Hi Dan,
Thank you very much for your speedy response. I will forward this mail to the
mailinglist.
Kind regards,
Yorick
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:16:00 +0200
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: InvisibleSHIELD UPDATE/QUESTION
Hallo Yorick
your email / contact
Jisakiel wrote:
Let's see if I understood correctly the concepts involved here, as I am still
a little bit confused...
- TTFF is when no almanac data is available. Unlike what's specified in
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner , is not 40 seconds but 12
minutes (nosmall difference).
Joseph Reeves wrote:
It's a bit of a pain, but I'm convinced it will be worth it. I
*really* want Openmoko to be at the top.
*snip*
, but
don't vote just because I want my work emails to be really nice, vote
for the good of Openmoko!
I agree; right now almost nobody knows we exist, it would be
Hi, i recieved a mail from Dan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
Hi Yorick,
I just received a call from DHL that they are waiting for something to
clear customs. It looks like it is an Openmoko device. I appreciate
your efforts with getting the device for us, but there is a fee for
creating a Custom order
On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 14:18:14 -0700
Brian C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I voted for this. I want something that will synchronize my
email/contacts/calendar between my Freerunner and my GNU/Linux laptop.
I'm willing to adopt different software on the laptop (Thunderbird +
Lightning, Evolution,
Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://xkcd.com/149/
Damn, that was funny;). I'm probably over tired, though. Didn't expect
that..
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Esben Stien is [EMAIL PROTECTED] s a
http://www. s tn m
irc://irc. b - i . e/%23contact
I don't know if anyone on the list is planning on attending the last H.O.P.E.
(http://www.thelasthope.org/) but I could easily see the groups overlapping.
It's in NYC a couple weeks after the dates suggested by Steve a week or so ago.
(Steve was talking about July 1st/4th, HOPE is July 18-20)
- lifetime warranty
i always wonder about these -- whose lifetime is it? if the device in
question is defect it's dead, isn't it?
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Vincent MEURISSE ha scritto:
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Welcome to our newest member, openmoko
-
:) and what do you vote for ??
me : +1 for openmoko
[snip]
I don't need it
The demand for converged mobile devices is accelerating. By 2010
we expect four billion people to have joined the global mobile
conversation. For many of these people, their mobile will be their
first Internet experience, not just their first camera, music player
or phone.
Yorick Matthys [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So my question is: is someone willing to become a reseller for these
screen and case protectors? It seemed to me that there was quite a bit
of interest in it.
I'll also mail this to Lucas Bonnet from Bearstech (where I have
pre-ordered my Freerunner,
arne anka wrote:
- lifetime warranty
i always wonder about these -- whose lifetime is it? if the device in
question is defect it's dead, isn't it?
Of course when the freerunner is defect they are not going to buy you a new
freerunner. Otherwise people would jsut put an invisbleshield on
arne anka wrote:
- lifetime warranty
i always wonder about these -- whose lifetime is it? if the device in
question is defect it's dead, isn't it?
Of course when the freerunner is defect they are not going to buy you a new
freerunner. Otherwise people would jsut put an invisbleshield on
Hmmm shame AGPS is not yet implemented, as 14d seems pretty reasonable as a
requisite, as well as 30 seconds to fix (I somehow doubt it would fix as quick
inside a building or in the city, but...). For the project to be viable I guess
we (as we are 3 on that university project) would have to
- lifetime warranty
i always wonder about these -- whose lifetime is it? if the device in
question is defect it's dead, isn't it?
Of course when the freerunner is defect they are not going to buy you a
new freerunner.
i wasn't talking about the freerunner but the invisible shield thingy.
I haven't read the previous messages about this topic...so my first question:
how much does it cost?
generally: yes, I'm interested and would buy one (if it is not to expensive) ;)
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 07:39:58 +
Von: Yorick Matthys [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sorry but half of my reply did not come through:
From their site:
The lifetime replacement guarantee is simply what it says. If your
invisibleSHIELD™ ever becomes scratched, torn or damaged in any way
while protecting your device, we will replace the invisibleSHIELD™ for
free, for life.
Q:
you can find tons of examples on their site
eg:
http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield/htc-touch-diamond-cases-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php
12$ for the screen protector
25$ for the whole device
(shipping free worldwide)
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 1:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I
thanks...I don't have a credit card, so I can't buy there I think (me is from
germany)
Original-Nachricht
Datum: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 13:53:59 +0200
Von: Yorick Moko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
An: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Betreff: Re:
atm there's an ongoing discussion whether distributors split the first
time fee and sell the the iv shield, pulster is one of them, i think.
