Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Hi, Henri Yandell wrote: On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Sean Schofield wrote: I took a quick look at Joda's date parser and saw it has its own engine. I believe the commons one should lean onto the syntax of the java's, such that should allow it as a bug free plug-in replacement of Sun's. What do o

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Kick it out :) Which raises some questions. If Ant does need it, then they'll still be maintaining their own. Also, if Ant drop their code, then the highly useful [to coven's of witches] phase of moon code will vanish from sight. Hen I already checked and the Ant code is not currently using

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

I think we should stick with the existing syntax for using SimpleDateFormat since that is what people already know, I can't think of a powerful reason to not stick with it. Agreed. I like the preset patterns in DateUtils like ISO8601_TIME_PATTERN, however, I also wish that there was a way

RE: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I agree with the time subpackage. Then, we can put time.calendar if we have > multiple calendar classes, time.date if we have multiple date classes. Stack overflow worry. Let's also remember that we want to avoid grandoise thoughts of huge librari

RE: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

--Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2002 10:12 AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package? On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Sean Schofield wrote: > > I took a quick look at Jo

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Just to get it in quick. -1 to ripping source from the JDK. Licenses bite our arses too quickly when you get near here so it's not something ASF can do. I thought that might be a problem. No biggy we can just do our own. I'm starting to want a time sub-package as this gets larger :) Once it

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Sean Schofield wrote: > > I took a quick look at Joda's date parser and saw it has its own > > engine. > > > > I believe the commons one should lean onto the syntax of the java's, > > such that should allow it as a bug free plug-in replacement of Sun's. > > > > > What do oth

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Will Ant start using the code if we do take ownership of it? Probably. See yesterday's DateUtils thread for more on this topic (we've moved this discussion to that thread.) We're just getting started so any help/feedback would be appreciated. - sean -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

I took a quick look at Joda's date parser and saw it has its own engine. I believe the commons one should lean onto the syntax of the java's, such that should allow it as a bug free plug-in replacement of Sun's. What do others think? I agree. I don't think we want to write a new DateFormat

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Will Ant start using the code if we do take ownership of it? -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 18/12/2002 01:24:33 AM: > here some pittfalls of the Sun's date utilitites th

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

here some pittfalls of the Sun's date utilitites that I encoutnered. a) The *parser* in the SimpleDateFormat is not thread safe. b) The ParseException acts differently in every version since JDK1.1.7 (expliecetly an unusable errorOffset). c) It allows negative months and other components, thus f

Re: DateUtils Planning, WAS: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

On Mon, 16 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I think that the Ant committers will not want to rely on yet another commons > package until it has shown that it will be supported and maintained. Having > said that, I don't think it is horrible to have this code duplicated. Assuming it's in Lan

DateUtils Planning, WAS: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 11:33 AM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package? > > >That sounds like a plan. I checked with one of the committers for Ant, and >it seems like we can just copy the

RE: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

- From: Sean Schofield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:16 PM To: Jakarta Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package? I agree that simple time/date utilities would belong in commons/lang as opposed to a larger project

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

> What is not thread safe about SimpleDateFormatter? If this is true that > seems kind of serious! (I will take a look at the source tonight but it > might help if you gave me a hint) http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4228335.html > Anyways, this thread safety business sou

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Please be warned, that Date is a fragile/controversial issue, since 1. The java SimpleDateFormatter is not thread safe 2. Dates have many locale specific representation. Indeed, Sun's dates are pretty rubbish. Joda has a 0.8 release, which has thread safe formatting including time zone hand

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

I agree that simple time/date utilities would belong in commons/lang as opposed to a larger project like joda. This is infact what I had in mind. I will also keep in mind the potential controversey as suggested. Here are a few scenarios that I'd like to throw out there as possibly being gener

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

I agree that simple time/date utilities would belong in commons/lang as opposed to a larger project like joda. This is infact what I had in mind. I will also keep in mind the potential controversey as suggested. Here are a few scenarios that I'd like to throw out there as possibly being general

RE: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Commons Developers List Subject: Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package? Stephen Colebourne wrote: >There is a CalendarUtils class already in the [lang-sandbox] that you might >want to look at. > > Will do. I will report back after I take a look at what's ther

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

> Seems that Stephen has taken another approach to this (see the posts > in this thread). Maybe someone takes a look to see if the two versions > in rupert can be explited and deprecated in favor of CalendarUtils > or joda. Parts of these classes could be deprecated to Joda, but Joda is much bigger

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Hi, an first hit at this in the commons land was in: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-commons-sandbox/rupert/src/java/org/apache/commons/rupert/christoph/IsoDateTool.java?rev=HEAD http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs/jakarta-commons-sandbox/rupert/src/java/org/apache/commons/rupert/nathan/DateTool.j

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Stephen Colebourne wrote: There is a CalendarUtils class already in the [lang-sandbox] that you might want to look at. Will do. I will report back after I take a look at what's there in the sandbox. Thanks for the tip. (Also I will be checking out your site for the joda stuff.) Eric, I

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

There is a CalendarUtils class already in the [lang-sandbox] that you might want to look at. http://joda.sourceforge.net is where I have quite an extensive time/date rewrite project underway. But we'll always take a look at ideas. Simple utils for java dates and times probably fit in [lang], more

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Oh, welcome to the party by the way :) On Fri, 13 Dec 2002, Sean Schofield wrote: > Greetings. > > I'm new to the commons-dev list and I've been throwing out ideas of > where I might be able to make my first open source contribution. > > Has anyone thought about a possible TimeUtils package with

Re: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Stephen's our expert here as his joda project has an extensive time system in. There is a TImeUtils/CalendarUtils idea floating around a bit, but it needs to remain simple and not grow into a large system [which by experience, Stephen has shown us can happen]. But feel free to throw in the ideas,

RE: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

: [lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package? Greetings. I'm new to the commons-dev list and I've been throwing out ideas of where I might be able to make my first open source contribution. Has anyone thought about a possible TimeUtils package with commons.lang? There a varie

[lang] Has anyone thought about a TimeUtils package?

Greetings. I'm new to the commons-dev list and I've been throwing out ideas of where I might be able to make my first open source contribution. Has anyone thought about a possible TimeUtils package with commons.lang? There a variety of time-related utilities that I've been working on that migh