On 30/06/2003 15:59 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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First commit ;-)
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On 26/06/2003 12:33 yachting heritage wrote:
how could we avoid to received your bloody mail?
sorry, didn't meant to moderate that one through :-|
trying to remotely unsubscribe this friendly person...
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hings... 8-)
+1
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CH] in Bugzilla for
peer review, fine as well.
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jects leave incubation if they feel ready to defend their exit
intentions when needed? That's the way Tapestry has been following, with
Andy C. Oliver as their 'exit sponsor'.
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On 24/06/2003 13:38 Jeff Turner wrote:
I vote +1 and +/-0. Both make sense, but 2) seems slightly more pain than
gain, unless there's some advantage I've overlooked.
+1
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etween cubicles.
If anyone wants to see this changed, please speak up.
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mes. If I'm wrong with my observation, just say so and I'll
withdraw to my cave. ;-)
Thanks, Stefano. Is this a Cultural Revolution thing or what? Could you
please play the ball instead of the man?
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#x27;d love to hear your opinion.
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On 23/06/2003 11:18 John Morrison wrote:
Sure! Patches always welcome :)
Technically, all Lenya people have Cocoon CVS commit karma if I read the
avail file correctly.
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observation, will you? I'm not into
flames. If I'm wrong with my observation, just say so and I'll withdraw
to my cave. ;-)
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reading mail ATM, but I'll make sure to give
him the good news tonight when we're meeting for dinner. :-)
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Cocoon, what would tie it to Cocoon?
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On 19/06/2003 13:50 Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
Steven,
(you'd rolled back the change below but not this one)
Was this intended change?
Vadim
Nope - backstepped to the working version. Duh. :-)
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On 18/06/2003 8:41 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Do you really need a separate CVS repository?
Wouldn't the Cocoon scratchpad do?
If Garbage can fit into the Scratchpad (sounds like a MacOS desktop ;-)
it could be a lightweight way of incubating it.
+1, cfr. Linotype.
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what they should.
you didn't enable file uploading on web.xml
I'm going offline for brain surgery. ;-)
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On 17/06/2003 9:47 Steven Noels wrote:
On 17/06/2003 8:02 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
Linotype looks great but I'm not sure about the browser requirements.
IIUC from "welcome to Linotype" page, the editing mode only requires
Mozilla 1.3, is that right?
... and I've go
file:/C:/cocoon-2.1/build/webapp/samples/linotype/flow.js", line 115:
uncaught JavaScript exception: ReferenceError: "d" is not defined.
(file:/C:/cocoon-2.1/build/webapp/samples/linotype/flow.js; line 115)
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I quickly updated cocoon.apache.org this morning so that Lenya now
finally is listed as an incubating sub-project.
That frontpage website is still very rude, but at least we can now
safily refer to cocoon.apache.org as the canonical Cocoon & subprojects URI.
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ng, but then again I don't mind waiting for another couple
of months.
So, my question is: what do people _want_ to see finished in 2.1? FOM?
New portal FW? Form FW consolidation? Anything else?
I'm just curious, really.
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On 13/06/2003 21:18 Joerg Heinicke wrote:
If the FOM implementer themselves are of this opinion, let's go ahead
and release Cocoon 2.1 as soon as possible.
Does it need a vote?
It normally does, would you mind starting it?
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its original creators and founders, through a diverse group of active
committers, some fresh blood trickling in now and then, a sense of
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be prominently noted on Lenya's
homepage that it is an Apache Cocoon project _under incubation_.
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the Xalan
folks are not very active in applying patches, too.
But still, people who want to make use of XSLTC will be happy to see it
being made easily usable.
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ssionid=*** are served through Cocoon. The version
is 2.0.1 IIRC.
Of course I believe you. :-)
I was basically using livehttpheaders and checked some pages on each
site - surprisingly boring work ;-)
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wich caterer, but that's largely
off-topic, I guess. The guy doesn't even know his shop name is used in
org.apache... package names. ;-D
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is, but if I'm right,
that means a vital part of the flow system, central to Cocoon-post-2.0,
is not under public source control. This worries me a lot.
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On 6/06/2003 15:00 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote:
It was mentioned last year here:
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=103675234921735&w=2
Uh. I guess memory starts fading away when approaching 33. How do you
cope? Better than I do, apparently. ;-)
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nt, and I'm left
with the builders dilemma; how to redress the architecture
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Respectfully,
Dennis Dickens,
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ance is by leading the way. ;-)
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[PATCH] ExtendedXLinkPipe support for multiple XLinks per el
-> fine with me
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So far for some quick appreciation of all outstanding patches. Some will
need more work, and quite a good deal of those need further work fr
e less well tended due to being
one-man-shows.