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Well if you mean obtain coordinates via triangulation it is
technically possible but in reality we are constrained by the GSM
operators and what information they are willing to give us. If you are
a large corporation such as Google and throw them some money you will
get access to such data. As Joe
Hi,
I have prepared docbook format documentation for
http://quickstart.openmoko.org/. The .xml and generated .html is
available from:
svn checkout svn://svn.projects.openmoko.org/svnroot/qsug
Please review it, and let me know of any changes. Will need to add
pictures, and fill-in the
Their software looks interesting. I would strongly consider paying
the monthly subscription to run that on my Neo.
-Steven
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://blip.tv/file/1017626
Dash http://www.dash.net/
was developed by FIC/OpenMoko for Dash
Look who are sued:
Palm, Nokia, Aplle, Dell...
I thought most of them were doing this for years. :P
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:12 PM, Daniel Mewes [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi everyone,
Typhoon Touch Technologies has initiated legal measures against
different companies with reasonings
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:12:36 +0200
Daniel Mewes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi everyone,
Typhoon Touch Technologies has initiated legal measures against
different companies with reasonings including - but not limited to -
producing touch screen driven smartphones, as far as I understand it.
Atilla Filiz writes:
Look who are sued:
Palm, Nokia, Aplle, Dell...
I thought most of them were doing this for years. :P
Any fisherman will tell you that you don't start reeling in when the
fish first nibbles the hook, you wait until they've had time to really
take a solid bite.
Patent trolls
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Daniel Mewes escreveu:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1Sect2=HITOFFd=PALLp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htmr=1f=Gl=50s1=5675362.PN.OS=PN/5675362RS=PN/5675362
This one is from 1997 and Palm PDAs, for instance, exist at least
the first one dates from 1995.
did anyone care to read it fully and can say if it is really soemthing
else then a troll's catch-all?
On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:11:26 +0200, Adilson Oliveira
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Great!
One comment on Chapter 7:
Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support
for dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later
date.
That is not accurate (at least for OSX). See:
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/MacOS_X
There is also an Openmoko
Perhaps I should also post my personal opinion about this and I think
there are different possibilities what may happen:
1. The patents are valid (don't think so)
1.1 After successfully suing Apple, Dell and so on, Typhoon will
continue with suing smaller companies like OpenMoko. Probably they
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear all,
I'd like to bring this poll to your attention:
http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbrame-j2me-client/12642-vote-phones-zimbra-j2me-client.html
For those that don't know, Zimbra is an awesome email/collaboration
Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO.
For the first time I have been able to make and receive phone calls on a
gta02 without hassle. GTK+ software could no do this, qtopia software
cannot do this.
And the best of it is, this was on my broken GTA02 where the gsm is
about as reliable
Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO.
link? the wiki does not know about fso.
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http://businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2008/tc20080623_505287.htm
note that 3G royalties add $45 to iPhone cost of goods sold.
Apple's 58 pct. gross margin is ultra sweet for
consumer electronics market.
Ron K. Jeffries
http://www.retaggr.com/Card/RonKJeffries
Hi!
--- On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 7:59 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
| One comment on Chapter 7:
| Currently, the utility dfu_util is only provided for Linux. Support for
| dfu_util under Windows and Macintosh will be provided at a later date.
|
| That is not accurate (at
maybe this can help:
http://downloads.openmoko.org/framework/milestone1/
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/Status_Update_1
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/OpenmokoFramework/Status_Update_2
(I could be entirely wrong..)
But I would
I've seen the past and there is nothing about FSO.
WTF is FSO? ;-)
Graeme Gregory escribió:
Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO.
For the first time I have been able to make and receive phone calls on a
gta02 without hassle. GTK+ software could no do this, qtopia software
FSO QT GTK ASU GLX. Pick the odd one out :)
On 6/24/08, Kosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've seen the past and there is nothing about FSO.
WTF is FSO? ;-)
Graeme Gregory escribió:
Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO.
For the first time I have been able to make and receive
And how many 3g modules do you think they ordered? Knock off a few
zeros and you get the quantity that Openmoko would buy.
On 6/24/08, Ron K. Jeffries [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://businessweek.com/technology/content/jun2008/tc20080623_505287.htm
note that 3G royalties add $45 to iPhone cost
Hello,
I'm a bit confused. I thought the max. would be 1 Amp the Freerunner can be
charged. But on pulster.de which are selling the offical usb-charger for the
freerunner is written that it can be charged with 2 Amp:
http://pulster.de/d__omnetz__Openmoko_Freerunner_Netzteil993.htm . What's now
On 2008-06-24, Marc-Olivier Barre [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear all,
I'd like to bring this poll to your attention:
http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbrame-j2me-client/12642-vote-phones-zimbra-j2me-client.html
For
You can use any charger that will provide the minimum current that the
freerunner needs to charge with. From the previous discussions, I believe the
freerunner will only draw a max of 1 amp from any charger that is able to
supply that current. You probably wouldn't want a low current device
On 2008-06-24, kazaam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I'm a bit confused. I thought the max. would be
1 Amp the Freerunner can be charged. But on
pulster.de which are selling the offical
usb-charger for the freerunner is written that it
can be charged with 2 Amp:
Graeme Gregory wrote:
Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO.
Great work !!
FSO is the future.
- doron
For the first time I have been able to make and receive phone calls on a
gta02 without hassle. GTK+ software could no do this, qtopia software
cannot do this.
And the
It is known that the way you charge a battery influences the lifetime.
Have there been any tests as to which is the best way to charge the
freerunner?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 6:33 PM, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2008-06-24, kazaam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I'm
Joseph Reeves wrote:
Dear all,
I'd like to bring this poll to your attention:
http://www.zimbra.com/forums/zimbrame-j2me-client/12642-vote-phones-zimbra-j2me-client.html
Sorry, nobody wants this on a smartphone. Why implement features that we
100% need on the platform anyways.
And you
1. Is this FLOSS ?
I think it is not FLOSS:(
Its not clear. I think this is the Rich J2ME Client app, which is FLOSS.
At the very bottom:
http://www.zimbra.com/products/product_editions.html
Sorry, nobody wants this on a smartphone. Why implement features that we
100% need on the platform
Sorry, nobody wants this on a smartphone.
the replies to the op suggest otherwise.
if everything zimbra wants is a sufficient number of votes and they do the
porting themselves -- why not? it broadens the number of available
applications and thus the choice.
and choice is a large part of
Am Di 24. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Moko:
It is known that the way you charge a battery influences the lifetime.
Have there been any tests as to which is the best way to charge the
freerunner?
Nope, didn't find the time to do the expected 500 charge/discharge cycles ;-)
Honestly, this is
What will be the best way to take advantage of Open Street Maps?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Main_Page
A Free phone can't be depending of closed-source data for maps (google
or others) ;) So we must be able to use OSM! (as well as contributing
the project!)
What will be the best way to take advantage of Open Street Maps?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Main_Page
A Free phone can't be depending of closed-source data for maps (google
or others) ;) So we must be able to use OSM! (as well as contributing
the project!)
What will be the best way to take advantage of Open Street Maps?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Main_Page
A Free phone can't be depending of closed-source data for maps (google
or others) ;) So we must be able to use OSM! (as well as contributing
the project!)
www.tangogps.org
2008/6/24 Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What will be the best way to take advantage of Open Street Maps?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Main_Page
A Free phone can't be depending of closed-source data for maps (google
or others) ;) So we must be able to use OSM!
Am 24.06.2008 um 19:07 schrieb arne anka:
Sorry, nobody wants this on a smartphone.
the replies to the op suggest otherwise.
Wisdom of the masses.
if everything zimbra wants is a sufficient number of votes and they
do the
porting themselves -- why not? it broadens the number of
2008/6/25 Francesco Cat [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
What will be the best way to take advantage of Open Street Maps?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Main_Page
A Free phone can't be depending of closed-source data for maps (google
or others) ;) So we must be able to use OSM! (as well as
2008/6/25 Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
well, the short answer is tangogps.org is great - very easy to use,
stable and solid. available pre-compiled for lots of x86 linuxex and
openmoko/freerunner
the long answer is to check out the svn repo on the osm wiki, there
are several great
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| Am Di 24. Juni 2008 schrieb Yorick Moko:
| It is known that the way you charge a battery influences the lifetime.
| Have there been any tests as to which is the best way to charge the
| freerunner?
|
|
As a matter of fact that database would not even be needed, as we *do* have a
GPS to get positions. So, for instance:
- A location is defined somehow, and *beforehand*. Say manually while being
there, perhaps with some precission range attached (high: 1m, low: whatever
error margin the GSM
Hello,
I have a question about the miniSD card in the FreeRunner. If I want
to install a larger card at some point is it any easier to already
have the new card in hand before I even turn on the FR and just
install it when I get the FR? I'm wondering if the card comes blank or
does it have
Steve/Michael,
Sorry to be a bother, but could you update us on the U.S. warranty
situation for the FR? I understand that there is a 14-day DOA warranty.
Is that it? Or will we getting a 1-year or some such?
Please let us know if there will be a difference in warranty between the
10 pack
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I have a question about the miniSD card in the FreeRunner. If I want
to install a larger card at some point is it any easier to already
have the new card in hand before I even turn on the FR and just
install it when I
Will the FR be able to support 16GB SDHC microSD cards?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:55 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd hoped to buy an 8GB SDHC microSD card for my Freerunner but ordered
a non-micro card and got too lazy to return it to newegg.com for an
exchange since the bigger
I'd heard 8GB, which is why I was going to order an 8GB card. I know a
few 4GB cards were tested.
