Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-17 Thread Michel Segel
hosted environment running set of VMs. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Prashant Kommireddi [mailto:prash1...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:46 AM To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Hi Brad, how many taskstrackers did you have

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-15 Thread Michael Segel
copy of Up Front by Bill Maudlin. There's a cartoon that really fits you. Later To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ? From: tdeut...@us.ibm.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 11:40:51 -0800 Your eagerness to insult is throwing you off track here Michael

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Segel
a bad question because it forces you to realize that there are definitely lots of other options. that you have to consider. HTH -Mike Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 20:25:17 -0600 Subject: Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ? From: airb...@gmail.com To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Hi Brad

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Segel
@hadoop.apache.org Subject: RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ? From: tdeut...@us.ibm.com Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:46:49 -0800 It also helps to know the profile of your job in how you spec the machines. So in addition to Brad's response you should consider if you think your jobs will be more storage

Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Brian Bockelman
its better to avoid building purpose built clusters. You end up not being able to easily recycle the hardware in to new clusters easily. But hey what do I know? ;-) To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ? From: tdeut...@us.ibm.com Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Tom Deutsch
Putting aside any smarmy responses for a moment - sorry that job(s) wasn't understood as equating to purpose. If you are building a general purpose sandbox then I think we all agree on building a balanced general purpose cluster. But if you have production use cases in mind then you darn well

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Segel
for a specific job unless you know that you're going to be running that specific job or set of jobs (24x7X365) [And yes, I came across such a use case...] HTH -Mike From: bbock...@cse.unl.edu Subject: Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:41:25 -0600 To: common-user

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Michael Segel
and 'truisms'. Unless you've had your hands dirty and at customer's sites you're going to find the real world is a different place. ;-) But hey! What do I know? To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ? From: tdeut...@us.ibm.com Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:56:30 -0800

Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Scott Carey
) [And yes, I came across such a use case...] HTH -Mike From: bbock...@cse.unl.edu Subject: Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:41:25 -0600 To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Actually, there are varying degrees here. If you have a successful project, you will find other

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Tom Deutsch
Your eagerness to insult is throwing you off track here Michael. For example, the workload profile of a cluster doing heavy NLP is very different than one doing serving as a destination for large scale application/web logs. Ditto for PC risk modeling vs smart meter use cases, etc etc...Those

Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Russell Jurney
. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Prashant Kommireddi [mailto:prash1...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:46 AM To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Hi Brad, how many taskstrackers did you have on each node in both cases? Thanks

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-14 Thread Brad Sarsfield
Subject: Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ? You're using OS virtualization in your test. Are you using it in production? Russell Jurney twitter.com/rjurney russell.jur...@gmail.com datasyndrome.com On Dec 13, 2011, at 5:16 PM, Brad Sarsfield b...@bing.com wrote: The experiment was done in a cloud

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-13 Thread Brad Sarsfield
. ~Brad -Original Message- From: praveenesh kumar [mailto:praveen...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, December 12, 2011 8:51 PM To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Hey Guys, So I have a very naive question in my mind regarding Hadoop cluster nodes ? more cores

Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-13 Thread Prashant Kommireddi
@hadoop.apache.org Subject: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Hey Guys, So I have a very naive question in my mind regarding Hadoop cluster nodes ? more cores or more nodes - Shall I spend money on going from 2-4 core machines, or spend money on buying more nodes less core eg. say 2 machines

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-13 Thread Tom Deutsch
Management Big Data Technologies IBM 3565 Harbor Blvd Costa Mesa, CA 92626-1420 tdeut...@us.ibm.com Brad Sarsfield b...@bing.com 12/13/2011 09:41 AM Please respond to common-user@hadoop.apache.org To common-user@hadoop.apache.org common-user@hadoop.apache.org cc Subject RE: More cores Vs More Nodes

Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-13 Thread real great..
PM To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Hey Guys, So I have a very naive question in my mind regarding Hadoop cluster nodes ? more cores or more nodes - Shall I spend money on going from 2-4 core machines, or spend money on buying more nodes less core eg. say

Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-13 Thread Alexander Pivovarov
To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Hey Guys, So I have a very naive question in my mind regarding Hadoop cluster nodes ? more cores or more nodes - Shall I spend money on going from 2-4 core machines, or spend money on buying more nodes less core eg. say 2

Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-13 Thread bharath vissapragada
/13/2011 09:41 AM Please respond to common-user@hadoop.apache.org To common-user@hadoop.apache.org common-user@hadoop.apache.org cc Subject RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Praveenesh, Your question is not naïve; in fact, optimal hardware design can ultimately be a very difficult

RE: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-13 Thread Brad Sarsfield
running set of VMs. ~Brad -Original Message- From: Prashant Kommireddi [mailto:prash1...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:46 AM To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Hi Brad, how many taskstrackers did you have on each node in both cases

Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-13 Thread He Chen
- From: Prashant Kommireddi [mailto:prash1...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 9:46 AM To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org Subject: Re: More cores Vs More Nodes ? Hi Brad, how many taskstrackers did you have on each node in both cases? Thanks, Prashant Sent from my iPhone

More cores Vs More Nodes ?

2011-12-12 Thread praveenesh kumar
Hey Guys, So I have a very naive question in my mind regarding Hadoop cluster nodes ? more cores or more nodes – Shall I spend money on going from 2-4 core machines, or spend money on buying more nodes less core eg. say 2 machines of 2 cores for example? Thanks, Praveenesh