Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread jonat...@mugginsoft.com
On 29 Nov 2012, at 01:44, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Greg Parker gpar...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: Perhaps, although I'm somewhat unsure of what VC is for, if not for making

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:39 AM, jonat...@mugginsoft.com jonat...@mugginsoft.com wrote: Interactive rebasing is quite straightforward. # fiddle with the last 10 commits git rebase -i HEAD~10 I think that what Greg was referring to was the fact that it can't be done from within Xcode without

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 03:51 AM, Charles Srstka wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:39 AM, jonat...@mugginsoft.com jonat...@mugginsoft.com wrote: Interactive rebasing is quite straightforward. # fiddle with the last 10 commits git rebase -i HEAD~10 I think that what Greg was referring

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 03:51 AM, Charles Srstka wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 4:39 AM, jonat...@mugginsoft.com jonat...@mugginsoft.com wrote: Interactive rebasing is quite straightforward. # fiddle with the last 10 commits

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: One might argue that it would be a good idea for Xcode to offer the ability to commit snapshots to a branch on the git repo to which all the

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: One might argue that it would be a good idea for Xcode to offer the ability to

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 11:16 AM, Charles Srstka wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 1:08 PM, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 9:48 AM, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: One might

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Yi Lin
Wow, what a response for a simple post. I do use Git, and take advantaging of its staging abilities. But sometimes, I want to do some quick experiments and want to get back to a previous state. Kind of like undoing with Command-Z except it involves multiple files. Yes, theoretically, Git can do

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Thu, Nov 29, 2012, at 12:02 PM, Yi Lin wrote: Wow, what a response for a simple post. That said, the responses should probably cease, since this post is really appropriate for xcode-users, not this list. --Kyle Sluder ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-29 Thread Richard Somers
I use Git and have a work flow similar to what you are describing. My git commits are usually frequent, focused and sometimes staged. But I also manually copy the entire project folder or repository at various points in time and put it in a manual backup or history folder. I usually keep the

Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Yi Lin
I have tried using Snapshot as a way to undo my project to a previous state, sort of like a powered-up version of undo, but it never works for me. When I attempt to restore to a previous snapshot, even after minor change, Xcode just crash. I am using the latest Xcode, and have tried this on at

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Yi Lin yionco...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried using Snapshot as a way to undo my project to a previous state, sort of like a powered-up version of undo, but it never works for me. When I attempt to restore to a previous snapshot, even after minor change, Xcode

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Roland King
On 29 Nov, 2012, at 6:45 AM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Yi Lin yionco...@gmail.com wrote: I have tried using Snapshot as a way to undo my project to a previous state, sort of like a powered-up version of undo, but it never works for me.

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: Mostly an easy automated crutch for people who find git and svn a bit too technical. But this is a *developer tool*! By its very nature, it has to be technical. Charles ___ Cocoa-dev

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 28, 2012, at 14:58 , Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: On 29 Nov, 2012, at 6:45 AM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: I must confess that I've never really understood the purpose of Snapshot. What does it provide that git and svn don't already? Mostly an easy automated

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:08 PM, Quincey Morris quinceymor...@rivergatesoftware.com wrote: Do you commit before every replace and every refactor? ... yes? Charles ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 28, 2012, at 15:21 , Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: ... yes? That's pretty impressive, though perhaps it's more indicative of mental mastery over self than technical mastery over git? ___ Cocoa-dev mailing list

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Marco S Hyman
On Nov 28, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Quincey Morris quinceymor...@rivergatesoftware.com wrote: Mostly an easy automated crutch for people who find git and svn a bit too technical. Oh, come on! If you're prepared to commit your changes before *every* global search/replace and *every* refactor

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Alex Zavatone
On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:02 PM, Charles Srstka wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:58 PM, Roland King r...@rols.org wrote: Mostly an easy automated crutch for people who find git and svn a bit too technical. But this is a *developer tool*! By its very nature, it has to be technical. Charles

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Quincey Morris
On Nov 28, 2012, at 15:55 , Marco S Hyman m...@snafu.org wrote: Written by someone who doe not appreciate the benefits of git staging and the index. I will stage changes in a tree (git add) that may not be quite ready for a commit before doing something that I may not like and want to undo.

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Quincey Morris quinceymor...@rivergatesoftware.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 15:21 , Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: ... yes? That's pretty impressive, though perhaps it's more indicative of mental mastery over self than technical mastery

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Kyle Sluder
On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Quincey Morris quinceymor...@rivergatesoftware.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 15:21 , Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: ... yes? That's pretty impressive, though

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 28, 2012, at 6:57 PM, Kyle Sluder k...@ksluder.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:38 PM, Quincey Morris quinceymor...@rivergatesoftware.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 15:21 , Charles Srstka

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Greg Parker
On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: Perhaps, although I'm somewhat unsure of what VC is for, if not for making it possible to compare and revert changes that might possibly have ill effects. Version control is also intended to communicate and coordinate

Re: Does anyone find Restore Snapshot kind of weak?

2012-11-28 Thread Charles Srstka
On Nov 28, 2012, at 7:39 PM, Greg Parker gpar...@apple.com wrote: On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:28 PM, Charles Srstka cocoa...@charlessoft.com wrote: Perhaps, although I'm somewhat unsure of what VC is for, if not for making it possible to compare and revert changes that might possibly have ill