[Moderator] - List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-07-27 Thread CocoaDev Admins
iPhone SDK -- Until an announcement is made otherwise, developers should be aware that the iPhone SDK is still under non-disclosure (section 5.3 of the iPhone Development Agreement). It can't be discussed here, or anywhere publicly. This includes other mailing lists, forums, and

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-27 Thread Jens Alfke
On 26 Jun '08, at 11:36 AM, Hamish Allan wrote: What we really need is for the cocoa-dev list admin page to require new subscribers to type in the phrase I will not make posts about the iPhone or Snow Leopard :) No, you've bought into the whole reality distortion field. What we _really_

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-27 Thread Omar Qazi
On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:01 PM, Jens Alfke wrote: No, you've bought into the whole reality distortion field. What we _really_ need is for Apple to allow developer discussion of NDA'ed products. If there were an *Ph*n* mailing list on this server, and if that list were mentioned in the SDK or

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Harrington
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:01 AM, Jens Alfke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 26 Jun '08, at 11:36 AM, Hamish Allan wrote: What we really need is for the cocoa-dev list admin page to require new subscribers to type in the phrase I will not make posts about the iPhone or Snow Leopard :) No,

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-27 Thread Devon Ferns
I agree. It's not like what's in the SDK is super secret. Anyone can download it. Devon Tom Harrington wrote: Oh, they do allow it, despite what the moderators here say. You just have to use the appropriate Apple forum. Apple's support forums have a developer section with no shortage of

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-27 Thread Scott Anguish
On Jun 27, 2008, at 11:17 AM, Tom Harrington wrote: Oh, they do allow it, despite what the moderators here say. I'm not just making these rules up as I go because it's what I want. These are the rules provided by WWDR and others. You just have to use the appropriate Apple forum. Apple's

[Moderator] Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-27 Thread Scott Anguish
On Jun 27, 2008, at 11:25 AM, Devon Ferns wrote: I agree. It's not like what's in the SDK is super secret. Anyone can download it. Devon You can only download it after accepting to the confidentiality agreement. Believe it or not, there are people who can't, or won't, download it

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-27 Thread Steve Christensen
On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:25 AM, Devon Ferns wrote: I agree. It's not like what's in the SDK is super secret. Anyone can download it. Yeah, anyone can download it, but in order to download it, you have to go through the process of accepting a license agreement that includes a NDA

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-26 Thread Hamish Allan
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 4:51 PM, Scott Anguish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Discussing NDA Projects (Snow Leopard and iPhone OS) and Private API This list is not an appropriate forum for the discussion of issues that are

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-26 Thread Scott Ribe
What we really need is for the cocoa-dev list admin page to require new subscribers to type in the phrase I will not make posts about the iPhone or Snow Leopard :) You know, I think that's a good idea. Either there, or where downloading the iPhone SDK, rather than just click to acknowledge,

Re: [Moderator] List Guidelines - Must Read

2008-06-26 Thread mmalc Crawford
On Jun 26, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Hamish Allan wrote: Making these general posts repeatedly seems to me to be pretty futile. Those who post iPhone questions here are presumably those who have signed up five minutes beforehand for the purpose. The fact that they post without reading the FAQ or

[Moderator] List Guidelines - MUST READ

2008-06-15 Thread Scott Anguish
Please stay on-topic There are currently more than 4000 subscribers to this list and several hundred messages posted per day. In order to keep the list useful please stay on topic and stick to technical discussion. Cocoa-dev should not be the first place you turn when