Re: [SURVEY] Commons-csv or not?

2003-06-25 Thread Jeremias Maerki
On 25.06.2003 19:59:19 Joe Germuska wrote: > A CSV project seems a bit too narrowly focused. I agree. IMHO the focus should be on any type of legacy, structured ASCII files containing some notion of "record". It's very interesting to have code around to easily convert such files to XML (SAX-Event

Re: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not? - jarring or ... and exposing some classes?

2003-06-25 Thread Sung-Gu
I'd like to consider the compelete opposite situation. If a project (knows what they exactly need) wanted just several classes from another project, should they include a whole jar from the project? What's the possbile solution? Here you are, my one... You can notice there are xxx.md5, xxx.asc

Re: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not? - with java.net.URI?

2003-06-25 Thread Sung-Gu
> - Original Message - > From: "Shapira, Yoav" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 9:38 PM > Subject: RE: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not? > > Howdy, > I think a slightly more detailed proposal is needed: one that add

Re: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not? - about its needs

2003-06-25 Thread Sung-Gu
- Original Message - From: "Eric Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I too am against a separate URI commons package, at least for the moment. [snip] > Anyway, to the extent that a separate URI package would make sense, if > we had a model such as the above, where most people used the one g

Re: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not?

2003-06-25 Thread Jandalf
The Guidelines of the commons charter has some guidance here: http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/charter.html 1. The primary unit of reuse and release is the package. 2. The package library is not a framework but a collection of components designed to be used independently. 3. Each pack

Re: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not? - about starting point

2003-06-25 Thread Sung-Gu
- Original Message - From: "Martin Cooper" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Jakarta Commons Developers List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Commons HttpClient Project" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not? > > > On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, Sung-G

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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jxpath/src/java/org/apache/commons/jxpath/ri/axes DescendantContext.java

2003-06-25 Thread dmitri
dmitri 2003/06/25 19:18:47 Modified:jxpath/src/test/org/apache/commons/jxpath/ri/model XMLModelTestCase.java jxpath/src/java/org/apache/commons/jxpath/ri EvalContext.java jxpath/src/java/org/apache/commons/jxp

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2003-06-25 Thread dmitri
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jxpath/src/java/org/apache/commons/jxpath/util BasicTypeConverter.java

2003-06-25 Thread dmitri
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Re: [math][functor] More Design Concerns

2003-06-25 Thread David Graham
> > c.) What is the platform of interest for [math]? Server Side or > > Application. Remember that Jakarta's mission is create *server-side* libraries: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mission.html That doesn't mean that a library couldn't be used in client-side apps but it does mean that your pri

Re: [math][functor] More Design Concerns

2003-06-25 Thread Phil Steitz
(2) Considerations a.) Is consistent library design important?Can all these models interace effectively? Are all these different design models required? Is there a single design model that can span the entire library? IMHO, the most important considerations are 1) how easy the library will be

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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/test/org/apache/commons/lang ArrayUtilsTest.java

2003-06-25 Thread scolebourne
scolebourne2003/06/25 16:33:47 Modified:lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang ArrayUtils.java lang/src/test/org/apache/commons/lang ArrayUtilsTest.java Log: Add primitive boolean/object conversions Bug 21068, from Matthew Hawthorne Revision ChangesPath 1.

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang ArrayUtils.java

2003-06-25 Thread scolebourne
scolebourne2003/06/25 16:32:08 Modified:lang/src/java/org/apache/commons/lang ArrayUtils.java Log: Add new empty array constants for number objects Declare variables as final Fix null behaviour to be null tolerant Javadoc null behaviour Fix formatting Revision Changes

RE: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not?

2003-06-25 Thread Gary Gregory
I like this idea. I would also propose: o This "commons.jar", "commons-all.jar" or whatever it should be called be part of the nightly-build. If a sub-component's build failed, then this build fails. o A release of commons-all would be automatically attempted when a new release of a sub-component

Re: [math][functor] More Design Concerns

2003-06-25 Thread Mark R. Diggory
Rodney Waldhoff wrote: On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Mark R. Diggory wrote: Either way, I hope some of us will take a quick over the the package and comment according about their opinion. I hope Rodney Waldhoff will feel comfortable about stepping back in and discussing some more about his approach wit

Re: Checked vs Runtime exceptions

2003-06-25 Thread Rodney Waldhoff
On Wed, 25 Jun 2003, David Graham wrote: > Logging was merely an example (probably a poor one). Agreed. Logging was one of my examples, and it's a bad one for the sake of this discussion. In practice no logging API I'm aware throws Runtime or checked Exceptions, but silently fail as far as the

