RE: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> i said that, and i was at least partly wrong. see the attached > message from roy. Translation: I did the right thing for ASL v1.1, but only for policy reasons? --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fo

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-02 Thread Danny Angus
Ah, So if I'm right Roy's point is that if the current ASFL is not applicable by reference then the copyright in the refrence is the only relevant statement. It reserves all rights to the copyright holder (ASF), so code released like this may be argued to be not Open Source, and that only the A

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-02 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Rich, > >> What is the rationale for the full text in each and every file? > > ASF Board directive, as it was told to me. I wasn't privy to the decision > making process, but I assume that a determination was made that: > > /* Copyright (C) The Apache Software Foundati

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Santiago Gala
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I think in general ./ or ./index.html should return a human readable form and ./index.xml should give machine readable form of the following Or use the Accept-type: as a selector. Could you clarify your thoughts? I assume that you are refering to the Accept: header as de

RE: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Rich, > What is the rationale for the full text in each and every file? ASF Board directive, as it was told to me. I wasn't privy to the decision making process, but I assume that a determination was made that: /* Copyright (C) The Apache Software Foundation. All rights reserved. * * This

RE: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Noel J. Bergman
> > I think in general ./ or ./index.html should return a human readable > > form and ./index.xml should give machine readable form of the following > Or use the Accept-type: as a selector. Could you clarify your thoughts? I assume that you are refering to the Accept: header as defined by RFC

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-02 Thread Erik Abele
As far as I understand it, the license itself isn't compatible to be referenced from another file. It's quite 'direct' and always relates to the document it is in. IANAL but I think we would need another phrase in the license wich states something like the following: "This license applies to an

Re: Updating source files to have full ASF license

2003-03-02 Thread Rich Bowen
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > Just in case it would be of help to any other project(s), here is a link to > a message I posted earlier tonight to [EMAIL PROTECTED] The message mentions > the > automated process by which I updated every Java file in James to have the > full ASF Li

RE: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > >Guys, does this have much to do with 'community' anymore? From what > > >I've read, it looks like a Java specific project. For the record - this is something which affects *all* committers and the whole apache community - so community@ seems as g

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> I think in general ./ or ./index.html should return a human readable > form and ./index.xml should give machine readable form of the following Or use the Accept-type: as a selector. Dw. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL P

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> Guys, does this have much to do with 'community' anymore? From what > I've read, it looks like a Java specific project. Actually - if done well - it could also be used to resolve APR dependencies; or even (auth) module dependencies. I.e. be able to do ./configure --with-module=mod_aut

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
> I'm in a "just do it" kind of mood. +1 Dw - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-02 Thread Erik Abele
Dion, can you please use the newly created [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list (thanks, Sam) for this sort of topics? Thanks and cheers, Erik Sam Ruby wrote: I'm in a "just do it" kind of mood. I just created a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Noel is the initial moderator. If/when there is an infrastr

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread dion
Nick Chalko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/03/2003 05:56:32 AM: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Nick, > > > > can you explain why there is a need for a subproject and not a > > sub-subproject etc? > > Good question. > > This also releates to "what is a project" . Jakarta , avalon, turbin

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-02 Thread dion
"Craig R. McClanahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/03/2003 05:36:38 AM: [snip] > I've gotten bit by the opposite problem (changing version number in a JAR > filename causing broken build scripts) just as often. > > Wouldn't a reasonable approach to this problem be to make searches for > "com

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-02 Thread dion
Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 02/03/2003 03:12:55 AM: > On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Having a file encode --.type has been > very useful for us. > > > > Yes, it's often different from what the project creates and > distributes, but I (and others) > > have

RE: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-03-02 Thread dion
"Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/03/2003 06:45:42 AM: [snip] > How much should be encoded in a URI, and how much in data associated with > the URI? You seem to be trying to encode all of the data into the URI > naming space. Why not have a single URI for the target, and then t

RE: Maven and community

2003-03-02 Thread dion
Hey Costin, tell me if I'm reading this right: Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/03/2003 05:59:56 AM: > On Fri, 28 Feb 2003, Noel J. Bergman wrote: > > > > Collaboration does happen, now. It's not a future waiting to happen. > > > Is there something that's not happening that spe

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository (was: primary distribution location)

2003-03-02 Thread dion
Nick Chalko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 01/03/2003 05:09:50 AM: > A somewhat standard layout is the important part. > > If we are changing current practice I think > > project/[subproject]/version/(jar|zip|gz|docs|liscenses) > is very good. Sub project is, IMHO, way too fragile to be part of

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-02 Thread Pete Kazmier
> Craig R McClanahan writes: > Wouldn't a reasonable approach to this problem be to make searches > for "commons-foo.jar" return the latest released version, while > searches for "commons-foo-x.y.jar" would return that particular > version? Then, you can have it either way. On the former, one

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-02 Thread Nick Chalko
Costin Manolache wrote: On 1 Mar 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 11:12, Costin Manolache wrote: On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is also redundant information - each jar has a well-defined Manifest that should include version. But I agree - re

Re: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread Nick Chalko
Thansk Sam. Sam Ruby wrote: I'm in a "just do it" kind of mood. I just created a [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list. Noel is the initial moderator. If/when there is an infrastructure.apache.org set up, I'll move the list to there. (currently it is [EMAIL PROTECTED]). If there is significant disse

RE: ASF repository URI syntax

2003-03-02 Thread dion
Yes. Stable URIs are a must. Hence the subproject piece of the directory structure was left out of the maven repository and we went with only. -- dIon Gillard, Multitask Consulting Blog: http://www.freeroller.net/page/dion/Weblog Work: http://www.multitask.com.au -"Noel J.

Re: [proposal] daedalus jar repository

2003-03-02 Thread Costin Manolache
On 1 Mar 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: > On Sat, 2003-03-01 at 11:12, Costin Manolache wrote: > > On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > It is also redundant information - each jar has a well-defined Manifest > > that should include version. > > > > Unfortunately practice and obs