Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 October 2010 02:11, Neil Kandalgaonkar ne...@wikimedia.org wrote: The debate I see on Commons and elsewhere focuses on trying to fix Categories, but frankly IMO it would be better to migrate them to some other systems entirely. :Let me precis several years' wishlisting on the topic: *

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Yes, tags can be translated too. Thanks, GerardM On 29 October 2010 09:32, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2010 02:11, Neil Kandalgaonkar ne...@wikimedia.org wrote: The debate I see on Commons and elsewhere focuses on trying to fix Categories, but frankly IMO

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:32 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2010 02:11, Neil Kandalgaonkar ne...@wikimedia.org wrote: The debate I see on Commons and elsewhere focuses on trying to fix Categories, but frankly IMO it would be better to migrate them to some other

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Krinkle
Op 29 okt 2010, om 10:13 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 8:32 AM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 October 2010 02:11, Neil Kandalgaonkar ne...@wikimedia.org wrote: The debate I see on Commons and elsewhere focuses on trying to fix

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: For one, tags would not be hierarchical and not stored under a name, rather a number (an id if you will). I would store the tag-i18n definitions in a separate Tag: namespace. Then you don't need to create the history tracking

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Krinkle
Op 29 okt 2010, om 14:51 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 1:36 PM, Bryan Tong Minh bryan.tongm...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:25 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: For one, tags would not be hierarchical and not stored under a name,

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Krinkle
Op 29 okt 2010, om 15:01 heeft Bryan Tong Minh het volgende geschreven: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Multilanguage tags, as well as synonyms, could simply be implemented as #REDIRECTs, maybe. [[Tag:Blume]] would redirect to [[Tag:Flower]],

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Op 29 okt 2010, om 14:51 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: Multilanguage tags, as well as synonyms, could simply be implemented as #REDIRECTs, maybe. [[Tag:Blume]] would redirect to [[Tag:Flower]], so a search

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: So [[Tag:Blume]] would never appear in wiki-text. Instead [[Tag:Flower]] or [[Tag:100]] (depending on the sytem we decide to use). And in sidebar (and whereever else tag_i18n is consulted) the currect language appears.

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Krinkle
Op 29 okt 2010, om 15:10 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: Op 29 okt 2010, om 14:51 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: Multilanguage tags, as well as synonyms, could simply be implemented as

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Bryan Tong Minh
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 3:10 PM, Magnus Manske magnusman...@googlemail.com wrote: Another idea: Instead of inventing new syntax or pseudo-HTML tags, why not use language links? On [[Tag:Flower]] [[en:Flower]] [[de:Blume]] Because you want to avoid using a single syntax for multiple purposes

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Krinkle
Op 29 okt 2010, om 15:13 heeft Magnus Manske het volgende geschreven: On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Krinkle krinklem...@gmail.com wrote: So [[Tag:Blume]] would never appear in wiki-text. Instead [[Tag:Flower]] or [[Tag:100]] (depending on the sytem we decide to use). And in sidebar (and

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Typically I am happy with hacks but this is an exception. The terminology used in the categories are not optimal. The use of plural, the use of latin names for organisms.. It is better for people to add new tags because otherwise they think it has to be like that. Thank, GerardM On 29

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-29 Thread Magnus Manske
On Fri, Oct 29, 2010 at 2:21 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijs...@gmail.com wrote: Hoi, Typically I am happy with hacks but this is an exception. The terminology used in the categories are not optimal. The use of plural, the use of latin names for organisms.. It is better for people to add new

[Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-28 Thread Lars Aronsson
Today I attended yet another workshop where a brave volunteer tried to explain the usefulness of Wikimedia Commons to teachers/scientists. During the following exercise, a very computer literate senior geneticist tried to access wikimedia.org and landed on the Wikimedia Foundation website. After

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-28 Thread geni
On 28 October 2010 21:21, Lars Aronsson l...@aronsson.se wrote: Now, the second part. Finding pictures in Commons is really hard. It seems that categories and textual descriptions are added by the uploader, and rarely modified or enhanced by others. Finding a map of bird migration paths

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-28 Thread Gnangarra
Galleries need to be encouraged to higher degree, these galleries work well as a guide but also as a way for potential contributors to identify areas where theres a short fall in available media. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Banksia --- which then links to the species categories directly

Re: [Commons-l] Active projects on Commons

2010-10-28 Thread Gnangarra
oops wrong button hit when new message appeared [?] On 29 October 2010 13:18, Gnangarra gnanga...@gmail.com wrote: Galleries need to be encouraged to higher degree, these galleries work well as a guide but also as a way for potential contributors to identify areas where theres a short fall in