Any one of these that suits the volume you need to extract will work
exceptionally well and will fit your motor.
Rich
On Nov 26, 2013, at 0:06, Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote:
Could anyone recommend an oil extractor pump that will work / fit the 2GM20F?
Forgot the link. Sorry.
http://ca.binnacle.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=PelaosCsid=82ddnsajspqi5qcobhcvq1nn84search.x=-918search.y=-142
Rich
On Nov 26, 2013, at 0:06, Kevin Driscoll kevindrisc...@gmail.com wrote:
Could anyone recommend an oil extractor pump that will work / fit
Andy,
No trouble with 6.5’ draft in the ditch? I’ve often thought of making a run
south, but the thought of dodging shallow water the whole way puts me off. I
haven’t made it past milepost zero yet.
Jake
Jake Brodersen
“Midnight Mistress”
CC 35 Mk-III
Hampton Va
Here is the one I use on my 2GM20F it works real well. Its still a bit
hard to get all the oil out. It helps to prime the pump.
Cheers and good luck
http://www.go2marine.com/product/52018F/jabsco-utility-hand-pump-marine-engine-oil-drain-self-priming-brass-piston-type.html
On 11/25/13, Kevin
I just bought the less expensive Jabsco electric pump and pail. A little slow,
but got the job done just fine. About $134 online.
Harry
Mirage
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Andrew;
I don’t envy you about running the stretch through Currituck Sound and Coinjock
In the dark. Lots of shallow and narrow to look out for, even with little or no
wind last night.
Since you are likely to be taking a pause in Beaufort tonight, would you be
interested in getting
Hey Andy you get to Beaufort SC and need a mooring. I have one in the
field in the downtown water frount not being used. I have my boat at
the Port Royal landing. I keep it in case of a storm. It is vacant.
Send me an e-mail I can meet you out there and show the correct one.
Cheers,
On 11/26/13,
We went all the way (inside) in a Nauticat 36 motorsailor a couple of years
ago. Only had problems in Georgia (except once when turning in to a marina too
early - bumped off that one). Sat for 5 hours in the dirt near mark 72 in
Georgia - followed the red line on the charter - led us wrong.
Jake;
I’ve been up and down much of the ditch from Norfolk to as far south as Port
Royal, SC about 12 times over the years. Even with the 6.5 ft draft of
Mistress, you should have little trouble. For the most part you will find at
least 10-11 feet of depth in the ditch. In many stretches in
I got stuck in the mud one night just passed coinjock pretty bad, no tides
there. It was that first left bend. When you make that first left after the
stretch of straight waterway at coinjock.Trying to get myself out of the
mud not knowing if I’m in the channel or not was not fun. Took
Andrew,
Did the Valiant have a problem with the bridge height on the ICW. We talked
ourselves out of the ICW to bypass rounding Cape Hatteras because of draft
(7' wing) and height (67', measured) on a CC 44. I would have thought the
50' Valiant would have an air draft problem.
Jon
We're in the Alligator -Pungo Canal at the moment and we've had not problems
(so far). The trick seems to be to stay on the magenta line except at the
entrance to the Alligator River. I think 7' would be OK, you tend to be more
watchful than someone who draws only 4'. I took 9' down in 1984 and
Hello Bill and Gaynor
You may already know this. The 35 Mk II sails beautifully under genoa alone.
I often sail Lotus by myself with just the 135 up.
Because of this easy handling in a fairly wide wind range, one is encouraged
to go out for a short sail more often and it¹s a blessing when you¹re
Jon, we had no problem with height, even at Wilkerson rd bridge, though the VHF
antenna tickled the girders. Our reported air draft is under 64'. No way with 67
That's very kind of you, thanks, Curtis. It looks like we will have a nice
enough weather window to leave Thursday and make Florida
I’m with the “go!” statement. I’ve done the ICW both ways, Georgetown, SC
being the southernmost exit point, on everything from 28’ sailboats to a 100’
private motor yacht which had a draft a good bit deeper that 8’ and it’s the
expensive bits that hit first and had no difficulties. Dumb luck
Jon;
7 foot draft is very little problem in the ICW in North Carolina, but 67 ft
of air draft would be a killer.
The Wilkerson Bridge at the south end of the Alligator River Cut is only 64
feet in normal water (and we have no tides to help here). If the wind is
blowing hard from the right
Certainly.
Beaufort is only a bit over an hour drive, and it won't be raining after
tomorrow around noonish. Of course, that's if you believe NOAA.
