[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-19 Thread Vivi
to Anjana et al: If an interesting number of patients on Gleevec develop shingles, it might be rewarding to go on the shingles vaccine that has recently had a wide-population test in the VA Hospital system. Perhaps we should all ask our oncs about that. --~--~-~--~~~-

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-19 Thread anjana
These are all medical abstracts from medical journals. You can access them at Pubmed. Please bear in mind that these are all lab studies. However, I have given below the study by MD Anderson doctors on Gleevec patients getting shingles. There is a low incidence of patients on Gleevec getting sh

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-19 Thread anjana
These are all medical abstracts from medical journals. You can access them at Pubmed. Please bear in mind that these are all lab studies. However, I have given below the study by MD Anderson doctors on Gleevec patients getting shingles. There is a low incidence of patients on Gleevec getting sh

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-18 Thread Ss5726
DO YOU HAVE THE ACTUAL LINKS TO THESE ARTICLES. I WOULD LIKE TO COPY THEM AND GIVE THEM TO MY LAWYER FOR MY SSD CASE. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ [CMLHope] A support group of http://cmlhope.com - You received this mes

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-18 Thread anjana
I am surprised that you do not think the Mayo Clinic doctors state that long-term Gleevec can affect immunity, it says there in black and white. It is clear that some studies showed immune system of patients can be compromised by Gleevec and some do not. Whether this translates from the petridi

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-18 Thread Trey
Actually I believe we are only talking about semantics here. I am glad you pointed out the interesting T-cell article, which also uses the word "suppress". So let's just say we agree that folks on Gleevec are not in danger of disease and infection that would prevent us from living an otherwise n

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-18 Thread anjana
Hi Trey, I am afraid you are wrong. Doctors are NOT talking about suppression of the immune system like in low WBC when they talk about Gleevec and the immune system. They are talking about Gleevec inhibiting the proliferation of the T-cell lymphocytes, which are part of our immune system.

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-17 Thread Christine Finsand
Friday, November 17, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: [CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU There is a difference between suppressing the immune system and compromising it, and the articles talk about suppression, not compromise. If the WBCs are very low, as can occur in some CMLers on Gl

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-17 Thread Christine Finsand
Thanks for the response chris in minn - Original Message - From: anjana<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: CMLHope<mailto:CMLHope@googlegroups.com> Sent: Friday, November 17, 2006 2:17 AM Subject: [CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU Dear Chris and Mike,

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-17 Thread Trey
There is a difference between suppressing the immune system and compromising it, and the articles talk about suppression, not compromise. If the WBCs are very low, as can occur in some CMLers on Gleevec, then it is suppressed and somewhat more susceptible to a virus or bacteria, but can still res

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-17 Thread anjana
Dear Chris and Mike, There are 2-3 articles from the doctors that show Gleevec can compromise the immune system. Yuo are very right, Christine. Roy, though, has not had many coughs and colds after Gleevec compared to before. Before CML, he would always go through colds like 2-3 times a yea

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-15 Thread Trey
We all have different side effects. For me, Gleevec restored the energy levels that CML robbed from me. At diagnosis I was weak and felt horrible. Now, after 14 months on Gleevec I have plenty of energy, even though I am not as young as I used to be. But that doesn't mean that others will resp

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-14 Thread Trey
CMLers tend toward having anemia, so can feel tired more easily. That is related to the red blood cells. That is different than a "compromised immune system", which is primarily related to the white blood cells. I think most of us feel like we are lacking full energy levels. It is a good idea

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-14 Thread Trey
The facts do not support a theory that CML patients who respond well to Gleevec or Sprycel have a compromised immune system, unless their WBC counts are very low. The definition of a compromised immune system is in the WBC count numbers, so if the WBC numbers are close enough to normal (probably

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-13 Thread katybug45
I have noticed the same thing Lori, things that I used to get over in hours or a day or two now seems to take days or weeks to go away. Hugs, Katy   --DX: 10/03 400mg gleevec 1st remission: 12/03 #677 in Zero Club 1st relapse: 6/05 raised to 600mg gleevec 2nd second remission: 8/05 2nd relapse: 6/

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-12 Thread katybug45
THAT would explain it!   --DX: 10/03 400mg gleevec 1st remission: 12/03 #677 in Zero Club 1st relapse: 6/05 raised to 600mg gleevec 2nd second remission: 8/05 2nd relapse: 6/06 to current Taken off of gleevec 6/06 xanga.com/katybug45   -- Original message -- From: "Christin

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-12 Thread Christine Finsand
Not to add fuel, here, however I believe that there are some recent studies that have been mentioned to me regarding the suppression of the immune system as a result of Gleevec.  Anyone know more on this??   chris in minn - Original Message - From: mburwen To: CMLHope Sent

[CMLHope] Re: No immune compromise if PCRU

2006-11-11 Thread katybug45
Hi Mike, My Onc. said the same thing your ER doc said. He told me that he did NOT want me getting sick. That I was more susceptible and that if I did get sick (even in remission) and started running a fever of 100.5 or greater to let him know. Now I am not that great a patient soo my temp