19.07.11 14:50, Steve Loughran написав(ла):
On 19/07/11 12:44, Rita wrote:
Arun,
I second Joeś comment.
Thanks for giving us a heads up.
I will wait patiently until 0.23 is considered stable.
API-wise, 0.21 is better. I know that as I'm working with 0.20.203
right now, and it is a step back
On 19/07/11 12:44, Rita wrote:
Arun,
I second Joeś comment.
Thanks for giving us a heads up.
I will wait patiently until 0.23 is considered stable.
API-wise, 0.21 is better. I know that as I'm working with 0.20.203 right
now, and it is a step backwards.
Regarding future releases, the best
is going to look at a M/R solution cost and
> performance are going to be at the top of the list. MapR isn't cheap but if
> you look at the features in M5, if they work, then you have a very
> compelling reason to look at their release. Some of the people I spoke to
> when I was in
oe Stein
>> http://www.medialets.com
>> Twitter: @allthingshadoop
>> */
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Michael Segel wrote:
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>>>> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:19:38 -0700
>>>> Subject: Re: Wh
aid.
>
> One love, Apache Hadoop!
>
> /*
> Joe Stein
> http://www.medialets.com
> Twitter: @allthingshadoop
> */
>
> On Jul 18, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Michael Segel wrote:
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>>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:19:38 -0700
>>> Subject:
"state the obvious" paper
on my back but kinda feel it had to be said.
One love, Apache Hadoop!
/*
Joe Stein
http://www.medialets.com
Twitter: @allthingshadoop
*/
On Jul 18, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Michael Segel wrote:
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>
>
>> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:19:38 -0700
>> Su
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 18:19:38 -0700
> Subject: Re: Which release to use?
> From: mcsri...@gmail.com
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
>
> Mike,
>
> Just a minor inaccuracy in your email. Here's setting the record straight:
>
> 1. MapR directly
I believe EMC is selling the Greenplumb
> > solution as an appliance -
> >
> > Cheers -
> >
> > Jeffery
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Steve Loughran [mailto:ste...@apache.org]
> > Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:07 PM
> > To: common-user@hadoop
On Jul 18, 2011, at 6:02 PM, Rita wrote:
> I am a dimwit.
We are conditioned by marketing that a higher number is always better.
Experience tells us that this is not necessarily true.
I am a dimwit.
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 8:12 PM, Allen Wittenauer wrote:
>
> On Jul 18, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Rita wrote:
>
> > I made the big mistake by using the latest version, 0.21.0 and found
> bunch
> > of bugs so I got pissed off at hdfs. Then, after reading this thread it
> > seems I should
On Jul 18, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Rita wrote:
> I made the big mistake by using the latest version, 0.21.0 and found bunch
> of bugs so I got pissed off at hdfs. Then, after reading this thread it
> seems I should of used 0.20.x .
>
> I really wish we can fix this on the website, stating 0.21.0 as un
Segel wrote:
>
> Well that's CDH3. :-)
>
> And yes, that's because up until the past month... other releases didn't
> exist w commercial support.
>
> Now there are more players as we look at the movement from leading edge to
> mainstream adopters.
>
Well that's CDH3. :-)
And yes, that's because up until the past month... other releases didn't exist
w commercial support.
Now there are more players as we look at the movement from leading edge to
mainstream adopters.
> Subject: RE: Which release to use?
> Date: Mon,
[mailto:michael_se...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 2:10 PM
To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: RE: Which release to use?
Tom,
I'm not sure that you're really honoring the purpose and approach of
this list.
I mean on the one hand, you're not under any obligation to respond or
r offering.
Maybe by September you might be ready and then talk to our CHUG?
-Mike
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Which release to use?
> From: tdeut...@us.ibm.com
> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 10:29:55 -0700
>
> Hi Rita - I want to make sure we are honoring the pu
of MapR will generate.
It sounds like they are hedging their bets and are taking an 'IBM' approach.
> Subject: RE: Which release to use?
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 08:30:59 -0500
> From: jeff.schm...@shell.com
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
>
> Steve,
>
&
Steve,
I read your blog nice post - I believe EMC is selling the Greenplumb
solution as an appliance -
Cheers -
Jeffery
-Original Message-
From: Steve Loughran [mailto:ste...@apache.org]
Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 4:07 PM
To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which release
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Rita
07/16/2011 08:53 AM
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common-user@hadoop.apache.org
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Subject
Re: Which release to use?
I am curious about th
tty much worthless.
So it would be interesting to see what IBM is really offering in this space.
HTH
-Mike
> Subject: Re: Which release to use?