Where do you plan to dock/anchor in the Morehead/Beaufort area?
If you're in the Pungo River and making 6.7 KT, it will probably take you
another
Congratulations, Bill and Gaynor. You've acquired a great boat. In my opinion,
the 3 CC 35s epitomize the best of the CC line each is beautiful and each
sails like a witch. Here's hoping you enjoy her for many happy years.
Andy
CC 40
Peregrine
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA
Hi Peter,
Since selling our CC 29, we have been cruising for five years now on our 42'
Hampton trawler. 28,000 miles and much of it on the ICW. Been past Coinjock 7
times. With the exception of 4 overnight passages across Florida's Big Bend
from Caribelle to Clearwater, not one single mile
Hello all
I have been watching the list for a while but never contributed until now.
Couple years ago we bought a 1980 CC 30 MKI from the original owner. wonderful
wonderful boat! This was our first boat and things have been a bit daunting at
times- but I cant tell you how much the list
We'll be staying at the Beaufort Docks. I am planning to push on to there if I
can get away with it. The weather do look snotty, don't she! Looks like I'm
going to have to dig out my Gill body-prophylactics again!
I'll give you a call in the morning if that's OK.
Andy
Andrew Burton
61 W
It is great hearing all of the encouragement to do the ICW. Honestly I
have resisted any inclination simply because of the inability to sail.
What are people's thoughts on the merits of sailing vs. those of the ICW?
Josh Muckley
S/V Sea Hawk
On Nov 26, 2013 10:40 AM, Rick Brass
Welcome Joanne!
What is the engine in your boat and shaft diameter?
Rich
On Nov 26, 2013, at 11:53 AM, joanne.dowd3...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello all
I have been watching the list for a while but never contributed until now.
Couple years ago we bought a 1980 CC 30 MKI from the original
Joanne,
Was there any anode (zinc) left? On the Chesapeake I go through several in
a season. You might consider putting on 2 or having someone dive and check
during the season.
Joel
5/3
Annapolis
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Rich Knowles r...@sailpower.ca wrote:
Welcome Joanne!
What
Peter,
One other thought. Pick up the 2014 Waterway Guide for the ICW. I and others
updated that last spring. Since then, there have been over 500 updates and
those can be found on the Waterway Guide web site. If you follow the guide and
read the updates on the web site, you will have the
Here's a quick way to measure the pitch:
http://propellerhub.com/simple-pitch-measuring.html
On 26 November 2013 08:07, Joel Aronson joel.aron...@gmail.com wrote:
Joanne,
Was there any anode (zinc) left? On the Chesapeake I go through several
in a season. You might consider putting on 2
Joanne,
Just looked in my CC manual which has original specs for a whole bunch of
different CC’s.
My data sheet is dated May 1977:
CC 30:
Universal engine - 1:1 transmission - 11” x 7” x 7/8” RH (2 blade fixed)
Westerbeke Deisel - 2:1 transmission - 14” x 10” x 1” RH (2 blade fixed)
No
From bitter experience:
1. The brass hand pumps get really hot when your oil is warm enough to
transfer, are difficult to position in the sump unless you have a helper,
and sometimes ooze oil out the end caps. I used to use an oven mitt with
mine until I started using a vacuum extractor.
2. The
My former boat, a 1981 30mkI (hull 677) didn’t have either of those engine
choices; it had a Yanmar 2GM20F. As I recall, the shaft was either 7/8” or 1”.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^(
On Nov 26, 2013, at 10:47 AM,
I use one of the larger Pela vacuum extractors. My opinion, don't buy the
smaller one. At some point you will need the larger size.
I keep one of the hand pumps on board along with enough oil and filters to do
an oil change underway if need be. I usually have a couple of gallon water
jugs
Sorry I should have said the enging- Yanmar 2GM20F. the shaft is 7/8”
Joanne
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My former boat, a 1981 30mkI (hull 677) didn’t have either of those engine
Joel
the anode had some corrosion but by no means badly. I am going to put on 2 this
year. I did question that somehow I got a salt water anode instead of fresh. We
have had some problems with the electrical inverter as well this year- seems to
have stopped working- I did wonder if the unused
Ken's comments actually apply to just about every CC I sailed, I have and
still frequently sail with the headsail alone, for the same reason he states;
only enough time for a short sail, so I'd rather do that than sit and wait for
another day. I believe that is a testament to the designers,
Joanne — if you’re in fresh water, you shouldn’t need anodes at all. The only
reason I have one on my prop shaft is to keep it from backing out of the hull
if the coupler comes loose.