Re: Checked vs Runtime exceptions

2003-06-25 Thread Juozas Baliuka
> > In many cases that a database operation fails the next layer just cares > that it gets notified of the failure and logs it (you could also have > subclasses of MyException that indicate more specific failure types). > MyException is allowing other layers to be independent of the persistence >

Re: Checked vs Runtime exceptions

2003-06-25 Thread David Graham
--- Juozas Baliuka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, > next example with checked exception in client code: > > void register(MyObject value)throws MyException{ > try{ > Connection connection = getConnection();// Doe's it throws > SQLException > too ? > try{ > updateOrInsert(connection

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser ASTUnaryMinusNode.java ASTMethod.java Parser.java Parser.jj ParserTreeConstants.java ParserVisitor.java

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Royal
On Wednesday, June 25, 2003, at 07:17 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +++ ASTMethod.java25 Jun 2003 11:17:00 - 1.4 @@ -1,5 +1,7 @@ package org.apache.commons.jexl.parser; +{ +System.out.println("ASTMethod : "+ e); +e.printStackTrace();; Why no

Re: Checked vs Runtime exceptions

2003-06-25 Thread Juozas Baliuka
Ok, next example with checked exception in client code: void register(MyObject value)throws MyException{ try{ Connection connection = getConnection();// Doe's it throws SQLException too ? try{ updateOrInsert(connection,value); log.info(" registred " + value.getId() ); }fin

Re: Checked vs Runtime exceptions

2003-06-25 Thread David Graham
--- Ryan Hoegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This may be the "correct solution" in some of your eyes, but it is far > too much overhead for most programmers who want to use logging. If my > database server is down or the logging directory can not be found when I > > want to log something, my app

Re: Checked vs Runtime exceptions

2003-06-25 Thread Ryan Hoegg
This may be the "correct solution" in some of your eyes, but it is far too much overhead for most programmers who want to use logging. If my database server is down or the logging directory can not be found when I want to log something, my application code is not the right place to handle that

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser ASTSubtractNode.java

2003-06-25 Thread Peter Royal
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons-sandbox/math/xdocs tasks.xml

2003-06-25 Thread mdiggory
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RE: [SURVEY] Commons-URI or not?

2003-06-25 Thread Shapira, Yoav
Howdy, I think a slightly more detailed proposal is needed: one that addresses specifically what commons-uri would address that's missing in java.net.URI and related classes. Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics >-Original Message- >From: Sung-Gu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wedn

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] FileUpload 1.0 Final Release Plan

2003-06-25 Thread Vic Cekvenich
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser ASTUnaryMinusNode.java ASTMethod.java Parser.java Parser.jj ParserTreeConstants.java ParserVisitor.java

2003-06-25 Thread geirm
geirm 2003/06/25 04:17:01 Modified:jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser ASTMethod.java Parser.java Parser.jj ParserTreeConstants.java ParserVisitor.java Added: jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser Parser.jjt

2003-06-25 Thread geirm
geirm 2003/06/25 04:09:21 Modified:jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser Parser.jjt Log: Mark Wilkinson patch to solve some problems with unary minus Revision ChangesPath 1.7 +3 -1 jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser/Parser.jj

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser Parser.java Parser.jj ParserTreeConstants.java ParserVisitor.java

2003-06-25 Thread geirm
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser ASTSizeFunction.java

2003-06-25 Thread geirm
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser ASTSubtractNode.java

2003-06-25 Thread geirm
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cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser Parser.jjt

2003-06-25 Thread geirm
geirm 2003/06/25 03:48:46 Modified:jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser Parser.jjt Log: patch from Mark Wilkinson to (cleverly) handle the size problem Revision ChangesPath 1.6 +10 -2 jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser/Parser

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/jexl/src/java/org/apache/commons/jexl/parser ASTSizeMethod.java

2003-06-25 Thread geirm
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Re: Checked vs Runtime exceptions

2003-06-25 Thread Juozas Baliuka
I think this logging example was a good one: void MyMethodUsesLogging()throws MyException{ try{ log.info("started"); }catch(LoggingException e){ log.error(e); // ?? throw new MyExeption(e); } } - Original Message - From: "David Graham"

cvs commit: jakarta-commons/httpclient/xdocs logging.xml

2003-06-25 Thread oglueck
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Re: Checked vs Runtime exceptions

2003-06-25 Thread Juozas Baliuka
Checked exeptions look very usefull for API designers and useless for API users, doe's not it ? > You missed the correct solution in your logging > example. Obviously, various implementations will > throw different sets of exceptions so the right way to > handle it is to create a checked Logg

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