> From: tdeut...@us.ibm.com
> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 14:07:20 -0600
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
>
> There are two release l
errors.
- Original Message -
From: Steve Loughran [ste...@apache.org]
Sent: 07/17/2011 08:34 PM CET
To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which release to use?
On 16/07/2011 16:53, Rita wrote:
I am curious about the IBM product BigInishgts. Where can we download it? It
seems we
On 16/07/2011 16:53, Rita wrote:
I am curious about the IBM product BigInishgts. Where can we download it? It
seems we have to register to download it?
I think you have to pay to use it
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> Costa Mesa, CA 92626-1420
> tdeut...@us.ibm.com
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>
>
> Michael Segel
> 07/15/2011 07:58 AM
> Please respond to
> common-u
011 16:25:55 -0500
> Subject: Re: Which release to use?
> From: markkerz...@gmail.com
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
>
> Steve,
>
> this is so well said, do you mind if I repeat it here,
> http://shmsoft.blogspot.com/2011/07/hadoop-commercial-support-options.html
>
>
Steve,
this is so well said, do you mind if I repeat it here,
http://shmsoft.blogspot.com/2011/07/hadoop-commercial-support-options.html
Thank you,
Mark
On Fri, Jul 15, 2011 at 4:00 PM, Steve Loughran wrote:
> On 15/07/2011 15:58, Michael Segel wrote:
>
>>
>> Unfortunately the picture is a bit
On 15/07/2011 18:06, Arun C Murthy wrote:
Apache Hadoop is a volunteer driven, open-source project. The contributors to
Apache Hadoop, both individuals and folks across a diverse set of
organizations, are committed to driving the project forward and making timely
releases - see discussion on h
On 15/07/2011 15:58, Michael Segel wrote:
Unfortunately the picture is a bit more confusing.
Yahoo! is now HortonWorks. Their stated goal is to not have their own
derivative release but to sell commercial support for the official Apache
release.
So those selling commercial support are:
*Cloud
adoop. From what I have seen, Cloudera's release is the closest to
> the Apache release.
>
> Like I said, things are getting interesting.
>
> HTH
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
>> From: ev...@yahoo-inc.com
>> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
>> Date: Fri, 15
nd to
common-user@hadoop.apache.org
To
cc
Subject
RE: Which release to use?
Unfortunately the picture is a bit more confusing.
Yahoo! is now HortonWorks. Their stated goal is to not have their own
derivative release but to sell commercial support for the official Apache
release.
So
On Jul 15, 2011, at 7:58 AM, Michael Segel wrote:
> So while you can use the Apache release, it may not make sense for your
> organization to do so. (Said as I don the flame retardant suit...)
I obviously disagree. *grin* Apache Hadoop 0.20.203.0 is the most stable and
well tested release and
> From: ev...@yahoo-inc.com
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 07:35:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: Which release to use?
>
> Adarsh,
>
> Yahoo! no longer has its own distribution of Hadoop. It has been merged into
> the 0.20.2XX line so 0.20.20
Adarsh,
Yahoo! no longer has its own distribution of Hadoop. It has been merged into
the 0.20.2XX line so 0.20.203 is what Yahoo is running internally right now,
and we are moving towards 0.20.204 which should be out soon. I am not an
expert on Cloudera so I cannot really map its releases to
hortonworks.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:43 PM
> To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Which release to use?
>
> Hi,
>
> 0.20.203 is the latest stable release which includes a ton of features
> (security - kerberos based authentication) and fixes. Its cu
Will 0.23 include Kerberos authentication? Will this finally unite the Yahoo
and Apache branches?
-Original Message-
From: Arun C Murthy [mailto:a...@hortonworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 14, 2011 7:43 PM
To: common-user@hadoop.apache.org
Subject: Re: Which release to use?
Hi
Hadoop releases are issued time by time. But one more thing related to
hadoop usage,
There are so many providers that provides the distribution of Hadoop ;
1. Apache Hadoop
2. Cloudera
3. Yahoo
etc.
Which distribution is best among them on production usage.
I think Cloudera's is best among th
On Jul 14, 2011, at 4:33 PM, Teruhiko Kurosaka wrote:
> I'm a newbie and I am confused by the Hadoop releases.
> I thought 0.21.0 is the latest & greatest release that I
> should be using but I noticed 0.20.203 has been released
> lately, and 0.21.X is marked "unstable, unsupported".
>
> Should
Hi,
0.20.203 is the latest stable release which includes a ton of features
(security - kerberos based authentication) and fixes. Its currently deployed at
over 50k machines at Yahoo too.
So, yes, I'd encourage you to use 0.20.203. We, the community, are currently
working on hadoop-0.23 and ho
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