Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-06 Thread Erik Bruchez
All, There seems to be some confusion about Struts on this mailing-list. As mentioned in one of the replies, Struts was designed to be an MVC (Model/View/Controller) framework based on Model 2 (a hybrid servlet/JSP architecture, as opposed to 100% servlet-based or 100% jsp-based architectures). T

Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-05 Thread Konstantin Piroumian
Simmons < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > From: Robert Simmons [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 01:55:01 +0100 > Subject: Re: cocoon & struts together > > It was a painful road and I'm still nursing the bruises. But ya, I see

Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-05 Thread Anecss
Simmons < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: From: Robert Simmons [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 01:55:01 +0100 Subject: Re: cocoon & struts together It was a painful road and I'm still nursing the bruises. But ya, I see its valu

RE: Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-05 Thread robert_hitchins
eworks, they are definitely complimentary in many areas. Maybe someday someone will find the time to take the best of both worlds and combine them :-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 6:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTE

RE: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Argyn
uesday, February 04, 2003 4:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together > > > Struts is a horrible basis for business logic for a thousand reasons. > Business logic best lives within an enterprise container and > an application > s

Re: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
- From: "Ryan Hoegg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together > Robert Simmons wrote: > > >My advice to you is to use EJB and J2EE on the back end, cocoon on the web

Re: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
t I think cocoon's strength is publishing > data. > > -----Original Message- > From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 11:49 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together > > > Struts is

RE: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Todd Pierce
ebruary 2003 11:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together Struts is a horrible basis for business logic for a thousand reasons. Business logic best lives within an enterprise container and an application server. The basis of concurrency, fault tolerance, tra

Re: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Ryan Hoegg
Robert Simmons wrote: My advice to you is to use EJB and J2EE on the back end, cocoon on the web end, JDO for persistence and Swing for complex clients. -- Robert After your previous comments I'm surprised you aren't pushing CMP 2 over JDO. -- Ryan Hoegg ISIS Networks http://www.isisnetworks

Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
It was a painful road and I'm still nursing the bruises. But ya, I see its value. -- Robert - Original Message - From: "Antonio Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:55 AM Subject: Re: cocoon & struts tog

Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Antonio Gallardo
t a web designer with a couple weeks of > training worry about the XSLT translation. In the meantime your valuable > programmer resources are implementing new features and stabilizing the > product. > > Well that's my opinion on the matter. > > -- Robert > > > - Ori

Re: [OT] RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
EE on the back end, cocoon on the web end, JDO for persistence and Swing for complex clients. -- Robert - Original Message - From: "Todd Pierce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 1:36 AM Subject: [OT] RE: cocoon & str

[OT] RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Todd Pierce
he ills of the web world. -Original Message- From: Robert Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, 5 February 2003 10:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: cocoon & struts together Actually I'm an EJB specialist and I don't generally work on projects conducive to

Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
nslation. In the meantime your valuable programmer resources are implementing new features and stabilizing the product. Well that's my opinion on the matter. -- Robert - Original Message - From: "Antonio Gallardo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent

Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Antonio Gallardo
Robert Simmons dijo: > I dont think that using struts would be useful within an efficient > cocoon site. Cocoon takes another approach to web development that is, > in my opinion, superior to the jsp/struts approach. Thanks for the comment. I was trying to start learning about this stuff. As a be

Re: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-04 Thread Robert Simmons
ECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 3. Februar 2003 16:58 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: cocoon & struts together Hi Juraj, > like SAP. On this connects a webapplication which should be done > with with struts. Some areas of this application should be why are you considering Struts (at all)?

RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-03 Thread Upayavira
> http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/io-doc/index.html). It seems to work > quite well for our needs, but it would be nice to be able to call the cocoon > pipelines programmatically. Check out the CocoonBean, recently added to the dev version 2.1 in CVS (org.apache.cocoon.bean.CocoonBean). It

RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-03 Thread Richard Bounds
ll be activated and will transform the data. Can this work? Juraj -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Richard Bounds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Montag, 3. Februar 2003 17:06 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: RE: cocoon & struts together We're working on a similar setup - S

RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-03 Thread Richard Bounds
We're working on a similar setup - Struts-based form logic, with views of the data processed by cocoon into html/pdf/excel. Currently we simply pull html cocoon content into jsp's with an http request (using: http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/io-doc/index.html). It seems to work quite well for

RE: cocoon & struts together

2003-02-03 Thread Matthew Langham
Hi Juraj, > like SAP. On this connects a webapplication which should be done > with with struts. Some areas of this application should be why are you considering Struts (at all)? I am interested in this as we often meet this kind of setup/discussion and we try to convince people to go for a Cocoo