Nicholas Dube wrote:
Will the FR be able to support 16GB SDHC microSD cards?
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 4:55 PM, ian douglas [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd hoped to
I unsubscribed my iandouglas.com address and resubscribed a few minutes
later, and now both my w98.us and iandouglas.com messages show up within
a few minutes of each other instead of a 90+ minute delay.
I guess the mailing list software processes the addresses in typical
first-in-last-out stack
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but I have noticed that
there seem to be issues with ATT SIM cards and the Neo1973.
(http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=666)
Have they been resolved in the FreeRunner?
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Joseph,
My company uses Exchange servers. Is Zimbra a client that would work with
existing Exchange infrastructure or does it replace the Exchange?
Thanks,
V
On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Joseph Reeves [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Wish there was a way to vote on this URL of yours without
ian douglas wrote:
[snip]
Did anyone else test an 8GB card yet? If not, I'll order another one on
the weekend.
[snip]
I bought an 8GB Sandisk MicroSD card. I'm part of a group purchase for
the San Francisco Bay Area and we plan to pick up in Fremont, so as soon
as the Freerunners arrive I will
Am Di 24. Juni 2008 schrieb Jisakiel:
As a matter of fact that database would not even be needed, as we *do* have
a GPS to get positions. So, for instance:
- A location is defined somehow, and *beforehand*. Say manually while being
there, perhaps with some precission range attached (high:
ti, 2008-06-24 kello 17:02 -0400, Nicholas Dube kirjoitti:
Will the FR be able to support 16GB SDHC microSD cards?
If it supports SDHC (and I hear it does) it supports at least up to 32GB
cards. That is an artificial limit in the spec, by the way, so
controllers _may_ be able to be coaxed into
Here's an idea: OpenMoko shows me locations of GSM towers near me by knowing
my location via GPS. This could be useful when in a remote area. Let's say
I'm in a valley, have no GMS signal, and a member of my party or I have an
injury. It would be useful to know in which direction I should travel
That's a great idea. Has it been done before? I know there's a GSM
coverage map on the 'net somewhere (don't have my home bookmarks at
work) which may include actual tower locations already.
-id
Charles Edward Pax wrote:
Here's an idea: OpenMoko shows me locations of GSM towers near me by
2008/6/25 Charles Edward Pax [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Here's an idea: OpenMoko shows me locations of GSM towers near me by knowing
my location via GPS. This could be useful when in a remote area. Let's say
I'm in a valley, have no GMS signal, and a member of my party or I have an
injury. It would be
Wow. Very cool information. Thank you all.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 3:27 PM, Mikko Rauhala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ti, 2008-06-24 kello 17:02 -0400, Nicholas Dube kirjoitti:
Will the FR be able to support 16GB SDHC microSD cards?
If it supports SDHC (and I hear it does) it supports at least
Here's another idea: Record signal strength and position information for
generating a coverage map. We can record tower code, signal strength, and
phone location. This information could be used with the Open Street Map data
to generate a real-world coverage map. This could also be useful
2008/6/24 Doron [Ofek BIZ] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Graeme Gregory wrote:
Well I have seen the future and the future is FSO.
Great work !!
FSO is the future.
sure :)
great demo
- doron
For the first time I have been able to make and receive phone calls on a
gta02 without hassle.
Hi Vinc,
Zimbra is a mail system that, for a long time, did not have a client
at all; it was all web based. Currently you are able to use exchange
clients (mobile phone sync apps for example) with Zimbra because the
Zimbra server emulates an exchange server when these clients connect.
We have
On Tuesday 24 June 2008 14:45, john wrote:
2008/6/24 Jisakiel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
[snip]
- Is it possible then to fetch approximate position from the associated
GSM towers then? I guess it depends on the subset of commands the chip
implements, but I didn't have the time to read over those
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but I have noticed that
there seem to be issues with ATT SIM cards and the Neo1973.
(http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=666)
Have they been resolved in the FreeRunner?
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On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Dadap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry if this question has been asked before, but I have noticed that
there seem to be issues with ATT SIM cards and the Neo1973.
(http://bugzilla.openmoko.org/cgi-bin/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=666)
Have they been resolved
That sounds like yes to me... This would be a very important issue for
me, as I'm definitely going to have to use ATT.
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Vinc Duran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jun 24, 2008 at 11:41 AM, Daniel Dadap [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry if this question has been
Joerg Reisenweber ha scritto:
Am Mi 25. Juni 2008 schrieb Joseph Reeves:
Here's another idea: Record signal strength and position information for
generating a coverage map. We can record tower code, signal strength, and
phone location. This information could be used with the Open Street Map
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:57:28 +1200
Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[...]
Here's another idea: Record signal strength and position information for
generating a coverage map. We can record tower code, signal strength, and
phone location. This information could be used with the Open
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