Re: [proposal] a new kind of 'dist'

2003-03-26 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Monday 24 March 2003 19:13, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > This is not a run for market share. Isn't it??? The day the flow of developers goes towards .NET, the Java advantage will disappear as well, the community will dry up of fresh blood. The attitude "We don't want new people use our product

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-26 Thread Christopher Oliver
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: maybe you are not aware of the fact that Cocoon is divided between two schools: - the generator-oriented - the transformer-oriented I think I reside on the first school since generators are much harder to *abuse* than transformers. I can think of at least one other re

Re: Cocoon-2.1-dev build fails

2003-03-26 Thread David Crossley
Geoff Howard wrote: > Vadim wrote: > >Geoff Howard wrote: > >>Vadim wrote: > >>>Geoff Howard wrote: > ### wrote: > >Unfortunately, when validate-jars was put back in, an override mechanism > >wasn't added so you're stuck manually editing the build file for now. > > > >I'll be

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation ofcocoon-docs CVS module]

2003-03-26 Thread David Crossley
Steven Noels wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > > > I think that the murkiness is a result of not having > > a proposal and subsequent discussion before calling > > a vote. > > Hm. Could be, although this particular subject has been discussed, > semi-proposed and whatnot already at some serious

Re: new Cocoon committers: Savory, Howard

2003-03-26 Thread David Crossley
Many thanks for setting those up so quickly. Andrew and Geoff, please see the following URLs for some background info for new committers: http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html http://incubator.apache.org/drafts/ There are also various "cvs over ssh" guidelines on those pages and here is anothe

Re: new Cocoon committers: Savory, Howard

2003-03-26 Thread Brian Behlendorf
Accounts created, passwords sent, commit privs granted. Should we move the cocoon mailing lists over to cocoon.apache.org at some point? Brian On Wed, 27 Mar 2003, David Crossley wrote: > Hello root, please add accounts for these two new > Cocoon committers. > > They need availability f

Re: CVS question

2003-03-26 Thread David Morris
I guess the Eclipse developers anticipated your error. You should find an option under Team that says "Change ASCII/Binary Property...". David Morris >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/03 09:26AM >>> a CVS question now :) if I incorrectly checked it a text file as binary (well, I didn't, it's eclips

new Cocoon committers: Savory, Howard

2003-03-26 Thread David Crossley
Hello root, please add accounts for these two new Cocoon committers. They need availability for all Cocoon CVSs. In the past, Cocoon committers also had access to xml-site and xml-commons - not sure what the situation is now that Cocoon is a top-level project.

little problem with new build system

2003-03-26 Thread Joerg Heinicke
Hello Cocooners, I updated my local copy of Cocoon 2.1 with the current Fop release 0.20.5rc2. I updated the entry in jars.xml, but a CVS update always brings back the fop-0.20.4.jar. When building I get the following *warning*, which leads to *build failed* at the end, because of . Must the bu

Re: entity catalog problem

2003-03-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Jeremy Quinn wrote: Hi All I am converting a legacy Cocoon 2.0 site to Cocoon 2.1. Since when it became legacy? :) I have documents with the following DOCTYPE declaration: Correct me if I'm wrong, but from http://www.w3.org/TR/1998/REC-xml-19980210#dt-sysid I got an impression th

entity catalog problem

2003-03-26 Thread Jeremy Quinn
Hi All I am converting a legacy Cocoon 2.0 site to Cocoon 2.1. I have documents with the following DOCTYPE declaration: With the following entries in my catalog: SYSTEM "urn:kiss:linkmap" "linkmap.dtd" SYSTEM "urn:kiss:doc" "doc.dtd" PUBLIC "-//KISS//DTD

Re: why do we have two http proxy generators?

2003-03-26 Thread Geoff Howard
At 02:37 PM 3/26/2003, Tony Collen wrote: Stefano Wrote: > > we currently have two of them: one in the trunk and another one in a > > block. Also, it seems that the one in the trunk is broken. > > I would like to move the proxy-related samples into the proxy block and > > also remove the one fro

Re: why do we have two http proxy generators?

