Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-13 Thread Brian Jones
"John Keiser" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Frankly, there are only going to be a few major contributors whose toolkits are going to be *extremely* widely used, and GNU is probably one of them. Making it easy to type and use and think about (less mental friction) is a good thing. Although not

RE: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-13 Thread John Keiser
's ugly. I truly do not know what "most people" think. --John Keiser -Original Message- From: Thomas J Lukasik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 12, 1999 9:19 PM To: John Keiser; Classpat 2 Subject: Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-13 Thread Wes Biggs
Hey, I've got a great solution. We start a "gnu" TLD to go along with "com", "org", etc. Problem solved, everyone's happy, we all find more constructive things to debate and/or get on with writing code. Wes

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-13 Thread Aaron M. Renn
Wow. This is the most discussion we've had on any topic in a long time around here. This is the most ridiculous thing to have a flame war about ever. So I'll pledge to stop right here. Everyone else can send one more message if they want to. The vast bulk of what we are writing is in the

RE: org.gnu vs. gnu

1999-09-13 Thread John Keiser
- From: Aaron M. Renn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 13, 1999 8:00 AM To: Wes Biggs Cc: Classpath Subject: Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations) Wow. This is the most discussion we've had on any topic in a long time around here. This is the most ridiculous

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu

1999-09-13 Thread Morgan Schweers
Greetings, Fascinating. I wonder how loud the hue and cry would be if Microsoft decided to arbitrarily use a top-level package name 'microsoft.*' because of visibility 'advertising' purposes, and they think it's an arbitrary standard, and besides EVERYBODY knows who Microsoft is

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu

1999-09-13 Thread Brian Jones
Morgan Schweers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you want to talk the talk of following standards, you'd best walk the walk as well. This is a standard, and violating it just because you think it's arbitrary is...distinctly offensive at best. We're all for standards around here... just not

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu

1999-09-13 Thread Paul Fisher
John Keiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But while we don't need to decide now, I think we *do* need to decide before release. Release? What's that? :) -- Paul Fisher * [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-13 Thread Michael Stevens
On Sun, Sep 12, 1999 at 11:13:37PM -0700, John Keiser wrote: OK, here it is in writing: I am absolutely serious, "org.gnu" takes more energy than "gnu". But it's not about typing energy, it's about thinking energy, the minimization of which is (IMO) one of the principal factors in designing

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-13 Thread Thomas J Lukasik
Thomas J Lukasik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Classpath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 1:19 AM Subject: RE: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations) OK, here it is in writing: I am absolutely serious, "org.gnu" takes more energy than "gnu". But it's not ab

Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-13 Thread Thomas J Lukasik
someone **begs** me to come out of retirement =8j) TJL -Original Message- From: Wes Biggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Keiser [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Thomas J Lukasik [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Classpath [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Monday, September 13, 1999 2:10 AM Subject: Re: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Co

RE: org.gnu vs. gnu

1999-09-13 Thread Pohl_Longsine
I wonder how loud the hue and cry would be if Microsoft decided to arbitrarily use a top-level package name 'microsoft.*' I would have no problem with it, but... but I *DO* know that even they use com.ms (which is wrong, but at least closer) I have a real problem with this, because

RE: org.gnu vs. gnu (was Re: Congratulations)

1999-09-12 Thread John Keiser
Wow, didn't know this many people were alive and computing on Sundays :) My two cents: gnu.* is a hell of a lot easier to use and think about than org.gnu.*. I still think it looks silly to import com.sun like in JavaDoc. But I perfectly understand them putting stuff they *don't* want other