Re: Itch2: Trivial to use Go game program

2007-02-04 Thread Evgeny
Sounds pretty good, maybe add to this kind of programm possibilty to play online with another people, after teaching process. In this case it wil turn even more usable. On 1/25/07, Aloril <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Go program that would allow start playing Go without even reading rules. Animatio

Re: Tuning fork, (was: music applications: piano, drum, bell...)

2007-02-04 Thread Carlo E. Prelz
Subject: Tuning fork, (was: music applications: piano, drum, bell...) Date: lun 05 feb 07 07:16:49 +0100 Quoting Marnix Klooster ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > And what about an electronic tuner for my guitar? Of course with > support for alternative tunings. Oh, and while we're at it,

Tuning fork, (was: music applications: piano, drum, bell...)

2007-02-04 Thread Marnix Klooster
On 31-01-07 03:39, kkr wrote in part: [...] we would be able to built a music application like a piano (or synthesizer). Sound would be different according to the force exercised by the finger (Like a true one, or, at least, a more realistic). And of course, to be able of playing several notes s

Re: graphics hardware; OpenVG

2007-02-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On 2/4/07, Jon Phillips <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Well, you would want to add openvg support lower than X11. You should talk to the X and Cairo developers about this. Well I wondered how a standard like that can improve application portability. QT, X, and OpenGL (and GTK) are all somewhat por

Re: X bit depth, Evas toolkit

2007-02-04 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Cheers Gustavo, good work on Canola - congrats! > I would like to confirm if HW/X11 is 16bpp. Confirmed. > And I would like to invite you to join us to port/optimize Evas > toolkit to operate on 16bpp internally (it does on 24bpp + 8 alpha). Sounds good. I'm a strong supporter of EFL since yea

X bit depth, Evas toolkit

2007-02-04 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
Hi Guys, I'm from the Canola team (multimedia app for Maemo) and I'm interested in OpenMoko (that's my personal opinion, etc etc etc). I would like to confirm if HW/X11 is 16bpp. And I would like to invite you to join us to port/optimize Evas toolkit to operate on 16bpp internally (it does on 2

Re: Neo1973 video (was Re: What would be a realistic but challenging level for Bryce announced trophy money for video playback on the Neo1973? Re: h.264 format is now open?)

2007-02-04 Thread Siarhei Siamashka
On Saturday 03 February 2007 15:47, you wrote: > Also, the 770 has a landscape display. We have a portrait display. The > S3C2410 cannot rotate the image, so you would have to rotate every frame > in software, too! That's a good point. Anyway, rotation can be combined with scaling or color form

Re: Neo1973 video (was Re: What would be a realistic but challenging level for Bryce announced trophy money for video playback on the Neo1973? Re: h.264 format is now open?)

2007-02-04 Thread Mikko Rauhala
su, 2007-02-04 kello 18:28 -0500, Bryce Leo kirjoitti: > I'm sorry guys... but instead of flipping the video or worrying about > re-coding... how bout a non-techical solution. Rotate the Device > You certainly wouldn't catch me wanting to watch a video in portrait > modethat would ruin the

Re: Neo1973 video (was Re: What would be a realistic but challenging level for Bryce announced trophy money for video playback on the Neo1973? Re: h.264 format is now open?)

2007-02-04 Thread Bryce Leo
I'm sorry guys... but instead of flipping the video or worrying about re-coding... how bout a non-techical solution. Rotate the Device You certainly wouldn't catch me wanting to watch a video in portrait modethat would ruin the whole thing. Why would you want to watch a video in portrait m

Re: Tinymail on it?

2007-02-04 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 05:12 +, Jon Phillips wrote: > > I very recently started playing a little bit with the SyncML API, and > > since it's not very difficult to get something basic working I might > > implement some support for this sooner or later too. > > Yes, this would be amazingly stel

Re: mail and contacts app

2007-02-04 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 11:24 -0800, Jon Phillips wrote: > Do these changes seem to speed up your app and possibly could speed up > Evolution in general? I'm having great fun with these apps because of > their speed (almost to the point of where I want to use them full-time > rather than "crashy" ev

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Robert Michel writes: > >On Sun, 04 Feb 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > >> Robert Michel writes: >> >> >> >> You can still use phones made in 60's, are you sure touchscreen will >> >> survive 40 years too? ;-) >> > >> >First I was comparing mobil phones, second, because the touchscreen >> >has no mech

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Oleg! Oleg L. Sverdlov schrieb am Sonntag, den 04. Februar 2007 um 23:36h: > All this is good. > a) how the company (FIC) is supposed to make a profit by manufacturing > less phones? Who is saying that FIC should produce less phones ;) When FIC is producing phones which are usable 2-5 lo

Re: Tinymail on it?

