-17 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Sat, 2005-09-17 at 18:23 +, theUser BL wrote: > Then means this > http://www.theuserbl.ag.vu/cacaoerr.txt > that > 1. the VM interface from 0.16 to 0.18 _have_ changed and > 2. they are not minor changes. Yes, see the release announcements (under Runtime interface changes) and the VM i

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-17 Thread theUser BL
Exactly. If the VM interface does not change (or only minor changes), you can configure CACAO to use a external classpath installation (which can be a CVS version or a newly realeased one), like it's done for jamvm. Just use the --with-external-classpath= configure switch. Then means this http

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-16 Thread Martin Husted Hartvig
At first the developer changed the GNU Classpath code on any JVM, so that is no longer compatible to the old one. So, when a new GNU Classpath version is released, there existing at first, no JVMs on which it can run. This depends entirely on the associated projects. JamVM for example is prett

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Christian Thalinger
On Thu, 2005-09-15 at 16:51 +0200, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Yes. That's part of the necessity of being a work-in-progress, though: > the VM interface is still in huge flux, and will be until GNU Classpath > is finished. Since GNU Classpath is fortunately not tied to a single > runtime, the VM inte

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Dalibor Topic
Stuart Ballard wrote: > Makes me wonder, since the need to override certain files and/or > packages in Classpath for a particular VM is such a common scenario, > whether Classpath's build system shouldn't include native support for > this. Obviously this doesn't jive with the eventual goal of a sin

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Dalibor Topic
Tom Tromey wrote: >>"Stuart" == Stuart Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Stuart> Makes me wonder, since the need to override certain files and/or > Stuart> packages in Classpath for a particular VM is such a common scenario, > Stuart> whether Classpath's build system shouldn't include

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Stuart" == Stuart Ballard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Stuart> Makes me wonder, since the need to override certain files and/or Stuart> packages in Classpath for a particular VM is such a common scenario, Stuart> whether Classpath's build system shouldn't include native support for Stuart> t

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Meskauskas Audrius
GNU Classpath is a library. Depending on the needs of you project, significant part of it can be used as an alternative library for an arbitrary jre's. Many newer packages provide standard mechanism to plug-in the alternative implementation just by setting several system poperties to the altern

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Stuart Ballard
On 9/15/05, Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Missing bits and pieces: > String (yay, same as gcj. May be really hard. ;) > java.lang.reflection (hard in a way, easy in a way. Hard since GNU > Classpath has almost no code for it, so it'll be easy to merge in > Kaffe's implementation. Volun

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Dalibor Topic
Robert Schuster wrote: And a CVS-version of Kaffe I have not tried. But Kaffe 1.1.5 don't run Swing programs on my computer. For a long long time Kaffe developed its own class library. These days Dalibor is applying Classpath' patch flood into Kaffe's library to keep the projects in sync. How

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Dalibor Topic
theUser BL wrote: Hi! What me everytime wonder is, that GNU Classpath have not its own VM. The FSF has gcj, actually. It is the 'GNU' runtime. To show the situation so, like I see it: Suns Java comes as a complete package, which includes the Classes _and_ the JVM. Mono comes as a complete p

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Robert Schuster
Hi. theUser BL wrote: > Hi! > > What me everytime wonder is, that GNU Classpath have not its own VM. Theoretically every Java replacement package should develop a VM, tools and a class library. However it quickly turned out that there is a lot of stuff which can be shared between the projects. On

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Robert Lougher
Hi, > >From the new versions, which use 0.17 or 0.18, I can either not compile it > or it (like JamVM), or it have problems with AWT and Swing (IKVM). > And a CVS-version of Kaffe I have not tried. But Kaffe 1.1.5 don't run Swing > programs on my computer. > JamVM _does_ work with Classpath-0.18

Re: GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread Andrew Haley
theUser BL writes: > > What me everytime wonder is, that GNU Classpath have not its own VM. > > To show the situation so, like I see it: > Suns Java comes as a complete package, which includes the Classes _and_ the > JVM. > Mono comes as a complete package, which includes the .net-classes

GNU Classpath and JVMs

2005-09-15 Thread theUser BL
Hi! What me everytime wonder is, that GNU Classpath have not its own VM. To show the situation so, like I see it: Suns Java comes as a complete package, which includes the Classes _and_ the JVM. Mono comes as a complete package, which includes the .net-classes and the mono-runtime. Only with