2003-03-26 Thread Tony Collen
Stefano Wrote: > > we currently have two of them: one in the trunk and another one in a > > block. Also, it seems that the one in the trunk is broken. > > I would like to move the proxy-related samples into the proxy block and > > also remove the one from the trunk. > > > > Anybody against this

Re: Flow samples broken

2003-03-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Christopher Oliver wrote: >> The flow samples seem to be broken. The Documentation link links to an >> examples page, and the Examples link is a dead link. And where did the >> documentation go? > > wops. my bad, will fix it in a few hours when I c

Re: why do we have two http proxy generators?

2003-03-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"Stefano Mazzocchi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > we currently have two of them: one in the trunk and another one in a > block. Also, it seems that the one in the trunk is broken. Yes, I know, they're fairly different. The one in the trunk actually downloads the data into a string and parses that.

why do we have two http proxy generators?

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
we currently have two of them: one in the trunk and another one in a block. Also, it seems that the one in the trunk is broken. I would like to move the proxy-related samples into the proxy block and also remove the one from the trunk. Anybody against this? Stefano.

Re: Flow samples broken

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Christopher Oliver wrote: The flow samples seem to be broken. The Documentation link links to an examples page, and the Examples link is a dead link. And where did the documentation go? wops. my bad, will fix it in a few hours when I commit the samples completely refactored. Stefano.

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-26 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 09:32 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: In other words, just enough to navigate through the contents of the "bean" object passed from the flow layer, in order to render output. you have velocity and xsp that provide that functionality, why do you want another one in th

Re: Cut off from mailing list a bit too fast...

2003-03-26 Thread Brian Behlendorf
/var/qmail/control/queuelifetime on daedalus is set to 18, which is the number of seconds beyond which an email is bounced as undeliverable. When a message bounces, it's recorded by qmail; after ten days of bounces, a probe is sent, and if that probe bounces, *then* the user is unsubscribed.

Flow samples broken

2003-03-26 Thread Christopher Oliver
The flow samples seem to be broken. The Documentation link links to an examples page, and the Examples link is a dead link. And where did the documentation go? Regards, Chris

Wiki grammar selft-test created

2003-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I have added a self-describing test of the Chaperon Wiki grammar under src/blocks/chaperon/samples, accessible from http://localhost:/samples/chaperon/wikitest/selftest.html . Reading the resulting document tells you about the test results. Please add test cases if you discover or know about

Re: Scratchpad PetStore Sample and XMLForm

2003-03-26 Thread Christopher Oliver
leo leonid wrote: Christopher Oliver writes: Thanks, Leo. OK. I committed your changes. But shouldn't there be a reusable template for translating XMLForm controls to html, that could be "plugged" into your application somehow, rather than having to incorporate it into the application's style

Re: Scratchpad PetStore Sample and XMLForm

2003-03-26 Thread leo leonid
Christopher Oliver writes: > Thanks, Leo. > > OK. I committed your changes. But shouldn't there be a reusable template > for translating XMLForm controls to html, that could be "plugged" into > your application somehow, rather than having to incorporate it into the > application's stylesheet(

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-26 Thread Christopher Oliver
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: Yesterday, I was trying to create another view for the flow layer, similar to a subset of JSTL, using Jexl Just one question: why transformers? maybe you are not aware of the fact that C

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/language/markup/xsp/javaxsp.xsl

2003-03-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Marcus Crafter wrote: Hi Vadim, Does the attached patch fix it ? No. You forgot type cast :) this.manager.release((Component)this.captureParser); I don't have a test case for the logic sheet. Take simple.xsp, replace fragment-variable with dom-variable: These 2 paragraphs were generate

