Make use of announce@ (Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org)

2003-08-29 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:10:04 -0700 (PDT) Brian Behlendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each announce(ments)@tlp.apache.org mailing lists to forward to announce@apache.org automatically...

Re: Make use of announce@ (Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org)

2003-08-29 Thread David Reid
Then perhaps the best solution is for you (or someone else) to write a simple, clear web page detailing all the channels that are typically used to announce projects. Perhaps also including some summary of the ideas and concerns raised in this thread would be appropriate? david - Original

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200 Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it). Regards Henning Ditto: (+1) Also, I think [EMAIL PROTECTED] can use the same script, if the moderators of [EMAIL

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:52:58 -0400 Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This isn't nice. :-( henning, that's a judgement made from too little information. if you were responsible for assessing hundreds of daily messages to that address to see which should be moderated, you would

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-27 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi, I simply stole^Wborrowed the layout from Martins' Torque announcement. I will put Jakarta Turbine in for the final release. Thanks for the suggestion. Regards Henning On Wed, 2003-08-27 at 02:56, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:49:41 +0200 Henning

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org

2003-08-27 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 07:50:16 -0400 (Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org) Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i believe you're missing the point. the issue is not the volume of email, it's imposing the burden on someone *else*. there are several people

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread David Reid
Any reason why you didn't send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] david - Original Message - From: Henning Schmiedehausen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@apache.org Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:07 PM Subject: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returnedpost for [EMAIL

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 10:36, David Reid wrote: Any reason why you didn't send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Because I looked at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html#Announcement and got the intention that announcements@jakarta.apache.org is the right address for jakarta announcements. I did

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread David Reid
As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated through your announcement... If you wish to stick to using the jakarta address them I don't mind and it may reach more of your intended audience - just curious :) david - Original Message - From: Henning

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
As I said, I was just looking on the web pages. Maybe we should update them. Regards Henning On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 12:26, David Reid wrote: As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated through your announcement... If you wish to stick

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
David Reid wrote: As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated through your announcement... unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an @apache.org address will even reach the announce@apache.org moderation queue. all other sources will get

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003 07:53:50 -0400 Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David Reid wrote: As one of the moderators for announce@apache.org I'd have happily moderated through your announcement... unless something has been changed, only mail originating from an @apache.org

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Thom May
* Tetsuya Kitahata ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : Wait, wait. If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each announce(ments)@tlp.apache.org mailing lists to forward to announce@apache.org automatically... Right!? wrong. -Thom

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread David Reid
And a very sensible one at that! :) david - Original Message - From: Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: community@apache.org Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:53 PM Subject: Re: No answer from announcements@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for [EMAIL PROTECTED] David

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Which should be documented somewhere (or I was too blind to see it). Regards Henning On Tue, 2003-08-26 at 14:00, David Reid wrote: And a very sensible one at that! :) david - Original Message - From: Rodent of Unusual Size [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi, now I know a reason: --- cut --- Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. announce@apache.org: Must be sent from an @apache.org address.

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Hi, now I know a reason: --- cut --- Hi. This is the qmail-send program at apache.org. I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses. This is a permanent error; I've given up. Sorry it didn't work out. announce@apache.org:

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each announce(ments)@tlp.apache.org mailing lists to forward to announce@apache.org automatically... Right!? Nope, in fact I was arguing against it, unless someone crafts a message to let the

RE: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd:Returnedpost for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-26 Thread Noel J. Bergman
If I remember correctly, Brian modified the settings of each announce(ments)@tlp.apache.org mailing lists to forward to announce@apache.org automatically... Right!? It was discussed, but I don't believe that it was effected. Brian had some concerns. See the community@ archives. ---

No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returned post for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-25 Thread Henning Schmiedehausen
Hi, who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by the mailing list program. :-( Regards Henning -Forwarded Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returned post for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-25 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
It is possible that the moderator of that list did not moderate the mail. # To tell the truth, I got bounced mail recently, too. :-) Anyway, I think it will be important to make it easier for us to find who are moderating XX mailing lists in the near future. (Using committers module??) --

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returned post for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-25 Thread Brian Behlendorf
I don't think it's acceptable for moderators to miss valid messages, even with the spam that comes through. However the last few weeks have been so chaotic with mail systems that it wouldn't surprise me if they just missed these, or the messages were lost along the way, or something. Anyways, I

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org

2003-08-25 Thread André Malo
* Brian Behlendorf wrote: I don't think it's acceptable for moderators to miss valid messages, even with the spam that comes through. Agreed, but ... If anyone else has had valid messages rejected by moderators, please let the corresponding PMC be aware of that. If you don't get a

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returned post for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-25 Thread Christian Geisert
Henning Schmiedehausen schrieb: Hi, who must I send this to if I want something to be put on the announcement list? This lingered for a week and then got returned by the mailing list program. :-( Why don't you subscribe to the list (or I am missing something?) Christian

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returned post for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-25 Thread Steven Noels
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: Anyway, I think it will be important to make it easier for us to find who are moderating XX mailing lists in the near future. You can also politely poll [EMAIL PROTECTED] /Steven -- Steven Noelshttp://outerthought.org/ Outerthought - Open

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returned post for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-25 Thread Tetsuya Kitahata
On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 20:14:57 +0200 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I think it will be important to make it easier for us to find who are moderating XX mailing lists in the near future. You can also politely poll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ahh... right, right. Nice catch :) --

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returned post for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-25 Thread Brian Behlendorf
On Tue, 26 Aug 2003, Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: But.. I assumed that listowner != moderator and most of the mail lists in apache.org were owned by 1. Mr. Jon Scott Stevens 2. Mr. Ken Coar 3. Mr. Dirk-Willem van Gulik 4. Mr. Pier Paulo Fumagalli right!?!? I am afraid that if those who

Re: No answer from announceme...@jakarta.apache.org [Fwd: Returned post for announceme...@jakarta.apache.org]

2003-08-25 Thread Rodent of Unusual Size
Steven Noels wrote: You can also politely poll [EMAIL PROTECTED] for most of the apache lists, that gets turned into a single person when ezmlm [re]configures the list. it requires special handling to change that to be the moderators. only four lists are currently so configured: