On 27 Dec 2004, at 21:38, Henri Yandell wrote:
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things like Digester I think it would be a lot better if the
binary tar.gz contained the jars it depends on?
without wishing to say anything about the general principle,
Sometimes it is even difficult to define what are those dependencies,
because it depends on the use
cases.
An example of this that got me by surprise is the HttpClient. Some time
ago I had to import the
Commons HttpClient into an Oracle Database.
By default, Oracle's import tool tries to
Martin Cooper wrote:
Whether or not it's petty change depends on (a) how you define
dependencies (see below), and (b) your network connection. People
still using dial-up connections (and there are still a lot of them)
will not appreciate the extra download times, especially for stuff
they already
Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things like Digester I think it would be a lot better if the
binary tar.gz contained the jars it depends on?
So when I download digester-1.6, the tar.gz contains jars for
I'm -1 on including dependencies by default. I am +0 on the idea of creating a
separate binary download that includes the deps (e.g. look at Spring for an
example)
Cheers,
Rory
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On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 22:23:30 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:48:00 -0800, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not me. Doing this will lead to people having multiple copies of
various component jars lying around on their disks, and will
Curse you and your valid points :)
Next step for me is to work out just how much of Commons is affected
by your points. If it's just a particular component, then we work
around it (ie don't put the things in the dist, same as the current
situation).
One positive is that if we manually place a
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things like Digester I think it would be a lot better if the
binary tar.gz contained the jars it depends on?
So when I download digester-1.6, the tar.gz contains jars for
logging-1.0.3 and beanutils-1.7. We're not
Henri Yandell wrote:
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things like Digester I think it would be a lot better if the
binary tar.gz contained the jars it depends on?
Just my HO, but to me that defeats the purpose of
ibiblio/java-repository. It also
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:14:36 -0500, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things like Digester I think it would be a lot better if the
binary tar.gz contained the jars it depends on?
Just
I am with Henri here...
Oliver
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 17:36:02 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:14:36 -0500, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things
Henri Yandell wrote:
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:14:36 -0500, Phil Steitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Henri Yandell wrote:
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things like Digester I think it would be a lot better if the
binary tar.gz contained the jars it
It would certainly be helpful to our users to include the dependencies in
the distro. Otherwise, it's like trying to drive a car without the
wheels.
David
--- Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things like
I'm +1 to Henri's idea for this reason:
When I'm using a package that requires other jars, I typically install the
package on my development platform way ahead of the time when I'll be running
maven. On some projects I never even run maven on the development box. Having
the dependent jars as
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 16:38:03 -0500, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not a huge issue for things like Lang which have no dependencies, but
for other things like Digester I think it would be a lot better if the
binary tar.gz contained the jars it depends on?
So when I download
On Mon, 27 Dec 2004 15:48:00 -0800, Martin Cooper [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not me. Doing this will lead to people having multiple copies of
various component jars lying around on their disks, and will
unnecessarily increase the amount of stuff that people need to
download.
Definitely
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