Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-11 Thread Rjcasciato via CnC-List
Edd.. My simple thinking is that you have to roll up at least the length of the foot of the 150. So why not measure the sail and then mark the line and wind that much onto the drum. When you put the sail back on, puling on the line should wind it up correctly I probably would add a foot

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-11 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Mine is nearly a 1:1 ratio and I usually keep a minimum of 3 or 4 wraps on the drum (~2ft). Then the add the length of the distance from the drum to the desired termination (~35ft). Then add the length of the foot. A 150% will be about 24 ft. So 65ft should be sufficient. Remember that you hav

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-11 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Make sure the line leads out of the drum 90 degrees to the forestay. If yours doesn't move the first block up or down until it does. Second, it's a lot easier to wrap the sheets around the furled sail to get the correct number of wraps. Buy extra line. Dennis C. Sent from my iPhone > On J

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-11 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Josh, Fntastic! Thanks. I bought 80-feet of line and will wrap 27-28 feet or so around the drum. That should do it. You da man. All the best, Edd --- Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise NCC-1701-B C&C 37+ | City Island, NY www.StarshipSailing.com ---

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-11 Thread Edward Levert via CnC-List
If able, measure the old line you cut off to get a rough idea of how much line to buy. Total up the pieces. Then raise the sail with no new line around the drum. Roll up the sail by hand again with no line attached to the drum. Now attach the new line to the drum with the sail fully furled. Add 2 r

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-12 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
Those 2 rolls by hand will be on the "wrong" way as the only way to get them on the drum is to rotate the sail and furler. I think the better way to get the extra rolls on the drum would be to wait to attach the line to the drum until the sail has been over furled by hand several times. I am th

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-12 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Why not wind up as much line as is needed on the drum first? 4 or 5 or 10 wraps or whatever, plus the foot length (24'). Now raise the sail. When you pull the furling line it will roll up the sail. Just like normal. Seems easier than trying to control a sail while manually rolling it without an

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-12 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
I may be totally wrong, but I don't think there is a direct correlation between the length of the foot and length of furling line. The marker the diameter of the drum, the longer the circumference and thus the longer the line required for one rotation - but the circumference of a roll of sail wi

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-12 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
Jonathan, You are correct there isn't a direct correlation between furling line length and foot length. As I previously stated mine happens to be roughly 1:1 averaged over the entire furl. I am simply visually approximating the diameter of a full drum compared to a full sail roll. You're right

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-12 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
I do it the way Josh recommends. I also put the maximum amount of line on the drum. It's easier to furl when the drum is full (the line is coming off a larger diameter full drum) than when it's less than full. Also, keep some tension on the furling line when letting out the jib, also recommende

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-12 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
kley Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line Jonathan, You are correct there isn't a direct correlation between furling line length and foot length. As I previously stated mine happens to be roughly 1:1 averaged over the entire furl. I am simply visually approximating the diameter

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-13 Thread David via CnC-List
Once you get the length figured out, get rid of the core for that portion that will be on the drum. The cover can handle the load and it lies nice and flat in the drum. No more tangles... David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) Date: Sat, 11 Jun 2016 20:29:43 -0400 To: cnc-list@cn

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-13 Thread Daniel Sheer via CnC-List
Just replaced the furler line on Pegathy. 145% Genoa on an LF38 80' of 3/8 double braid. Works well, 10' tail when unfurled, figure 8 to hold the line on the drum. A bit more than a half foot of stretch under load when reefed, I figure. That's less than a half turn of the drum. I figure that if

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
Shouldn't it also change as the drum wrap gets thicker?RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL From: Indigo via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Indigo Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:48 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line I may be totally wrong, but I don't th

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Bill Bina - gmail via CnC-List
30-1 STL *From:* Indigo via CnC-List *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Cc:* Indigo *Sent:* Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:48 AM *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line I may be totally wrong, but I don't think there is a direct correlati

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Wild Cheri > C&C 30-1 > STL > > > > From: Indigo via CnC-List <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Cc: Indigo mailto:ind...@thethomsons.us>> > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:48 AM > Subject

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
wrote: > > Shouldn't it also change as the drum wrap gets thicker? > Ron > Wild Cheri > C&C 30-1 > STL > > > > From: Indigo via CnC-List > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: Indigo > Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:48 AM > Subject: Re: Stus-List

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Shouldn't it also change as the drum wrap gets thicker? > Ron > Wild Cheri > C&C 30-1 > STL > > > > -------------- > *From:* Indigo via CnC-Li

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List
For Fred's sake you should have used the calculus!Nice calc using averages.RonWild CheriC&C 30-1STL From: Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 1:02 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line Me

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Chuck Gilchrest via CnC-List
1983 LF 35 Padanaram, MA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel Aronson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:06 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line Chuck, Why not measure from the mid-point

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
> Chuck Gilchrest > > Half Magic > > 1983 LF 35 > > Padanaram, MA > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Joel > Aronson via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2:06 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:*

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Richard N. Bush via CnC-List
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Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List
I'm really low tech - hoist the sail at the dock, connect the furling line .. roll the sail up by hand (by manually rotating the drum) .. go a few extra turns - to someone else's point, undoing jib sheets later is easy if need be. You guys are overthinking it :) (probably I'm underthinking it) I

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread David via CnC-List
Jun 2016 14:59:16 -0400 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com CC: joel.aron...@gmail.com Never heard of removing the core. Sounds stupid! I could see stripping cover. If the line is as long as the boat, you are probably OK. Joel On Tue

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
Samsung device over Canada's largest network. Original message From: Stevan Plavsa via CnC-List Date: 2016/06/21 14:11 (GMT-07:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Stevan Plavsa Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line I'm really low tech - hoist the sail at the doc

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
21 12:19 (GMT-07:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Chuck Gilchrest Subject: Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line Joel, You could use the mid point as an average, but I also leave 3 or 4 wraps of rope around the drum when the jib is fully furled just to have a margin of error when the jib is fu

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
>> Chuck Gilchrest >> >> Half Magic >> >> 1983 LF 35 >> >> Padanaram, MA >> >> >> >> From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Joel >> Aronson via CnC-List >> Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2016 2

Re: Stus-List Roller Furling Line

2016-06-21 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
&C 30-1 STL -- From: Indigo via CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Indigo mailto:ind...@thethomsons.us Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 6:48 AM Subject: Re: Stus-List Rolle