Re: I18nTransformater does not work in j2ee enviroment

2003-03-26 Thread Konstantin Piroumian
The limitation you are indicating was removed in Cocoon 2.1. If you are using the 2.0 version then try to throw away that couple of out-dated lines of code and everything should work. Regards, Konstantin From: "kristian meier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hi, > > this application works fine on a stan

Re: Cocoon-2.1-dev build fails

2003-03-26 Thread Geoff Howard
At 10:40 AM 3/26/2003, you wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: At 09:50 AM 3/26/2003, you wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Unfortunately, when validate-jars was put back in, an override mechanism wasn't added so you're stuck manually editing the build file for now. I'll be submitting a patch to first of all ad

RE: Accessing parent sitemaps with cocoon:../

2003-03-26 Thread Nathaniel Alfred
> >Jeff Turner wrote: > >>Hi, > >>The current sitemap is available through cocoon:/foo > >>Root sitemap is available through cocoon://foo > >>How about making parent sitemaps available through cocoon:../foo, > >>cocoon:../../foo, etc? I suggest that the syntax should be cocoon:/../foo, cocoon:/..

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/language/markup/xsp/javaxsp.xsl

2003-03-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: crafterm2003/03/26 07:37:09 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/language/markup/xsp/java xsp.xsl Log: * Removed nonexistant import (causes xsp compilation error when using the eclipse java compiler). Revision Changes

Re: Cocoon-2.1-dev build fails

2003-03-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Geoff Howard wrote: At 09:50 AM 3/26/2003, you wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Unfortunately, when validate-jars was put back in, an override mechanism wasn't added so you're stuck manually editing the build file for now. I'll be submitting a patch to first of all add the override mechanism so tha

Re: XML Script in Rhino

2003-03-26 Thread Christopher Oliver
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: From http://dev2dev.bea.com/articles/Dietzen__Goland.jsp: ...BEA and its partners have submitted a reference implementation of the XML Script technology now being standardized in ECMA to Mozilla's Rhino project. XML Script is a new technology that

Re: Cocoon-2.1-dev build fails

2003-03-26 Thread Geoff Howard
At 09:50 AM 3/26/2003, you wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Unfortunately, when validate-jars was put back in, an override mechanism wasn't added so you're stuck manually editing the build file for now. I'll be submitting a patch to first of all add the override mechanism so that this won't trip people

I18nTransformater does not work in j2ee enviroment

2003-03-26 Thread kristian meier
Hi, this application works fine on a standalone tomcat, but not on jboss with tomcat. the reason is quiet obvious: the configuration of the I18nTransformater ask for the location of the catalogs for the different locales. (in the sitemap) in the code itself this location is resolved and than c

Re: Cocoon-2.1-dev build fails

2003-03-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Geoff Howard wrote: Unfortunately, when validate-jars was put back in, an override mechanism wasn't added so you're stuck manually editing the build file for now. I'll be submitting a patch to first of all add the override mechanism so that this won't trip people up until the target is fixed. Umm.

Re: Cut off from mailing list a bit too fast...

2003-03-26 Thread Pier Fumagalli
"Niclas Hedhman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > My mailserver had to change IP numbers on Monday evening here (due to a > spammer on the same C-block of numbers), and it took about 36hours for those > changes to spread in the DNS system on the net. > > During this period, it seems that I have be

Re: Cut off from mailing list a bit too fast...

2003-03-26 Thread Steven Noels
On 26/03/2003 9:09 Niclas Hedhman wrote: My mailserver had to change IP numbers on Monday evening here (due to a spammer on the same C-block of numbers), and it took about 36hours for those changes to spread in the DNS system on the net. During this period, it seems that I have been unsubscribe

Re: Accessing parent sitemaps with cocoon:../

2003-03-26 Thread Geoff Howard
At 09:25 AM 3/26/2003, you wrote: Jeff Turner wrote: Hi, The current sitemap is available through cocoon:/foo Root sitemap is available through cocoon://foo How about making parent sitemaps available through cocoon:../foo, cocoon:../../foo, etc? Context: I'm currently trying to get Forrest working