If you’re seeing that much corrosion in fresh water, there are probably some
serious electrical issues in
Bad shore power wiring and poorly bonded grounds can cause excessive
corrosion. Bad electrical systems on neighboring boats could also
exacerbate your problems. I think most people follow the practice of
unplugging from shore unless absolutely necessary. A top off for the
batteries is enough
Thanks everyone for your kind words!! I am looking forward to fun,
foibles, and frustrations of sailing.
I am spending the winter reading books and marine cataloges ( I knew
there was a reason I needed to go to work every now and again:-) ). I
am working on the electrics ( battery, panel,
Right or wrong here's how I install shaft zincs on Touche'.
1. Use a good brand of zinc with a copper contact. I like Camp zincs
2. Use emery cloth to make shaft bright
3. Apply a small amount of TefGel to the copper contact
4. Place zinc on shaft forward of the
Hi All,
Just how many 35-IIs did CC build in 1974?
I know there was something about the different codes but don't remember.
Thanks, Lee
Lee Youngblood
s/v Simplicity in Seattle
1974 CC 35-II
Hull #ZCC352520374
Bill and Gaynor
Mithrandir
'74 CC 35 MkII
HIN: CCY352241174
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Joanne,
What is the shaft size and which engine do you have?
I see you are from Hamilton, we are in Burlington – where do you keep your
boat? Perception is at Newport in the summer and 50 Point for the winter .
we use a magnesium anode (better protection in fresh water than a
My 1980 version (#593) with the Yanmar 2QM15 had a 13.5 x 9 on a 7/8 shaft.
It ran easily to well over 3000 rpm (I seem to remember 3600 one time when I
was trying to outrun a storm). I thought it could have more pitch. I think my
Flex-o-fold is a 14 x 10.
Gary
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Paul
We have a yanmar 2GM20F engine with a 7/8 inch shaft.
we are at the RHYC
thanks for the anode advice- After reading Dennis’ comments re installing shaft
zincs I am hanging my head in shame! I did not do that right- though I do think
there is more of an issue be it our boat or not-
Better yet, Join Active Captain, and get the app that talks to you as you
navigate and tells you what to watch out for!
Bill Coleman
CC 39
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Chuck
Yes warm the oil you want to change out before draining the sump but it is
equally important to run the engine up to temp for a while on the new oil
Dwight Veinot
Alianna
CC 35 MKII
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:16 PM, Chuck S cscheaf...@comcast.net wrote:
I don't think it will ever sail as good as the MKI but there are other
advantages
Dwight Veinot
Alianna
CC 35 MKII
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 2:29 AM, Robert Gallagher trys...@gmail.com wrote:
My 30MKI had the mast raked back and the rigging on the tight side.
This was 2006. Part of the problem was that channel is so narrow that I
remember the GPS position on the laptop showing me smack in the center of the
channel yet I was hard in the mud. Either charts are wrong or GPS had 50-100
feet accuracy issue. I guess the waterway guide or active captain
It's all good, spend as much time as possible between Halifax and
Shelburne, you will love St. Margaret's Bay and Mahone Bay, I know them
both very well so contact me if you want.
Dwight Veinot
Alianna
CC 35 MKII
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
On Sun, Nov 24, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Persuasion
You might want to consider a feathering prop is you are going to replace
it. You can probably get one of those for a couple of year's tuition ;-).
BTW I am at Harbour West.
Don Newman
CC 44
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 1:42 PM, joanne.dowd3...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul
We have a yanmar 2GM20F
CC built 147 CC 35 MKII's.
Lately there seems to have been a lot of 35 MKII owners showing up on this
list. My 35 MKII, Alianna, is an absolute delight in so many ways, pretty
to look at, comfortable in heavy seas, fast, responsive, strong, well
built...what else can I say.
If other 35 MKII
Lee, it looks like you have hull # 252, Mithrandir is #224. I thought they
were all built in NOL, I don't know why yours would prefix ZCC and theirs
CCY...ZCC is CC @ NOL, CCY references Calder Building Co. in Arizona.
I see Dwight has just posted that there were only 147 built, so now I'm not
Dennis, why would you put an insulating material (Tef Gel) between the two
elements that have to have good electrical contact? Seems a little
counterintuitive to me.
I stopped whacking the zincs with a hammer a few years ago and haven't had
any problems with zincs not staying on/bonded.