2007-02-04 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 11:06 -0800, Jon Phillips wrote: > > Oh, this is great news indeed. I installed the Contacts and Dates apps > from openhanded with no troubles, but when I tried to install Tinymail, > I need the customized libraries. Are there instructions for how to do a > build, where to f

Wiki pdf / images

2007-02-04 Thread Richard Bennett
Hi, I am trying to add a pdf and some images to an openmoko wiki page http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/AtFOSDEM , but the 'attach file' option in 'More actions' is grayed out. Can attaching files be allowed, or am I doing something wrong? Richard

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Joe! On Sun, 04 Feb 2007, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Robert Michel writes: > >> > >> You can still use phones made in 60's, are you sure touchscreen will > >> survive 40 years too? ;-) > > > >First I was comparing mobil phones, second, because the touchscreen > >has no mechanical parts, I think

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Oleg L. Sverdlov
All this is good. a) how the company (FIC) is supposed to make a profit by manufacturing less phones? b) let's say my phone will last 10 years . How can I be sure that my cellular provider will use the same technology for many years (with only software upgrades required)? There are companies

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Robert Michel writes: >> >> You can still use phones made in 60's, are you sure touchscreen will >> survive 40 years too? ;-) > >First I was comparing mobil phones, second, because the touchscreen >has no mechanical parts, I think it is possible to produce this >touchscreen in a way, that >> 80% a

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Tomasz! On Sun, 04 Feb 2007, Tomasz Zielinski wrote: > 2007/2/4, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > >Don't get me wrong, I don't ask for making all better from the > >beginning - but on the longterm, it would be nice to promote > >OpenMoko/Neo1973 also with ecological criterias. > > "

Re: enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Tomasz Zielinski
2007/2/4, Robert Michel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Don't get me wrong, I don't ask for making all better from the beginning - but on the longterm, it would be nice to promote OpenMoko/Neo1973 also with ecological criterias. "Average OpenMoko user takes a bath once a week. iPhone user takes a shower

Re: graphics hardware; OpenVG

2007-02-04 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 00:48 -0700, Shawn Rutledge wrote: > What kind of framebuffer architecture is the Neo going to use? Is > there graphics acceleration of any kind? Or is the processor's own > framebuffer hardware being used directly? > > I've been doing some framebuffer graphics on the Zauru

Re: Q: How does USB hubs work? Re: Multiple USB Devices

2007-02-04 Thread Harald Welte
On Sat, Feb 03, 2007 at 09:15:54AM -0700, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Harald Welte writes: > >> > >> My understanding is that it will be USB On-The-Go, > > > >No. OTG is a complex specification, and it comprises way more than just > >a AB socket, but also electrical and software components which we ca

Re: mail and contacts app

2007-02-04 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 13:16 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 16:30 -0800, Jon Phillips wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 17:21 -0700, Richi Plana wrote: > > > > The thread started here: > > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-January/73.html > > > >

RE: OpenMoko at Oreilly Emerging Telephony Conference

2007-02-04 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sat, 2007-02-03 at 22:37 -0800, David Schlesinger wrote: > Same here. > Wait, Sean, you are in the bay area right now? Yah, maybe we should get together once the device is launched ... Also, I'm putting on the Creative Commons Salon on FEB 21 at shinesf.com, which is a good place to meet regar

Re: Tinymail on it?

2007-02-04 Thread Jon Phillips
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 12:44 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 05:12 +, Jon Phillips wrote: > > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 01:56 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > > > I already asked it to some internal E-mail address, the reaction back > > > then was positive but no real certaintie

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-04 Thread michael
On Sun, 4 Feb 2007, Ian Stirling wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > Harald Welte wrote: > > > > I searched the different hardware specs and archives of the > > > > mailing list but > > > > didn't find any information if LEDs will be

Airplain mode Re: Cellular usage

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Kyle! Wellcome to the openmoko community mailinglist ;) On Sun, 04 Feb 2007, Kyle wrote: > I hope I am posting this properly. I was thinking about my infrequent > airline trips and their dislike of cell phones. Is there any possibility > to turn off the transmitter in software? Yes the ha

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-04 Thread Ian Stirling
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Ian Stirling writes: We really want buttons with changable logos - http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ However, the only sort-of-practical way to do this is to use one internal 50*10mm or so OLED display, with 4-8 hardware buttons on top of it, which are transpare

Cellular usage

2007-02-04 Thread Kyle
I hope I am posting this properly. I was thinking about my infrequent airline trips and their dislike of cell phones. Is there any possibility to turn off the transmitter in software? Kyle ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-04 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Ian Stirling writes: > >We really want buttons with changable logos - >http://www.artlebedev.com/everything/optimus/ >However, the only sort-of-practical way to do this is to use one >internal 50*10mm or so OLED display, with 4-8 hardware buttons on top of >it, which are transparent, and designe

enviroment friendly development for v2?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! I don't know how much enviroment friendly development was criteria for the v1 - but this point would be nice to consider - at last for v2: > http://www.greenpeace.org/international/campaigns/toxics/electronics/copy-of-how-the-companies-line OpenMoko will enable the user to use the phone mu