Re: XML Script in Rhino

2003-03-26 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: From http://dev2dev.bea.com/articles/Dietzen__Goland.jsp: ...BEA and its partners have submitted a reference implementation of the XML Script technology now being standardized in ECMA to Mozilla's Rhino project. XML Script is a new technology that makes XML a native data

Re: CVS question (OT:eclipse on osx)

2003-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 15:22 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ...you can get the english keyboard as a spare part and change it within a few seconds. Too late for me - the local keyboard layout was engraved in my brain s long ago ;-) In the meantime they fixed the keyboard

Cut off from mailing list a bit too fast...

2003-03-26 Thread Niclas Hedhman
My mailserver had to change IP numbers on Monday evening here (due to a spammer on the same C-block of numbers), and it took about 36hours for those changes to spread in the DNS system on the net. During this period, it seems that I have been unsubscribed from all Apache mailing lists. Isn't t

Re: Accessing parent sitemaps with cocoon:../

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Jeff Turner wrote: Hi, The current sitemap is available through cocoon:/foo Root sitemap is available through cocoon://foo How about making parent sitemaps available through cocoon:../foo, cocoon:../../foo, etc? Context: I'm currently trying to get Forrest working in samples/forrest, and find myse

Re: CVS question (OT:eclipse on osx)

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I'm evaluating IntelliJ's idea product (payware) which looks real good and is very fast, even though it is also written in java. Right now I have an issue with [] and {} on my keyboard, but apart from that I'll probably go for it. you can get the english keyboard as a

XML Script in Rhino

2003-03-26 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
From http://dev2dev.bea.com/articles/Dietzen__Goland.jsp: ...BEA and its partners have submitted a reference implementation of the XML Script technology now being standardized in ECMA to Mozilla's Rhino project. XML Script is a new technology that makes XML a native data type of JavaScript/ECMAS

Re: wiki parser (was Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more)

2003-03-26 Thread Stephan Michels
On 26 Mar 2003, Bruno Dumon wrote: > On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 11:52, Stephan Michels wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > > > > Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 11:24 Europe/Zurich, Jeff Turner a écrit : > > > > > > > ...Getting the latest Chaperon updates was a major impetus f

Accessing parent sitemaps with cocoon:../

2003-03-26 Thread Jeff Turner
Hi, The current sitemap is available through cocoon:/foo Root sitemap is available through cocoon://foo How about making parent sitemaps available through cocoon:../foo, cocoon:../../foo, etc? Context: I'm currently trying to get Forrest working in samples/forrest, and find myself having to hardc

wiki parser (was Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more)

2003-03-26 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Wed, 2003-03-26 at 11:52, Stephan Michels wrote: > On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > > > Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 11:24 Europe/Zurich, Jeff Turner a écrit : > > > > > ...Getting the latest Chaperon updates was a major impetus for the > > > recent > > > Cocoon upgrade. Wiki

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-26 Thread Stephan Michels
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 11:24 Europe/Zurich, Jeff Turner a écrit : > > > ...Getting the latest Chaperon updates was a major impetus for the > > recent > > Cocoon upgrade. Wiki parsing is just waiting for a volunteer... > > Do you mean Chape

Re: CVS question (OT:eclipse on osx)

2003-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 11:39 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ...yes, eclipse is a pig on osx, but I do have a 1Ghz G4 to push it :) so do I ;-) and I'm used to slow editing (actually slower IDEs increase your produtivity by forcing you to think more and do less try/fail cycles)

DO NOT REPLY [Bug 18331] - LinkRewriterTransformer ignores exclude-schemes parameter

2003-03-26 Thread bugzilla
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Re: CVS question (OT:eclipse on osx)

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 10:51 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using Eclipse 2.1 or 2.0.2 you can click (right) on a file or directory and select "Team/Change ASCII Binary Property...". ah, cool, I missed that. Thanks much.

