Re: [VOTE] suspend use of @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Adrian Sutton
On 17/3/04 12:02 PM, "Michael Becke" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Given the current ambiguity regarding @author tags I propose that we > suspend their use for contributors without a CLA on file. This is > meant to be a temporary solution until something official is endorsed > by the ASF board. >

Re: [VOTE] suspend use of @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Oleg Kalnichevski
+1 On Wed, 2004-03-17 at 03:02, Michael Becke wrote: > Given the current ambiguity regarding @author tags I propose that we > suspend their use for contributors without a CLA on file. This is > meant to be a temporary solution until something official is endorsed > by the ASF board. > > Mi

RE: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Roland Weber
Hello all, Michael McGrady wrote: > This is a really good idea, Oleg. I am surprised, frankly, that we allow > people to use the @author tags without having signed the agreement > first. That would be a real problem. So that is one of the reasons for this discussion. If you feel that @autho

[PROPOSAL][DRAFT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta level

2004-03-16 Thread Adrian Sutton
Hi all, I thought I'd get the ball rolling on creating this proposal - sorry if I've stepped on someone's toes. I had a few unexpected spare cycles. >From http://jakarta.apache.org/site/management.html our Proposal needs to have the following things: Scope of the Project Initial source from whi

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 25372] - auto close idle connections

2004-03-16 Thread Michael Becke
Any comments? Mike On Mar 7, 2004, at 11:25 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFACE AVAILABLE AT . ANY REPLY MADE TO THIS MESSAGE WILL NOT BE COLLECTED AN

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 27589] - MultiThreadedConnectionManager should provide a shutdown

2004-03-16 Thread Michael Becke
Any comments on this one? I'd like to work this patch, and the one for idle connection timeout, into 2.0. How does everyone feel about that? Mike On Mar 15, 2004, at 6:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL, BUT PLEASE POST YOUR BUG RELATED COMMENTS THROUGH THE WEB INTERFA

Re: 2.0 rc1 leaking sockets?

2004-03-16 Thread Michael Becke
Hi Eric, The multi-threaded connection manager holds on to connections that have been released, but it does not necessarily close them. Connections are only closed if the server sends a "connection: close" header or if HTTP 1.0 is used. There are currently two open bugs that may apply to your

[VOTE][RESULT] Promote HttpClient to Jakarta level

2004-03-16 Thread Michael Becke
Take 2 on this one.. The vote to promote HttpClient has passed. Here are the details: 4 +1 votes (binding) dIon Gillard - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oleg Kalnichevski - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Adrian Sutton - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Michael Becke - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2 +0 votes (binding) Ortwin Glück - [EMA

Re: [VOTE] suspend use of @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Michael Becke
+1 On Mar 16, 2004, at 9:02 PM, Michael Becke wrote: Given the current ambiguity regarding @author tags I propose that we suspend their use for contributors without a CLA on file. This is meant to be a temporary solution until something official is endorsed by the ASF board. Mike ---

[VOTE] suspend use of @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Michael Becke
Given the current ambiguity regarding @author tags I propose that we suspend their use for contributors without a CLA on file. This is meant to be a temporary solution until something official is endorsed by the ASF board. Mike --

Re: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Michael Becke
I agree. Vote forthcoming. Mike On Mar 16, 2004, at 9:21 AM, Kalnichevski, Oleg wrote: In an attempt to reach a conclusion in this seemingly never-ending and fruitless discussion I suggest that as of now we discontinue the use of @author for all contributions submitted by people who have no

2.0 rc1 leaking sockets?

2004-03-16 Thread Eric Bloch
Hi there, I've got a question. I'm using the Multithreaded Connection Manager and I know that I'm always calling releaseConnection() on every connection I use. Are there any reports (or possibilities) that releaseConnection() will fail to close an open socket or lose track of is such that I w

[Fwd: Jakarta Board report - March 2004]

2004-03-16 Thread Jeff Dever
Notes to the board from the PMC. Note the mention of the upcoming HttpClient move to Jakarta top level, and the @author comments. -jsd Original Message Subject: Jakarta Board report - March 2004 Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2004 17:10:43 -0500 From: Geir Magnusson Jr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> R

RE: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Michael McGrady
This is a really good idea, Oleg. I am surprised, frankly, that we allow people to use the @author tags without having signed the agreement first. That would be a real problem. At 06:21 AM 3/16/2004, you wrote: In an attempt to reach a conclusion in this seemingly never-ending and fruitless

RE: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Michael McGrady
+1 At 06:11 AM 3/16/2004, you wrote: Eric, Roland, et al I am a little hesitant to have (some sort of) a formal ranking system due to (1) difficulty to keep it objective. It will inevitably require an arbiter, a someone whose opinion would be regarded as unbiased by the overwhelming majority of

Re: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Michael McGrady
Hello, Roland, you wrote: Your views are founded in your knowledge of the law of the country you work in, while ours are based on news reports about seemingly nonsensical lawsuits filed in the US. This is a media blitz that sells "crap" to the hoi polloi. The truth is that there are few cases fi

Re: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Michael McGrady
Thanks, Roland! You are a balanced mind. Refreshing! I read the IBM and SCO complaint. There is nothing extra-ordinary about that. If someone were taking proprietary code and introducing it into open source, that would be something that should be stopped. The @author tags are not related

Re: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Michael McGrady
+1 What are these "social issues"? I keep hearing the label but don't know the reality. Are they important? If people have troubles, let them have them. That's my take on that sort of thing. At 12:30 AM 3/16/2004, you wrote: Hello Eric, I was thinking about some kind of metrics, too. Not a

RE: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Kalnichevski, Oleg
In an attempt to reach a conclusion in this seemingly never-ending and fruitless discussion I suggest that as of now we discontinue the use of @author for all contributions submitted by people who have not signed Apache CLA . That should address legal conce

RE: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Kalnichevski, Oleg
Eric, Roland, et al I am a little hesitant to have (some sort of) a formal ranking system due to (1) difficulty to keep it objective. It will inevitably require an arbiter, a someone whose opinion would be regarded as unbiased by the overwhelming majority of HttpClient regulars. To me, that wou

Re: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Eric Johnson
Roland Weber wrote: Hello Eric, I was thinking about some kind of metrics, too. Not as advanced as yours, of course :-) But then I felt that a ranking is not the best approach. It may lure people to use tricks just to improve their ranking. Too true. My perspective on this matter is colored by t

Re: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Roland Weber
Hello Michael, I hope this mail is still readable once it is converted to text-only format... > Fuel to this fire, I think, is fine. Why not talk it out? Primarily because this mailing list is not for legal discussion, and we'll never ever "talk it out". You are a lawyer, most of us are not.

Re: @author tags

2004-03-16 Thread Roland Weber
Hello Eric, I was thinking about some kind of metrics, too. Not as advanced as yours, of course :-) But then I felt that a ranking is not the best approach. It may lure people to use tricks just to improve their ranking. There should be something that indicates the kind and volume of contributions