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can be more specific on what exactly you plan to contribute,
we'll check with some license peeps in the Apache innards, but the
Cocoon PMC is ultimately responsable for legal oversight.
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On 4/04/2003 16:13 Upayavira wrote:
Do you have the rest?
The premature send is on purpose: we patched his MUA since we can't keep
up with the sheer volume of his mails. ;-D
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On 3/04/2003 8:52 Jeff Turner wrote:
Pity about losing the declarative processing model.
Cannot agree more. Declarative is great SoC.
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On 2/04/2003 21:13 Sylvain Wallez wrote:
We can easily guess that. Please, please add braces !!!
Bah. Syntactic sugar. "Who needs braces when you've got spaces!" ;-)
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="foo"
generate src="baa.xml"
transform src="too.xsl"
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On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
> If I try to to into /usr/serverlocal/gump and execute ./update.sh
> nothing happens. if I do ./build.sh I get a buch of 'permission denied'
> because I'm not into the cocoondev group.
You are, really. Use 'id' to check the groups you belong to. W.r
icted character set.
Is NEL (#x85) included in this restricted character set? Porting the
Whitespace Cocoon port to IBM mainframes could be troublesome otherwise.
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On 27/03/2003 14:48 Jeff Turner wrote:
No.. not more voting! ;)
How about we just *try* cocoon-docs. If it turns out to be a
sufficiently bad idea, scrap it.
Sigh.. suppose we have to vote on that. Can't win either way ;)
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syncing anymore.
Sigh. I assume this is some pattern in (community?) development: "at a
certain point in time, people will want to start from scratch in order
to proceed, and the historical past is only a burden then". Or is it
just my own laziness when it comes to proper refac
oon-docs\src\documentation\v2x
IIRC, you can't alias a dir to a _dir_ of another module, at least that
was what I was trying to do. Symlinking serverside will not work, I
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(follow up to cocoon-docs please)
On 24/03/2003 7:31 Steven Noels wrote:
In order to get one little step closer to the 'new' document
infrastructure, many of us seek clarity whether we should move docs to a
separate CVS module or not. The benefits and downfalls are largely
known
umentation and work on that using a binary install of Forrest.
5) (minor) some of the docs can hardly be concerned authorative
(http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/tutorial/index.html) and should not be in
Cocoon CVS
All in all, most of my playground them has to do with it 'being vac
ns however.
Then again, responding against user complaints is easier than inventing
from scratch a new build/dist system which makes both our and the user's
life easier. So let's get over with this, and see what the users think.
They've been kept out of the loop for too long.
like 'we the doco people'. What I meant was the
'people usually contributing to documentation'. Some of them are
developers, some of them not.
My own belly tells me that people will write more and better user
documentation if they get some proper playground. Hav
a
_framework_ for developers, reality tells me it is actively used by
people who _don't_ want to program in order to do Java/XML-based websites.
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asing 2.1
+1
3) if so, I'd like a 'fast-yet-potentially-disruptive' move rather than
a 'slow-yet-carefully-planned-not-to-disrupt-anything' one.
+1
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On 24/03/2003 9:13 Sylvain Wallez wrote:
I've met Andrew IRL, and I can say is committment to Cocoon is real.
Yep. Ditto here: +1.
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s: don't forget the different Cocoon _versions_ are
now stored in separate modules, too.
Please cast your vote:
[ ] creation of cocoon-docs module
[ ] docs should stay in src/documentation of the code tree module(s)
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On 22/03/2003 17:20 Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Ah, Sam, Steven, how do I access that cocoon-special gump stuff on
cocoondev.org? that would likely reduce the try/fail cycle of 24 hours
that is driving me nuts!
(took this off-list)
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On 21/03/2003 21:42 Diana Shannon wrote:
On Friday, March 21, 2003, at 08:15 AM, Steven Noels wrote:
There's movement on the -docs list and perhaps also a Forrest quantum
leap blossoming, so we'd better do this before or after this assumably
disruptive step.
I also wanted to stat
http://dir.salon.com/?cocoon-reload=true and http://dir.salon.com/, I
assume this might be the case here.
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unny to see the mindreading going on again).
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On 21/03/2003 13:57 Geoff Howard wrote:
OK, gotta get back to work - I'm in the middle of a launch.
Be careful, rockets are nasty things these days.