Re: tallying [Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docsCVS module]

2003-03-26 Thread Steven Noels
On 26/03/2003 7:02 David Crossley wrote: I think that the murkiness is a result of not having a proposal and subsequent discussion before calling a vote. Hm. Could be, although this particular subject has been discussed, semi-proposed and whatnot already at some serious length in the past, the u

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 11:24 Europe/Zurich, Jeff Turner a écrit : ...Getting the latest Chaperon updates was a major impetus for the recent Cocoon upgrade. Wiki parsing is just waiting for a volunteer... Do you mean Chaperon has been improved for better wiki parsing? I might have a need fo

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-26 Thread Stephan Michels
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Jeff Turner wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:08:39AM +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > ... > > Moreover, to be honest, I think that we should aim to improve > > forrest/lenya and make it a structured wiki and setup a CMS and point > > users to that for editing. > > Getting

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Christopher Oliver wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Christopher Oliver wrote: Yesterday, I was trying to create another view for the flow layer, similar to a subset of JSTL, using Jexl http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/jexl I started with Marcus Crafter's JPathTransformer, and in the process o

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-26 Thread Konstantin Piroumian
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Hi Chris, > > > > > Then I came across Volker Schmitt's taglib in the scratchpad which looks > > like exactly what I wanted: > > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=102227009022017&w=2 > > > In my opinion, given the Cocoon flow layer and Cocoon's sup

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-26 Thread Jeff Turner
On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 11:08:39AM +0100, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: ... > Moreover, to be honest, I think that we should aim to improve > forrest/lenya and make it a structured wiki and setup a CMS and point > users to that for editing. Getting the latest Chaperon updates was a major impetus for

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-26 Thread Stephan Michels
On Wed, 26 Mar 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > >>1) we remove all the old docs targets from the build > > > > > > To remove the "build docs" target, i agree. > > To remove the webapp docs generation, i do not agree. > > Ok. > > >>2) documenta

Re: CVS question (OT:eclipse on osx)

2003-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 10:51 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using Eclipse 2.1 or 2.0.2 you can click (right) on a file or directory and select "Team/Change ASCII Binary Property...". ah, cool, I missed that. Thanks much. Just curious, are you using ecli

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 26 mars 2003, à 10:45 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : So, the proposal is not about forcing docu-oriented people as second-class citizens, but potentially allowing people (or services) that *request* or *need* to be docu-oriented-only to be able to be given karma l

Re: [vote] Forrestizing Cocoon and more

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
David Crossley wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Stephan Michels wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: So, at the end, here is what I propose: 1) we remove all the old docs targets from the build To remove the "build docs" target, i agree. To remove the webapp docs generation, i do not agree. Ok. 2

Re: CVS question

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: using Eclipse 2.1 or 2.0.2 you can click (right) on a file or directory and select "Team/Change ASCII Binary Property...". ah, cool, I missed that. Thanks much. Stefano.

Re: cvs commit: cocoon-2.1/src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/flowinvalidContinuation.xml

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
David Crossley wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Modified: src/documentation/xdocs/userdocs/flow invalidContinuation.xml Log: * Fixing build (file fails validation) -"../../WEB-INF/entities/document-v10.dtd"> +"../../../WEB-INF/entities/document-v10.dtd">

Re: [vote] micro-decision for docs: creation of cocoon-docs CVS module

2003-03-26 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
David Crossley wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Pier Fumagalli wrote: Folks, do you know that there's the possibility to alias certain subparts of a particular CVS repository from another repository? Like "cocoon-2.1/src/docs" can be stored in the "cocoon-docs" repository. Apache does it alread

Re: Flow views, scratchpad taglib, and writing transformers

2003-03-26 Thread volker . schmitt
Hi Chris, > Then I came across Volker Schmitt's taglib in the scratchpad which looks > like exactly what I wanted: > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=102227009022017&w=2 > In my opinion, given the Cocoon flow layer and Cocoon's support for XSL, > we don't don't need extensive