Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-15 Thread cig
Impressive, wonder if they were running this on a single node or more widespread? In a wide spread environment I think Erlang would be the true winner, though it does not natively have macros :-( There is an implementation of Lisp for Erlang called LFE (lisp flavored Erlang) which I looked at,

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-15 Thread Sean Corfield
On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 11:15 PM, cig clifford.goldb...@gmail.com wrote: Impressive, wonder if they were running this on a single node or more widespread? We run an instance of the process on multiple nodes, configured slightly differently. We needed some parallelization to improve throughput

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-15 Thread Edward Garson
Native Erlang does have a macro facility, but it is not as powerful as Lisp/Clojure's. On Sep 15, 2:15 am, cig clifford.goldb...@gmail.com wrote: [snip] In a wide spread environment I think Erlang would be the true winner, though it does not natively have macros :-( [snip] -- You received

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-15 Thread Raoul Duke
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Edward Garson egar...@gmail.com wrote: Native Erlang does have a macro facility, but it is not as powerful as Lisp/Clojure's. lfe, baby, though of course that is not native erlang. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-15 Thread Tal Liron
On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 1:44:09 PM UTC-5, Sean Corfield wrote: It was intended to be purely anecdotal but that doesn't seem to satisfy anyone! :) Homer: You know, when I was a boy, I really wanted a catcher's mitt, but my dad wouldn't get it for me. So I held my breath until I passed

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-13 Thread Nathan Sorenson
I adore Clojure as well, but could this success not be partially due to the reimplementing for the second time phenomenon? i.e. if you re- wrote the entire thing in Scala again, perhaps you would see similar gains in brevity etc? On Sep 6, 10:32 pm, Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: I

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-13 Thread Laurent PETIT
Isn't it Brooks who said you will throw it away at least 3 times, or something like this ? :) 2011/9/13 Nathan Sorenson n...@sfu.ca I adore Clojure as well, but could this success not be partially due to the reimplementing for the second time phenomenon? i.e. if you re- wrote the entire thing

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-13 Thread Meikel Brandmeyer
“Plan to throw one away.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-13 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:48 AM, Nathan Sorenson n...@sfu.ca wrote: I adore Clojure as well, but could this success not be partially due to the reimplementing for the second time phenomenon? i.e. if you re- wrote the entire thing in Scala again, perhaps you would see similar gains in brevity

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-13 Thread Laurent PETIT
Oh, it was just one, after all ? Please, don't tell this to my boss :-D 2011/9/13 Meikel Brandmeyer m...@kotka.de “Plan to throw one away.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-07 Thread Luc Prefontaine
Hi, We have been running Clojure daemons 24/7 in prod. since Jan. 2009. We also considered Scala back in 2008. We could not agree more with your conclusions :) Luc P. On Tue, 6 Sep 2011 22:32:47 -0700 Sean Corfield seancorfi...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to share this experience from

Re: Deamons in Clojure (was Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote)

2011-09-07 Thread Bronsa
the lein-daemon plugin seems to do that Il giorno 07/set/2011 16.27, Marko Kocić marko.ko...@gmail.com ha scritto: While we are at this topic, how do you run Clojure deamons. Do you have some scripts to set it up how? Is there a simple way to daemonize lein project? Regards, Marko -- You

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-07 Thread Dennis Haupt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 so the scala actors add much more overhead than the clojure equivalent? Am 07.09.2011 07:32, schrieb Sean Corfield: I just wanted to share this experience from World Singles... Back in November 2009, we started developing with Scala. We needed a

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-07 Thread Sean Corfield
On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 10:17 AM, Dennis Haupt d.haup...@googlemail.com wrote: so the scala actors add much more overhead than the clojure equivalent? The main problem is that the current implementation of actors in Scala suffers from known memory leaks and performance problems - problems that

Re: Deamons in Clojure (was Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote)

2011-09-07 Thread Aaron Bedra
I have used jsvc in the past and found it to be a great tool. It allows you to configure which user the application runs as, and does proper detaching. It allows you to configure output streams and pid files to your liking. I have written some simple init scripts as well to make it very unix

Re: Deamons in Clojure (was Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote)

2011-09-07 Thread Marko Kocić
Thanks for the tip about jsvc. I'll give it a try. Do you have some script examples to share, since having Linux service is exactly what I need? Thanks, Marko -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to

Re: Deamons in Clojure (was Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote)

2011-09-07 Thread Aaron Bedra
On 09/07/2011 02:53 PM, Marko Kocić wrote: Thanks for the tip about jsvc. I'll give it a try. Do you have some script examples to share, since having Linux service is exactly what I need? Thanks, Marko I'll try and put together a few things including the code that implements the interface to

Re: Deamons in Clojure (was Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote)

2011-09-07 Thread Tal Liron
On Wednesday, September 7, 2011 1:53:43 PM UTC-5, Marko Kocić wrote: Thanks for the tip about jsvc. I'll give it a try. Do you have some script examples to share, since having Linux service is exactly what I need? I strongly recommend Tanuki's wrapper over jsvc:

Re: Clojure vs Scala - anecdote

2011-09-06 Thread Ambrose Bonnaire-Sergeant
Thanks for sharing Sean, very interesting! Ambrose -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Clojure group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post.