Cocoon flow + O/R samples [was Re: XMLForms and O/R bridge. TheRoad Ahead.....]

2003-03-04 Thread Per-Olof Norén
Hi again, sorry for the delay. massive snip/ Having used cocoon and OJB for no less than four (4) of our projects I can only say that the combination of flow + OJB really makes life easier. We´re using OJB by reversing the db into an OJB-mapping file for which we generate beans that in turn

Re: XMLForms and O/R bridge. The Road Ahead.....

2003-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Hi! After seeing how Christian and Ugo greatly done the relation between XMLForms and Flow. A Bean is the model of the MVC, XMLForm the View and Flow the controller. A short of this can be B-XMLF-F. :-) Now still stay in the air the question of how to handle the down side

Re: XMLForms and O/R bridge. The Road Ahead.....

2003-03-01 Thread Per-Olof Norén
Sorry for the really sloppy snip, Stefano and Antonio. Didn´t mean to distort your orginal messages. regards, Per-Olof Norén

Re: XMLForms and O/R bridge. The Road Ahead.....

2003-03-01 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Saturday, March 1, 2003, at 10:23 AM, Per-Olof Norén wrote: Sorry for the really sloppy snip, Stefano and Antonio. Didnt mean to distort your orginal messages. We'll forgive you .. as long as you write up some stuff on using Apache OJB with XForms + Flow ;) Sorry, only joking ;)

Re: XMLForms and O/R bridge. The Road Ahead.....

2003-03-01 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Per-Olof Norén wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: First of I´d like to say that we decided not to used XMLForms in favor of pure flowscript, since we´re building large business applications. Despite the direction change we took, I really appriciate the XMLForms... snip/ I know Ugo likes

Re: XMLForms and O/R bridge. The Road Ahead.....

2003-03-01 Thread Jason Foster
Sure the flowscript layer can (and will, I'm sure) be abused, but as much as ant build files, or sitemaps can reach a point where the mess and performance drags you down and refactoring is needed. Since you did bring it up... ;) Could you offer some tips on how to refactor an ant build script

Re: XMLForms and O/R bridge. The Road Ahead.....

2003-03-01 Thread Pier Fumagalli
Jason Foster wrote: Sure the flowscript layer can (and will, I'm sure) be abused, but as much as ant build files, or sitemaps can reach a point where the mess and performance drags you down and refactoring is needed. Since you did bring it up... ;) Could you offer some tips on how to refactor

Re: XMLForms code

2003-02-28 Thread Jakob Praher
Am Fre, 2003-02-28 um 14.22 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have done the example off the site for XMLForms. Having got this to work i have tried to create a new form. I want to put a dropdown list in but have no idea what the code is. Is coding for XMLForms the same as XForms, so in this case

Re: XMLForms prepare/perform nothrow

2003-02-13 Thread Jakob Praher
Am Don, 2003-02-13 um 17.20 schrieb Jeroen Cranendonk: Our company is currently building a project around cocoon(yay:) and xmlforms. We are using the current development cvs version. Working on this it occured to me that the prepare and perform methods of the AbstractXMLFormAction class don't

Re: XMLForms prepare/perform nothrow

2003-02-13 Thread Jeroen Cranendonk
Am Don, 2003-02-13 um 17.20 schrieb Jeroen Cranendonk: Our company is currently building a project around cocoon(yay:) and xmlforms. We are using the current development cvs version. Working on this it occured to me that the prepare and perform methods of the AbstractXMLFormAction class

Re: XMLForms prepare/perform nothrow

2003-02-13 Thread Jakob Praher
Am Don, 2003-02-13 um 19.17 schrieb Jeroen Cranendonk: Am Don, 2003-02-13 um 17.20 schrieb Jeroen Cranendonk: Our company is currently building a project around cocoon(yay:) and xmlforms. We are using the current development cvs version. Working on this it occured to me that the

Re: XMLForms prepare/perform nothrow

2003-02-13 Thread ivelin
This is by design. AbstractXMLFormAction does not know how to handle application specific errors thrown by the prepare/perform callbacks. If you can't do anything about an exception which occurs within the method, then throw a runtime exception. -=Ivelin=- - Original Message - From:

Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1

2002-11-19 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Sorry for the delay. XML source doc attached. - Original Message - From: Tom Amiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ivelin Ivanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Santiago Pericas-Geertsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 8:06 AM Subject: Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re

Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1

2002-11-18 Thread Tom Amiro
Sorry. I must have made a mistake cutting and pasting. The snippets are the same. Tom Tom Amiro wrote: Hi, The html produced by Xalan vs XSLTC are so different, it is hard to know where to begin. It definitely looks like an XSLTC bug. Below are snippets from the top showing that

Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1

2002-11-18 Thread Tom Amiro
Hi, Santiago has started looking at the problem with XSLTC. It would help if you could send some XML source. Tom - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1

2002-11-17 Thread Tom Amiro
Hi, The html produced by Xalan vs XSLTC are so different, it is hard to know where to begin. It definitely looks like an XSLTC bug. Below are snippets from the top showing that things get out of synch really fast. It would help in debugging this, if you could simplify the xsl and provide a

Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1

2002-11-17 Thread Joerg Heinicke
What's different? ;-) Joerg Tom Amiro wrote: Hi, The html produced by Xalan vs XSLTC are so different, it is hard to know where to begin. It definitely looks like an XSLTC bug. Below are snippets from the top showing that things get out of synch really fast. It would help in debugging this,

Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1

2002-11-16 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Thanks for the notice. I reproduced the problem. Will post again when it is fixed. - Original Message - From: Ramy Mamdouh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 5:53 AM Subject: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1 Hi

Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1

2002-11-16 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
The latest Cocoon CVS HEAD (2.1) is working again, but... Read details below: After I spent a few hours trying to debug the problem, I realized that there is an issue with Xerces 2.2.0 and 2.2.1 (or incompatibility between it and the new Xalan libs). I rolled back to Xerces 2.1.0 and things are

Re: [XMLFORMS exception] was Re: Exception with current CVS of 2.1

2002-11-16 Thread Jeremy Quinn
On Saturday, Nov 16, 2002, at 18:58 Europe/London, Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Until now all XMLForm demo pages have been working equally good with both XSLTC and Xalan. I will now have to switch the demo to Xalan until this difference in the translators is resolved. One thing I noticed recently,

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-23 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I've taken my first crack at this and its undergoing review before I post it. I dislike both actions and the flowmap. More specifically principally depending on Javascript. Uh, thanks. I'm sure we'll be able to come up with a much better design with such great

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-22 Thread Christian Haul
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Per-Olof Norén wrote: Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: IMNSHO, the flowmap should totally replace actions and deprecate them. Ahem, I thought we decided *not* to deprecate them, as they make sense as elements in the declarative sitemap. For

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-22 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
I've taken my first crack at this and its undergoing review before I post it. I dislike both actions and the flowmap. More specifically principally depending on Javascript. -Andy Christian Haul wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Per-Olof Norén wrote: Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Nicola Ken

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-22 Thread Christian Haul
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Per-Olof Norén wrote: Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: IMNSHO, the flowmap should totally replace actions and deprecate them. Ahem, I thought we decided *not* to deprecate them, as they make sense as elements in the declarative sitemap. For

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-18 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: The spirit of this group has been that every contributor's opinion matters. One of the reasons I got hooked and am spending so much time on the list... Don't mind me I'm just having a bad week. ;-)

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-18 Thread giacomo
On Sun, 16 Jun 2002, Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: IMNSHO, the flowmap should totally replace actions and deprecate them. Ahem, I thought we decided *not* to deprecate them, as they make sense as elements in the declarative sitemap. For web apps Actions should be

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Reinhard, We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work together in a nice way. Interested? I am. IMNSHO, the flowmap should totally replace actions and deprecate them. I've looked at XMLForms and I must say it looks extremely

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-16 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Daniel Fagerström wrote: [skip lots of great stuff] I strongly sugests that we should _not_ make general use of continuations available in the flowmap language as there is no need for it for what flowmaps are intended to do: describing multipage flow in webapps. Daniel, thanks for your

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-16 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Thanks for your thouts. I would like to see an example at least as complex as the XMLForm demo before I can comment. The example needs to 1) Be able to handle most UI widgets, including checkboxes 2) Allow 2 way navigation 3) Make decisions about the next page based on: a) validity of the

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-16 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Ivelin Ivanov wrote: Reinhard, We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work together in a nice way. Interested? I am. IMNSHO, the flowmap should totally replace actions and deprecate them. I've looked at XMLForms and I must say

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-13 Thread Diana Shannon
On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 06:31 PM, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Feel free to ask if you need further clarification about my integration proposal. What *I'm* most interested in is a statement you made a while ago on this list about the difficulties students can have learning about

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-13 Thread Daniel Fagerström
Diana Shannon wrote: On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 06:31 PM, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Feel free to ask if you need further clarification about my integration proposal. What *I'm* most interested in is a statement you made a while ago on this list about the difficulties students

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-13 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
On 6/13/02 4:57 AM, Diana Shannon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 06:31 PM, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Feel free to ask if you need further clarification about my integration proposal. What *I'm* most interested in is a statement you made a while ago on this