One extra
CC in Canada was designated by manufacturer code CCY *U-N-T-I-L* CC
opened a US factory in Rhode Island. From that moment on, Canadian boats
were designated ZCC, and the U.S. built boats were designated CCY. When
that iteration of the CC company folded, the CCY designation became
available,
ZCC30675M81E
What does mine tell ya?
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 3:22 PM, Bill Bina billb...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
CC in Canada was designated by manufacturer code CCY *U-N-T-I-L* CC
opened a US factory in Rhode Island. From that moment on, Canadian boats
were designated ZCC, and the U.S.
Tef Gel is even okay to use on the contacts of switch gear relays. It
prevents corrosion without creating electrical resistance. I have no
idea how that works, but that's what the literature says. It does sound
counter-intuitive, but it's perfectly okay.
Bill Bina
On 11/26/2013 3:18 PM, Jim
I still wack the zincs as Dennis decribed and I use lock tite on the nuts.
I use 2 zincs and from early June to early Oct this year both were used up
and gone at haul out
Dwight Veinot
Alianna
CC 35 MKII
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:18 PM, Jim Watts
Jim
That was solved earlier, apparently the RI plant was opened in Feb 1974
right in the middle of the 35 MKII production run: I can’t remember who but
someone on this list explained that and what was previously the NOL letters
became the RI letters in the ser. no. or something like that, so
http://www.boatsafe.com/nauticalknowhow/hin.htm
Bill Bina
On 11/26/2013 3:25 PM, Curtis wrote:
ZCC30675M81E
What does mine tell ya?
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Curtis — I think I went through this before for you (my 30mkI was hull #677),
but here goes again:
ZCC: CC built in the Niagara-On-The_Lake, ONT plant
30: it’s a 30mkI
675: hull #675
M: model year format
81: model year 1981
E: built in December
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979
I also recommend Active Captain – also free – which has on line charts, notes,
and updates that are only a few hours old. The charts are also interactive with
your chart plotter if you connect the plotter and a wi-fi device. For Garmin
plotters, I believe you need Garmin Homeport software and
Despite the never-ending confusion over how the numbering system works,
no (none) 35's were ever built in Rhode Island. You would need the molds
for that, and they were always in Canada. The numbering system really
isn't that complicated, but people seem to go crazy trying to figure it
out
Right,now I remember more: it was just that CC gave the Rhode Island plant
the ZCC desigantion when it opened in 1974 and the NOL plant got CCY, so my
35 MKII, hull 242, which was built in 02/74 got CCY in its serial numeber
because it was apparently built a matter of day(s) after the RI palnt
Around the late 70's and early eighties the 20's and 39's were all getting
new, deeper rudders. The swept back keels didn't / don't help.
Bill Coleman
CC 39 animated_favicon1
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Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013
Canadian Built, 30 foot, HIN 675, 81 model with keel laid in month E, which
is either December or January. (Model year starts in September, but I think
they use A for August as the start of the model year production.
I'm sure Bill will tell me if that's wrong.
BTW, it seems strange that
Hey Don- we are at Harbour West as well- Modjeska- no one can miss our bright
bright yellow hull!
Joanne
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You might want to consider a feathering prop is you
I will look for it the next time I am down at the yard.
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 4:14 PM, joanne.dowd3...@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Don- we are at Harbour West as well- Modjeska- no one can miss our
bright bright yellow hull!
Joanne
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*From:* Don Newman
Josh;
At least in the stretch between Norfolk and Beaufort, NC you can sail much
of the ICW. I do it all the time, and watch circus parades of snowbirds
sailing south most every day.
You can't sail everywhere or in all wind conditions, but I'm guessing that
you an sail in 30 to 50% of the
Are you playing this on your radio when you sail past the snowbirds? ;^)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6uVl6u93IU
Bill Coleman
CC 39
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Brass
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 5:28 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
For an interesting perspective, read a book called The Boy, Me and the Cat, by
Henry Plummer, about a 3,000-mile round trip in 1912-13 in a 24-foot catboat
along what is now the Intracoastal.
He did a lot of sailing because he didn’t have a choice.
Jack Brennan
Former CC 25
Shanachie, 1974
That's pretty much backwards, Dwight.
Canada was CCY until the Rhode Island plant opened. All Canadian
boats after that were ZCC, and all Rhode Island boats were CCY.