Re: Thoughts about Bluetooth equipement - does somebody knows a Bluetooth camera?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! It seems that http://www.bluetooth.com/ has a good overview - we could pick devices from their when they are supported with Linux. Somethink like linux-usb.org would be nice. Robert Michel schrieb am Sonntag, den 04. Februar 2007 um 15:34h: > So what more? Are there digital cameras with

Thoughts about Bluetooth equipement - does somebody knows a Bluetooth camera?

2007-02-04 Thread Robert Michel
Salve! Some thoughts about Bluetooth equipment: -Keyboard -Mouse -Headset -Carkit -PC/Laptop/Router with Bluetooth -printer -soundgateway(?) -embedded devices with Bluetooth -other bluetooth mobiles to do converence calls or when the Neo1973 v1 hasn't GPRS class A - to use GRPS while phoning *g*

Re: Handy application ideas

2007-02-04 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Saturday 03 February 2007 22:34:10 Tomasz Zielinski wrote: > 2007/2/2, kkr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > ...Because, I presume that the thief will do very quickly a hard reset. > > There is no such thing like "restore to factory default" in Neo1973. > What you load to flash memory, will remain there.

Re: graphics hardware; OpenVG

2007-02-04 Thread pHilipp Zabel
On 2/4/07, Shawn Rutledge <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What kind of framebuffer architecture is the Neo going to use? Is there graphics acceleration of any kind? Or is the processor's own framebuffer hardware being used directly? It uses the S3C2410's integrated LCD controller with the framebuf

Re: Neo1973 video (was Re: What would be a realistic but challenging level for Bryce announced trophy money for video playback on the Neo1973? Re: h.264 format is now open?)

2007-02-04 Thread Ortwin Regel
Since you're going to have to reencode your videos for OpenMoko anyway, they could easily be prerotated in the process. That's what we were doing on the Tapwave Zodiac until the amazing people from CoreCodec worked their magic. On 2/4/07, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mikko Rauhala wro

Re: Neo1973 video

2007-02-04 Thread Mikko Rauhala
su, 2007-02-04 kello 12:14 +, Ian Stirling kirjoitti: > Mikko Rauhala wrote: > > Also, as re-encoding files spesifically for the Neo would be quite ok > > with me, rotating at that point would be quite a workable solution also. > > (I'll add that I don't necessarily expect the Neo1973 to play b

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-04 Thread Ian Stirling
Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Gabriel Ambuehl writes: On Saturday 03 February 2007 18:50:02 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Which is utterly sad, given I'm such a big fan of Blinkenlights... Trying to make sure we get a couple of multicolor LEDs in v2 ;) Much as I love flashing lights (there's just something *wron

Re: mail and contacts app

2007-02-04 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 16:30 -0800, Jon Phillips wrote: > On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 17:21 -0700, Richi Plana wrote: > > The thread started here: > > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/openmoko-devel/2007-January/73.html > > > > Does that make it three versions of EDS we're talking about (the Nov

Re: Tinymail on it?

2007-02-04 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Sun, 2007-02-04 at 12:44 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > It looks like that mailing list is an invite-only one, or else isn't the > mailman on the server working correctly (I haven't yet received a > confirmation E-mail). Nevermind, I received it. It should work now :) -- Philip Van Hoof, s

Re: Neo1973 video (was Re: What would be a realistic but challenging level for Bryce announced trophy money for video playback on the Neo1973? Re: h.264 format is now open?)

2007-02-04 Thread Ian Stirling
Mikko Rauhala wrote: la, 2007-02-03 kello 14:47 +0100, Harald Welte kirjoitti: Also, the 770 has a landscape display. We have a portrait display. The S3C2410 cannot rotate the image, so you would have to rotate every frame in software, too! Modifying a player to render the image to be rotate

Re: Posibility to get status informations with the help of a LED

2007-02-04 Thread Ian Stirling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 3 Feb 2007, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Harald Welte wrote: I searched the different hardware specs and archives of the mailing list but didn't find any information if LEDs will be one part of the hardware. AFAIK the Neo1973 v1 will have no LEDs (beside

Re: Tinymail on it?

2007-02-04 Thread Philip Van Hoof
On Fri, 2007-02-02 at 05:12 +, Jon Phillips wrote: > On Thu, 2007-02-01 at 01:56 +0100, Philip Van Hoof wrote: > > I already asked it to some internal E-mail address, the reaction back > > then was positive but no real certainties. > > > > Is there interest from the OpenMoko team for bringing