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-13 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
On 6/13/02 7:49 AM, Daniel Fagerström [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Diana Shannon wrote: On Wednesday, June 12, 2002, at 06:31 PM, Daniel Fagerstrom wrote: Feel free to ask if you need further clarification about my integration proposal. What *I'm* most interested in is a statement

RE: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-12 Thread Reinhard Poetz
We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work together in a nice way. Interested? Ivelin Yes I am but my time and my java knowledge are limited (... but I'm learning) Anyway, I'll try it. Maybe there is somebody who has already some experience (Daniel?) who

RE: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-12 Thread Daniel Fagerstrom
Reinhard Poetz wrote: We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work together in a nice way. Interested? Ivelin Yes I am but my time and my java knowledge are limited (... but I'm learning) Anyway, I'll try it. Maybe there is somebody who has already

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-12 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Reinhard Poetz wrote: We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work together in a nice way. Interested? Ivelin Yes I am but my time and my java knowledge are limited (... but I'm learning) So you have the itch. That's all it takes ;-] Anyway, I'll try it.

Re: [XMLForms]

2002-06-11 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Reinhard, Please submit the patch through Bugzilla and send me a note. I will look at it and we will discuss it. Can you explain with a few lines, what is the patch doing? Thanks, Ivelin Reinhard Poetz wrote: Ivelin, Yesterday I had a deeper look into the new XMLForms implementation.

RE: [XMLForms]

2002-06-11 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [XMLForms] Reinhard, Please submit the patch through Bugzilla and send me a note. I will look at it and we will discuss it. Can you explain with a few lines, what is the patch doing? Thanks, Ivelin Reinhard Poetz wrote: Ivelin

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-11 Thread Ovidiu Predescu
Hi Reinhard, On 6/11/02 6:46 AM, Reinhard Poetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Currently the logic of XMLForms is handled by the action. I read a few weeks ago that there are plans to use the flowmap for it. (http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-devm=102071048209644w=2) Is anybody working

Re: [XMLForms]

2002-06-11 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
: Dienstag, 11. Juni 2002 15:09 An: Reinhard Poetz; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: Re: [XMLForms] Reinhard, Please submit the patch through Bugzilla and send me a note. I will look at it and we will discuss it. Can you explain with a few lines, what is the patch doing? Thanks, Ivelin Reinhard Poetz

Re: [XMLForms]

2002-06-11 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Piroumian Konstantin wrote: From: Reinhard Poetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] (I'm not Ivelin, but:) The approach is Ok, but the goal is not so clear to me. Why would you need to initialize a bean using XML data without Java programming? If you use JavaBeans then you should have some

Re: XMLForms and Flowmap

2002-06-11 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Reinhard, We are looking for someone to step up and show us how these two can work together in a nice way. Interested? Ivelin Reinhard Poetz wrote: Currently the logic of XMLForms is handled by the action. I read a few weeks ago that there are plans to use the flowmap for it.

[PATCH] Re: XMLForms XMLFormTransformer

2002-06-08 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
:58 AM Subject: Re: XMLForms XMLFormTransformer Ivelin I have submitted a patch http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9674 I had submitted an original patch which ignored the fact that xf:hidden could already contain an xf:value element. Andrew On Fri, 2002-06-07 at 12:13

Re: XMLForms XMLFormTransformer

2002-06-07 Thread Andrew Timberlake
Ivelin Here is the process I'm following: The XMLForm is first met with a URI containing an id in the querystring. I use the prepare method of my action to load a OR object reference by the id which then populates the model so that the form is populated for editing. If there is no id on the

Re: XMLForms XMLFormTransformer

2002-06-07 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
value in the xml markup? If you have the patch go right ahead, submit it to bugzilla and let me know. Cheers, Ivelin - Original Message - From: Andrew Timberlake [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 1:59 AM Subject: Re: XMLForms XMLFormTransformer

Re: XMLForms vs. W3C XForms in Cocoon

2002-06-06 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
. You can also search on the Cocoon dev list as this topic has been extensively discussed in the past. Hope this helps. Ivelin - Original Message - From: Michael Wasmund [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 1:46 AM Subject: Re: XMLForms vs. W3C XForms

RE: XMLForms vs. W3C XForms in Cocoon

2002-06-06 Thread Piroumian Konstantin
Message- From: Ivelin Ivanov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 4:53 PM To: Michael Wasmund Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: XMLForms vs. W3C XForms in Cocoon Michael, First of all, XMLForm is a contribution by many authors on the Cocoon

Re: XMLForms XMLFormTransformer

2002-06-06 Thread Ivelin Ivanov
Did you look at the latest Feedback Wizard demo for XMLForm. A sample use of the hidden tag is: xf:hidden ref=xpath/to/some/element/ xf:value567/xf:value /xf:hidden The hidden tag is provided a value in the markup. It does not read value from the model for the same reasons that the XForms