Anyone has an idea why this happened twice in a row.
Two trips to Block island this year and at about the same spot, right where
seas get a little lumpy, and on about half full tank, diesel sucks in air and
dies. First time was pounding into 20-kts (not a good way to travel), second
time
Petar — it might be that the fuel pickup tube is corroded, and either doesn’t
drop as far down into the fuel as it should/used to, or you have some pits in
it above the half-tank level that allow air it. Sounds like time to pull and
check it.
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC
Great, just as I thought work is done, and its time to enjoy summer
sailing
On Jul 6, 2015 9:12 AM, Frederick G Street via CnC-List
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Petar — it might be that the fuel pickup tube is corroded, and either
doesn’t drop as far down into the fuel as it should/used
Petar — in addition to B.O.A.T. being an acronym for “Break Out Another
Thousand,” I’ve also found from personal experience that it stands for “Broken
Or About To”… :^)
Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI
On Jul 6, 2015, at 8:13 AM, phorvati . via
Or the pickup becomes blocked, and air gets sucked in elsewhere in the fuel
system.
Paul Fountain
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One possibility is the vent line. Mine ran from a transom mounted vent and had
a long, flattish run before reaching the tank.
It turns out some water would get in the line now and then. In rougher seas,
the water would occasionally settle in a flat spot and block the line
completely,
So if the pickup was blocked, why on both occasions after bleeding(once in calm
water and second time in rough water but after adding 5 more gallons to the
tank) it ran without a problem for hours, 2nd time in the same rough seas.
The tank was out (dried out and inspected) over the winter
Dwight,
I've had the same problem twice, and both times it was a loose wire on the
back of the motor. Felt stupid the second time! wonder how I'll feel the
third time!
Joel
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:37 PM, dwight veinot via CnC-List
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For some reason my wheel
It was just the wire lead to the motor. Pushed it in and tightened the lock
nut. Mine is a little newer X 5 so the connector might be different. I hope
it's that simple for you!
Joel
On Monday, July 6, 2015, dwight veinot via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
Thanks Joel, I will check
Polyester resin doesnt stick too well to anything except uncured polyester
resin.
Thats why Gougeons recommend epoxy for fiberglass repair. Well, that, and
they sell it, of course.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMVCwhz_hY4
Bill Coleman
CC 39
Erie PA
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Thanks Joel, I will check that...can you tell me how to open the motor
housing in order to see the wires
Dwight Veinot
CC 35 MKII, *Alianna*
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
d.ve...@bellaliant.net
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List
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Dwight,
So my gage is a bit off, it was showing half tank both times when engine died.
But 5 gallon jerry can brought the needle to near full. Tank is 20 gallons.
When needle is at full, I can add another half of the jerry can before I
overfill (diesel starts coming out the air vent). This are
The diesel tank on our 29-2 definitely did not have dividers. I think our
tanks are too small to warrant dividers.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 6 July 2015 at 09:20, Petar Horvatic via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
So my gage is a bit off, it was showing half
David,
Does it have the flywheel pickup? Not sure of the easy test, but corrosion
at the pickup is a likely cause.
Joel
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:16 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
...after working intermittently on a 3QM30. I remember hearing here an
easy (ish) way to
If you have an o-scope then it's pretty easy. Should just be a square wave
coming from the pickupwhile the engine is running. Pretty sure the QMs
used a flywheel pickup the same as the HMs and GMs. Otherwise it is
possible to use a volt meter on AC to detect the voltage, again with the
...after working intermittently on a 3QM30. I remember hearing here an easy
(ish) way to check whether it is connection to engine or tach itself.
Thanks in advance!!
David F. Risch
(401) 419-4650 (cell)
For some reason my wheel pilot will not send a signal to the drive motor.
It worked fine just after completing the compass deviation procedure which
gave 3 degrees but then when I next went to use it in AUTO mode nothing
happened, no +1 or +10 or -1 or -10 response from the motor that drives the
The connectors can get loose on the back of the control head, as well. Ask
me how I know.
Jim Watts
Paradigm Shift
CC 35 Mk III
Victoria, BC
On 6 July 2015 at 14:30, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com
wrote:
It was just the wire lead to the motor. Pushed it in and tightened the
If you do wind up pulling the pick up tube, see if it still has a screen
over the end. If it does, my advice is to remove it. Your primary filter can
handle a lot more guck before it clogs than that little screen, and it is
usually easier to get at too.
Steve Thomas
CC27 MKIII
Port Stanley,
In addition to all the other possibilities, keep in mind that your pick- up
tube determines the remaining fuel amount. If it only goes down to 1/4 tank,
you are empty no matter what any gauge tells you. Don't ask me how I know but I
learned this more than once!
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
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Peter,
How low did the gauge read? How much did you think you had before adding
the 5 gallons? What did it read after? Did you top it off and see of the
numbers added up?
I agree it sounds like a plumbing issue with the vent or pickup. I hope
your access to the tank is better than mine!
Joel
/Q. I have heard that gel coat will not adhere well to epoxy
http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/tags/epoxy.html. Can you confirm
this?/
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and by some expensive
Rambler seems to be holding its own against Comanche. The gap is only 7
miles, and Yellowbrick lists it in first!
Guess I need to wear the NE Boatworks hat I got in Newport! (Harry, thank
the boss for including it in the goody bag!)
If you have read the blogs, the race has been pretty brutal
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