ZCC was NEVER used in the U.S. These manufacturers codes are
assigned by the government. CC did
I have a 3 blade Campbell Sailer 13 diameter x 7 pitch for 7/8 SAE Std.
taper shaft (2QM15 engine) which I'm happy with. I switched from a 2 blade MW
prop. I get more RPM, less vibrations, and I can now hit 6+ knots in calm
conditions
Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1
She's docked in Back Creek. I have a good friend who is a live-aboard in
Liberty Marina. When not too busy, Harness Creek is an awesome place to
anchor...
Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2013 16:25:37 -0500
From: joel.aron...@gmail.com
To:
MK1 is stiff for sure but I just wish I had less weather helm. I generally reef
in anything above 10 knots...
Cheers,Aaron R.Admiral Maggie,1979 CC 30 MK1 #540Annapolis, MD
Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 18:46:07 -0400
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI
Jack,
Your idea to suggest a book is a good one for this list and this time of year.
Hopefully others will make suggestions?
A sailing book I enjoyed and would recommend is:
The Boat Who Wouldn't Float , by Farley Mowat, 1969.
A funny story about a guy buying a dilapidated wooden schooner
I don't think you should have to reef that soon.what is the rake on your
mast
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Subject: Re: Stus-List 30 MKI weather helm
MK1 is stiff for sure
That book is a fun read, Chuck: not a long read.sounds about right for
dilapidated wooden schooners of yesteryear.maybe even this year
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Subject:
One of my planned winter projects this year is a leather wrap for the wheel on
Firewater. The bare stainless gets a bit cold on both ends of the season
around here. This raises a few questions of people who might have done it
before. First, does anyone have experience with boatleather.com or
Can't help on removing the wheel but boat leather is a good outfit. Have
bought several items from them. Covering the wheel is not difficult but takes
some force to keep it tight, especially if you go with foam under it. A great
winter project.
John
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On Nov 26, 2013, at
I seem to remember they didn't start over at hull 1 with the 35 Mk.2 I
think they just continued the numbering sequentially from the last 35 Mk.1
built.
Ken H.
On 26 November 2013 15:08, Jim Watts paradigmat...@gmail.com wrote:
Lee, it looks like you have hull # 252, Mithrandir is #224. I
Welcome, is that Mithrandir that's now down at Oak Bay Marina? If so, I
believe we were out on the hard up in Sidney back in the summer
together. I spent a very enjoyable week working with copious amounts of
acetone and wielding a buffer. Wait, did I say enjoyable?
Cheers,
Paul
Orange
I understand the need to get the temperature up in order to get the old oil
out, but why do I need to run it up to temp with the new oil? I have just been
turning the engine over for a minute or less to get the oil circulated. (Engine
block is still warm- but certainly not up to temp
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Bill, do you know where the 37s (1981-1985 production) were built? Thanks
Richard
1987 33-II
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Hi Joanne,
I don't recall anyone offering the simple solution... take the prop
to the local prop shop.
They will have a gauge that can read the pitch of your prop. Bear in
mind that is only a starting point if you are not replacing in kind.
I don't know about the urethane perfect pitch
Acetone makes everything fun. Or at least forgotten.
On 26 November 2013 19:50, Paul Baker pauljba...@shaw.ca wrote:
Welcome, is that Mithrandir that's now down at Oak Bay Marina? If so, I
believe we were out on the hard up in Sidney back in the summer together.
I spent a very enjoyable
From sailing anarchy:
The new CC 30 is pure race boat, complete with a fixed composite sprit to
accommodate an asymmetric spinnaker, carbon fiber rig, square top mainsail,
Dyneema lifelines, fabricated steel fin keel with lead bulb, top of the
line hardware package, and of course, water-tight
As soon as I sell my ancient barge I'm putting a down payment on one of
those.
Of course, at an asking price of only $189,900 CAD it might take a few
months to move my current ride, but that's the only way I'll be able to
afford one of the new barges. Dang, a self-contained head. I
And you get to pay for a 40 slip due to the fixed sprit.
Joel
On Wednesday, November 27, 2013, Jim Watts wrote:
As soon as I sell my ancient barge I'm putting a down payment on one of
those.
Of course, at an asking price of only $189,900 CAD it might take a few
months to move my
What is the advantage of a fixed
sprit? Cheaper than a retractable? It sure would run up the slip
costs, or is it easily removable?
On 11/26/2013 9:38 PM, Joel Aronson wrote:
From sailing anarchy:
The new
CC 30 is
Hi Tommy
I have a CC 25 mk I with one large deep cycle battery in the port locker and a
small AGM battery for starting the outboard. We have no power at our dock so I
use a small solar panel to charge the large battery. It lasted all summer
without an issue but the solar charger was not keeping
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