Re: The board is not responsible!

2003-10-23 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:10:39 +0200 (Subject: Re: The board is not responsible!) Santiago Gala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Should there perhaps be such a PMC, or a PMC responsible for all > > mailing lists not managed by any other PMCs? > Who manages those managers that don't manage themselves?

Re: Private mail lists [was: Inappropriate use of announce@]

2003-10-23 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Steven Noels wrote: > Santiago Gala wrote: >>> Just tell them. I think they are all PMC Chairs are subscribed to >>> board, so it should be easy to tell them there to > > Sideway comment from my little peanut gallery: this is (only) the second > time I overheard that PMC chairs can subscribe t

Re: Private mail lists [was: Inappropriate use of announce@]

2003-10-23 Thread Steven Noels
Santiago Gala wrote: When I said: Just tell them. I think they are all PMC Chairs are subscribed to board, so it should be easy to tell them there to Sideway comment from my little peanut gallery: this is (only) the second time I overheard that PMC chairs can subscribe to board@ - in three year

Re: The board is not responsible!

2003-10-23 Thread Santiago Gala
El miércoles, 22 octu, 2003, a las 15:31 Europe/Madrid, Magnus ?or Torfason escribió: Should there perhaps be such a PMC, or a PMC responsible for all mailing lists not managed by any other PMCs? Who manages those managers that don't manage themselves? XXIst century version of the Barber's parado

Private mail lists [was: Inappropriate use of announce@]

2003-10-23 Thread Santiago Gala
El miércoles, 22 octu, 2003, a las 06:18 Europe/Madrid, Phil Steitz escribió: Maybe I am way off base here, but I see the whole community as responsible. The Board and PMCs (relatively stable "authorities") have to exist for legal reasons and to make program-level decisions (including how

Re: Inappropriate use of announce@

2003-10-23 Thread Santiago Gala
El martes, 21 octu, 2003, a las 07:03 Europe/Madrid, Craig R. McClanahan escribió: One of the hardest things for many newcomers to Apache (or other open source cultures that operate similarly) is the brusque-sounding tone of many comments. It's not personal -- it's based on a (shared) goal to

[fyi] IDA Open Source Migration Guidelines by European Commission

2003-10-23 Thread Lars Eilebrecht
Hi, just FYI: the European Commission has published a guide discussing OSS including information about migration from proprietary software to OSS, e.g., it includes a chapter on how to migrate from ISS to the Apache httpd. Further, it mentions Apache James. http://europa.eu.int/ISPO/ida/jsps/inde

Re: Press PR (was Re: The board is not responsible!)

2003-10-23 Thread Joshua Slive
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: > > 1. website (www.apache.org/ "site" module) maintenance > > and improvements/suggestions of userfriendliness of each $tlp sites. > > I believe the website needs to be ultimately controlled by the infrastructure > committee. We used to have a separ

Re: Press PR (was Re: The board is not responsible!)

2003-10-23 Thread Erik Abele
I don't want to be an "enthusiasm blocker" but I have to agree with what Justin already said. Tetsuya, do you think that the suggested split-ups are reducing the amount of bureaucracy we already have in ASF-land? If so, can you please be so kind and elaborate further on this? I'd be fine with

Re: Press PR (was Re: The board is not responsible!)

2003-10-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Thursday, October 23, 2003 11:44 AM +0900 Tetsuya Kitahata <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ?? ... press@ can't be found at http://www.apache.org/mail/ neither eyebrowse. Where can i find the archive (log), by the way? press@ is not a public list. It is the place where PR firms can (and do) cont

Re: Internationalization list/team

2003-10-23 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On Wednesday, October 22, 2003 12:37 PM -0400 "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: As for internationalization, I don't see why it should not be part of Apache Commons. I think that it is exactly the correct place for it. I don't know that it needs a CVS module, but I'm not opposed to

Re: Press PR (was Re: The board is not responsible!)

2003-10-23 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 22 Oct 2003 09:32:49 -0700 (PDT) (Subject: Press PR (was Re: The board is not responsible!)) Dirk-Willem van Gulik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'Public Relations Committee' ... Sounds reasonable. > We've long had the press@ mailing list. We could inflate this in a > slightly bigger PR

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