That's a point well-taken and I totally agree. The amount of decisions and
back-and-forth with design is truly huge.
My thinking was that we would develop something like a primer for wide
circulation with the large volume of nitty-gritty best practices available
at a central location (in addition
TMI?
Sweating the details IS how you get good user experience design.
I am sometimes reminded of the Oscar Wilde quote:"I was working on the
proof of one of my poems all the morning, and took out a comma. In the
afternoon I put it back again."
If you replace "poem" with "site" and "comma" wi
So many responses to address! ah!
The LITA support to this idea is lovely to see. Thank you very much.
I agree that code4lib is awesome and that we could potentially create a
document which would gain traction in the wider community BUT I really do
think official support/integration is the best c
aries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Pikas,
Christina K.
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One approach you might take, is to do what the federal government and
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One approach you might take, is to do what the federal government and local
governments are increasingly doing: selectively adopt industry standards. So
like for b
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You will also have support from the LITA Board on this. The document/wiki can
be published/publicised far and wide. The UX IG can bring the document to the
board and ask for endorsement, which
> Joshua Welker
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> Code4Lib is certainly respected among techy librarians, but I would bet
> that 90%
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I'm just going to jump in here and question the need for it to be ALA
Ponsford
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On the other hand, I'm looking for best practices that I call point librarians
to. And for that, having support
er
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> Code4Lib is certainly respected among techy librarians, but I would bet that
> 90% of my c
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~Bohyun
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C
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I'm just going to jump in here and question the need for it to be ALA or
LITA affiliated. Plenty of stuff has been accomplished and respected
(like, oh, hey, code4lib) without an
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> > Brad Coffield
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> > From: Code for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Joshua
> Welker [wel...@ucmo.edu]
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scussion are LITA members? Would
>> anyone be willing to join LITA to be a part of an interest group on
>> this subject? I will renew my membership in LITA if that is the best route
>> to take.
>>
>> Josh Welker
>>
>>
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e for Libraries [CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] on behalf of Joshua Welker
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Bohyun,
That sounds like it could be a grea
nyone be willing to join LITA to be a part of an interest group on
>> this subject? I will renew my membership in LITA if that is the best
>>route
>> to take.
>>
>> Josh Welker
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto
: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Kim,
Bohyun
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Jumping into this discussion late. Just wanted to let
Megan,
"useful for those of us who are no longer total beginners but are sort of
struggling to level up?" - Love that description. I think the kind of guide
everyone is brainstorming would be great for everyone in that boat. (at
least as I'm picturing it)
Hopefully, it would be excellent for non-
[mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Megan
O'Neill Kudzia
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I've been following with interest, and I think s
s, DSpace, etc.
> >>
> >> Some official name would be required, of course. I also think it
> >> would be great if we could write a draft, bring it to an official ALA
> >> group like LITA, and get them to adopt it after making their own tweaks.
> >>
> >
[mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
Cindi Blyberg
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Oh, and if UX doesn't fit, y'all can establish the LITA Web Standards IG, o
indi Blyberg
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>
> *puts on LITA hat*
>
> There are several ways that LITA/ALA could play a rol
o think it would be
>> great if we could write a draft, bring it to an official ALA group like
>> LITA, and get them to adopt it after making their own tweaks.
>>
>> Josh Welker
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4
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From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
Cindi Blyberg
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*puts on LITA hat*
There are several ways
gt; Of Brad Coffield
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>
> Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new
> thread. I don&#
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> Michael Schofield
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> I am interested but I am a little hazy about what kind of standards you all
&g
ing.
John Scancella
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I agre
t all : ).
Michael S.
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I agree that it
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> Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new
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I am interested but I am a little hazy about what kind of standards you all
are suggesting. I would warn against creating standards that conflict with
any
cella
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I agree th
Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of
>> Brad Coffield
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 9:30 AM
>> To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was: LibGuides
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>&
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> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Library community web standards (was: LibGuides v2
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>
> Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new thread. I
> don't know of any such library stand
field
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Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new thread. I
don't know of any such library standards tha
Josh, thanks for separating this topic out and starting this new thread. I
don't know of any such library standards that exist on the web. I agree
that this sounds like a great idea. As for this group or not... why not!
It's 2014 and they don't exist yet and they would be incredibly useful for
many
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Hello,
I don't think that there is anything like this. I think there are some
lone wolves out there who have suggested standards, but I haven't seen
anything similar to wha
Hello,
I don't think that there is anything like this. I think there are some lone
wolves out there who have suggested standards, but I haven't seen anything
similar to what has been discussed. If there were, I'd think one of us would
know about it.
Count me in!
I say we create flexible data
As Brad mentioned, one of the most interesting takeaways from this
conversation on LibGuides is the (lack of) recognized best practices in the
library community. If the folks here are representative at all, this is a
big void in our profession. This is not an acceptable state, IMO, because as
more
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