Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing

2022-09-13 Thread Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List
I don't normally have any headsails aboard but my furling genoa. Like most cruising boats, it gets used rolled all the way out, hardly any of it out, and everything in between. The boat is obviously faster with the racing sails that don't have a big round obstacle as a luff assuming I have the

Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing

2022-09-12 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
PM To: CnC CnC discussion list Cc: David Knecht Subject: Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing Thanks for all the input. I have 110 and 145 laminate genoas. In the past, with >2 crew, I used the 145 until Fall when the winds were strong, but as I have done more and m

Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing

2022-09-12 Thread David Knecht via CnC-List
Thanks for all the input. I have 110 and 145 laminate genoas. In the past, with >2 crew, I used the 145 until Fall when the winds were strong, but as I have done more and more single-handed racing (non-spinnaker) in the last few years, I found the 110 was much easier to handle upwind, so I am

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2022-09-12 Thread ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List
When I was still racing, I used non-furling sails. I started with a 152; then switched to a 135, and finally to a 110. Each switch gave me a higher PHRF rating. Switching to a 135 gave me six seconds more, and the 110 gave me an additional three seconds. Going from a 135 to a 110 cost me very

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2022-09-12 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Furl the genny from 150% to say 130% on the very last bit of the downwind leg just before the rounding. Put dark tape about 6 inches long vertically upward from the foot that corresponds to 130% or 110% headsail when furled. I found there was no real benefit to moving the roller cars to adjust the

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2022-09-12 Thread John McCrea via CnC-List
David, On my Doyle Genoa I have three blue dots at the foot to allow me to reef it down to smaller sizes. It was designed that way by the sailmaker and works quite well. I am adding adjustable genoa cars from Garhauer so can move the genoa leads. John McCrea Talisman 1979 36-1

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2022-09-12 Thread John Irvin via CnC-List
; Jeffrey A. Laman Subject: Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing David, Reefing the genoa on a furler is routine where I sail and race. I reef my main first, then reef my 135 second. Typically when wind is about 15mph+ I keep about 5 winds on the furler, making the headsail about 110

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2022-09-12 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
Even a broken clock is correct twice a day. From: Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 10:40 AM To: Stus-List Cc: Hoyt, Mike ; Jeffrey A. Laman Subject: Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing David, Reefing the genoa on a furler is routine

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2022-09-12 Thread Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List
The sail and the furler should be fine (as someone already said, a furling genoa normally is designed to be partially furled). The shape of the sail might be an issue. Try it furled a bit and check for the shape. If it is baggy in the middle, you know that it is not going to work well. Well

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2022-09-12 Thread Matthew via CnC-List
In my case, the genoa doesn’t look right or perform well partially unfurled. In addition, the forestay bends in a way I don’t like -- the force does not appear to be evenly distributed. Matt Wolford C 42 Custom From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Monday, September 12, 2022 10:12

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2022-09-12 Thread CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List
We raced upwind with a foot or so of genoa furled several times. The furler line once secured, will be fine. FWIW, I had mine secured to a camcleat without trouble but Harken prefers it to be cleated and provide a 4" cleat with their furler kits. Had to look up the J27 on Sailboatdata.

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2022-09-12 Thread Wyatt via CnC-List
Not good for the sail...reinforcement is around the edges (leech/luff/foot) not in the middle. On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:30 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > FWIW My first move is to reef the main upwind, even with a foam luff > gennie. > > Joel > > On Mon, Sep 12,

Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing

2022-09-12 Thread Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
ubject: Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing Hi David First I find it unusual to hear of a J27 with a furling genoa. We had a J27 that came that way and it was the only one I knew of. Our furling genoa was awful to use when racing anyway so we would ignore the furler and ta

Stus-List Re: Partially furling the genoa when racing

2022-09-12 Thread Joel Aronson via CnC-List
FWIW My first move is to reef the main upwind, even with a foam luff gennie. Joel On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:25 AM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Hi David > > > > First I find it unusual to hear of a J27 with a furling genoa. We had a > J27 that came that way and it

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2022-09-12 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
Hi David First I find it unusual to hear of a J27 with a furling genoa. We had a J27 that came that way and it was the only one I knew of. Our furling genoa was awful to use when racing anyway so we would ignore the furler and tack our racing sails to the deck below the drum. Eventually