the following note caught my eye:
[from http://handhelds.org/moin/moin.cgi/OpenEmbedded]
*Note:* since 0.8.4, Familiar now uses its own forked version of
OpenEmbedded (forked for stability) in order to build packages.
Question -- from this list, IIIRC, OpenMoko has not forked
OpenEmbedded.
On Saturday 24 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am 23.05.2008 um 20:49 schrieb Lorn Potter:
If anyone is in the position to change that, it's we.
I don't like so sound to negative. I like most of the changes.
But i think throwing the gtk apps away and replace them by the QTopia
apps
On Saturday 24 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just wanted to add that I think Qtopia is very interesting, and I'm
really looking forward to trying it on my neo, and thank you to Trolltech
for helping out with getting it on X11 and on the neo, and for putting up
with all the criticism.
No
It would be great if someone who has used or is otherwise aware of the
feature sets of the Freerunner, HTC, and other smart phones to compare
and contrast these.
I was especially worried about a posting a day or two ago saying that
the Freerunner is 1990s era hardware. I would like to know
Hi,
As I know, Qtopia phone edition is not free if we get the full
functioned version!
That was true the last year bun since september is under the GPL
The commercial use should pay fee to Trolltech. Is
it OK for Openmoko?
The GPL permits commercial use.
On Saturday 24 May 2008, Bin Chen wrote:
Hi,
As I know, Qtopia phone edition is not free if we get the full
functioned version! The commercial use should pay fee to Trolltech. Is
it OK for Openmoko?
Thanks.
Bin
This was true, but last September Trolltech changed the licensing to include
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Thanks for that! I have not seen it laid out so clearly, that will help the
Melbourne group immensely.
Cheers
Dennis
Simon Matthews wrote:
Hi,
I think there are a few mistakes in the calculations i have seen for
importing the Freerunners into
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Al Johnson
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On Saturday 24 May 2008, Bin Chen wrote:
Hi,
As I know, Qtopia phone edition is not free if we get the full
functioned version! The commercial use should pay fee to Trolltech. Is
it OK for Openmoko?
Thanks.
Bin
This
I am not to sure how many people have seen the Neo software stack diagram
on the wiki but after looking at it there really should not be a GTK Vs
Qtopia argument any more. But I do wonder how Android fits in?
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/NeoSoftwareStack
Rakshat
Bin Chen ha scritto:
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Al Johnson
Until now some Qtopia components, like the telephony, DRM and the safe
execution environment software stacks, were only available under the
commercial development license.
So how about the telephony parts of QT in moko, we need
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Al Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Comparing with the FreeRunner hardware wiki page:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_GTA02_Hardware
Comms: Freerunner only has
Am Samstag 24 Mai 2008 14:24:37 schrieb Bin Chen:
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Al Johnson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Saturday 24 May 2008, Bin Chen wrote:
Hi,
As I know, Qtopia phone edition is not free if we get the full
functioned version! The commercial use should pay fee to
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Now it works,
well done.
Kevin Dean schrieb:
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Am Samstag 24 Mai 2008 14:47:03 schrieb rakshat hooja:
I am not to sure how many people have seen the Neo software stack diagram
on the wiki but after looking at it there really should not be a GTK Vs
Qtopia argument any more. But I do wonder how Android fits in?
Marcel
Isn't this diagram outdated?
the wiki history suggests it was posted earlier this month.
we could speculate about android. It ostensibly just requires the
linux kernel but there would have to be some wiring to drive the
neo-specific stuff correctly.
--
Brad
On 24 May 2008, at 11:45, Al Johnson wrote:
On Saturday 24 May 2008, Ajit Natarajan wrote:
It would be great if someone who has used or is otherwise aware of
the
feature sets of the Freerunner, HTC, and other smart phones to
compare
and contrast these.
I was especially worried about a
Marcel ha scritto:
Am Samstag 24 Mai 2008 14:47:03 schrieb rakshat hooja:
I am not to sure how many people have seen the Neo software stack diagram
on the wiki but after looking at it there really should not be a GTK Vs
Qtopia argument any more. But I do wonder how Android fits in?
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Marcel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Am Samstag 24 Mai 2008 14:47:03 schrieb rakshat hooja:
I am not to sure how many people have seen the Neo software stack diagram
on the wiki but after looking at it there really should not be a GTK Vs
Qtopia argument any more.
On Sunday 25 May 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So how about the telephony parts of QT in moko, we need to develop by
ourself or use commercial version instead?
Bin
Qtopia Phone GPL version contains all of the parts needed. Qtopia Phone is
completely open source.
A Neo running Qtopia GPL is
All of the initial phones that ship from Openmoko.com are planned to ship
with the legacy version of the Openmoko Stack and it's GTK applications.
The base set of applications, dialer, SMS, and contacts, have been released
to manufacturing. So anyone who wants to take this release and build on
Guillermo may be bale to help.
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Steven Le Roux wrote:
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 1:39 PM, Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Al Johnson
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Comparing with the FreeRunner hardware wiki page:
Steven Le Roux wrote:
and we are talking about a phone... so the camera... is clearly NOT
a priority for a first phone;..
fortunately there is no keyboard ;) ! or where's the point with the
touchscreen...
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Steven Le Roux
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From: Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:51:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Video of production device?
Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
Having had a chance to briefly poke around at the ASU, I think that's
a great choice. :)
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 2:10 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All of the initial phones that ship from Openmoko.com are planned to ship
with the legacy version of the Openmoko Stack and it's GTK
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From: rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Sat, 24 May 2008 18:17:03 +0530
Subject: Qtopia Vs. GTK or both?
I am not to sure how many people have seen the Neo software stack diagram
on the wiki but after looking at it there really
If you can type as fast on a touch screen as I can on a properly sized thumb
keyboard, you are a magician.
If you can type on a properly sized thumb keyboard, as quickly as I
can on a fold up bluetooth keyboard, then you are a magician. And if I
can type as quickly on a fold up bluetooth
If you can pull a rabbit out of a hat whilst typing on a normal
keyboard you are indeed a magician!
2008/5/24 Federico Lorenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
If you can type as fast on a touch screen as I can on a properly sized thumb
keyboard, you are a magician.
If you can type on a properly sized
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 4:04 PM, t3st3r [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Fri, 23 May 2008 18:51:00 -0600
Subject: Re: Video of production device?
Is there
Hi,
As ASU switched to Qt, to ensure the coexistence of GTK+ and QT, the
backend should be chosen to X11. As I know, QTE only support
framebuffer backend, so OM use desktop QT but not QTE?
Thanks.
Bin
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Qt has been adapted for X11. This is why GTK apps will still be supported.
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Bin Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
As ASU switched to Qt, to ensure the coexistence of GTK+ and QT, the
backend should be chosen to X11. As I know, QTE only support
framebuffer
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