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On 19/03/2003 23:42 Steven Noels wrote:
Completely unrelated to the technical discussion which is way above my
head, I found a nice weblog discussing graphical depictions of flow -
with a well-known and not too easy example:
Some further linking: http://www.jjg.net/ia/visvocab/
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t too easy example:
http://www.boxesandarrows.com/archives/yahoo_mail_simplicity_holds_up_over_time.php
If we ever need inspiration for that Flow editor in Cocoon 11.0 ... ;-)
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On 18/03/2003 15:25 Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
2nd rule: any selection of Matchers can be combined into a Selector :-D
Bzzzt!!! Funny but wrong :)
Matchers have side effect by returning map of values.
Aaargh - you're spoiling my joke :-)
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On 18/03/2003 15:12 Vadim Gritsenko wrote:
PS: RT: 1st rule of sitemap component equivalency: Every action could be
renamed to/rewritten as a matcher
Hehe.
2nd rule: any selection of Matchers can be combined into a Selector :-D
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d be better off putting all users
in one group (i.e. cocoondev).
On icarus/daedalus, each user has its own group as a primary group. I
assume the problem lives there, too, and that they solved this using
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group for serverwide, general stuff - I consider our
Gump installation to be such a precious thing.
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nment/isolation between projects however is based on the one
group/project thing, and since some people are bound to work on multiple
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ime to work on the flow and how it integrates
with the sitemap.
I don't think we should release anything flow-related before there is
*some* real documentation on it.
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necesseraly their primary group, so some chgrp might be needed when you
create new files.
Document root is /www/gump.cocoondev.org/webapps/ROOT which is owned by
rubys, group cocoondev
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ong mailing list
to discuss these items.
Looking good so far. This list is fine, if other people are not bored
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Original Message
Subject: Re: [heads-up] wiki abuse: your advice please
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 11:48:15 +0100
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ributions and patches. There's a live demo available on the project
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but still I'm worried that someone will come
and add image links to some nasty p0rn images, and that this will scare
off our regular community.
Your thoughts, please: what kind of policy would you come up with, or
are willing to live up to?
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Sylvain Wallez wrote:
So far the logicsheet looks good, but can't this be added to the util
logicsheet which also gives access to the "resolver" (another
predefined XSP variable) ? Having a one-tag logicsheet seems overkill
to me ;-)
Surely I can add
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et, but can you explain me what
the relationship could be between a sitemap parameter and resolver? I've
looked briefly into util.xsl but cannot find what you're aiming at.
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and you can use it like this in an XSP:
http://apache.org/xsp";
xmlns:cinclude="http://apache.org/cocoon/include/1.0";
xmlns:xsp-sitemap="http://apache.org/xsp/sitemap/1.0";>
http://www.w3.org/TR/xht
ou dare to push us! ;-)
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I figured I could do Sam a favor while I was at
it. I've been away for the day however, so I'm also looking for the
latest update.
Sam...? Any other takers?
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Steven Noels wrote:
So when Lenya ever exits from the (DOA) incubator, where should it be
^
Sorry about these nasty remarks - I should remember to live up to my own
mail guidelines posted only hours ago.
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the (DOA) incubator, where should it be
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m a bit swamped ATM to come up with some
scripts myself.
So anyone who wants to give it a whirl just tell me and I'll be at your
service. Cronifying "build docs" with some nagging shouldn't be too
hard, IIUC. And the rsync stuff has already been sorted out.
Cheers,
some other Apache projects. I made the enquiries because of the
clarified ASF policies w.r.t. use of LGPL libraries from within Apache code.
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the spirit high. There's so much nice things we can
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Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Steven Noels wrote:
Looking at the history of sitemap-v06.rng, I can't see this has been
happening a lot. Quite contrarily, some (myself included) have been
advocating to relax it even further. But dropping it will effectively
kill the small circle of p
on phase.
Looking at the history of sitemap-v06.rng, I can't see this has been
happening a lot. Quite contrarily, some (myself included) have been
advocating to relax it even further. But dropping it will effectively
kill the small circle of people interested in maintaining such a thin
ot;
match pattern="news/20*/**"
generate src="docs/news/20{1}/{2}.xml"
transform src="news2html.xsl"
serialize
Gee - I must have been reading too much Python code lately ;-)
Sorry if I sound offensive, I really don't mean to - but it's a p
Leszek Gawron wrote:
SELECT
K.K_NIP AS Knt_NipE,
B.GST_KntID AS Knt_KntId,
B.GST_KntID AS Knt_Kod,
K.K_GRUPA AS Knt_Grupa,
How does the rest of your pipeline looks like? Can you post the relevant
sitemap snippet?
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