Re: Selected questions to Sean

2008-12-22 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
Dear Minh Please give me about a week to reply to these questions. I'm going to be traveling a lot starting tonight so things will be very hectic for a while. I appreciate all your work to collect / organize such great topics. -Sean Minh Ha Duong wrote: > Dear Sean, > > I received a g

Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

2008-12-22 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, "W.Kenworthy" wrote: > On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 "Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster" >> babbled: >> >> > Dylan Reilly schrieb: >> > > FWIW, I have been able to reduce the CPU usage of Enlighte

RE: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread KaZeR
_ De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de Ilja O. Envoyé : samedi 20 décembre 2008 16:53 À : List for Openmoko community discussion Objet : om-manager 0.1.0 released Hello. I'm happy to announce that I've finally managed

RE: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread KaZeR
Woopsie. Looks like i sent a blank mail, apologies. I tried it under windows : i had to create the app\log directory, or it would fail. ( IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'D:\\OM\\om-manager_00.01.00.tar\\dist\\om-manager\\app\\log\\program.log' ) Now, it fails probably because of

Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

2008-12-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:07:45 -0500 Joel Newkirk babbled: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, "W.Kenworthy" > wrote: > > On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:13:59 +0100 "Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster" > >> babbled: > >> > >> > Dylan Reilly s

Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

2008-12-22 Thread swap38
swap38 wrote: > > Ed Kapitein a écrit : >> I ran into a similar problem. >> The solution that worked for me was: >> >> dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin >> dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.rootfs.jffs2 >> dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D gta02v5_and_up-u-boot.bin > >

Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

2008-12-22 Thread William Kenworthy
wifi settings? - what do you mean. BillK On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 01:47 -0800, swap38 wrote: > > swap38 wrote: > > > > Ed Kapitein a écrit : > >> I ran into a similar problem. > >> The solution that worked for me was: > >> > >> dfu-util -a kernel -R -D Om2008.12-om-gta02.uImage.bin > >> dfu-util

Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

2008-12-22 Thread Ed Kapitein
Hi Swap38, There is no item in the "settings" panel, but working with iwconfig and wpa_supplicant works fine. Please take a look at http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi and use the manual method of setting up your network. I find it usefull to start in a well known state, so i issue: ifconfig eth0

Re: Selected questions to Sean

2008-12-22 Thread Steve Mosher
Will need some time on this. Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: > Dear Minh > > Please give me about a week to reply to these questions. I'm going to be > traveling a lot starting tonight so things will be very hectic for a while. > > I appreciate all your work to collect / organize such great topics. >

Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

2008-12-22 Thread DJDAS
Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) ha scritto: >>> Billk >>> >> I've seen Enlightenment running between 18% and 30% most of the time >> lately, with SHR. And I just discovered I am able to drop it to 3%-5% and >> bring it back through a single change: I've been tweaking some Oxygen >> icons

Re: 2008.12 and USB network Ubuntu Intrepid

2008-12-22 Thread Bernt
Pander-2 wrote: > > On FR I've installed 2008.12 and on my laptop Ubuntu Interpid with wicd. > I have to use `sudo ifdown usb0` and `sudo ifup usb0` every time I reboot or unplugged the usb cable from my freerunner. It's not so nice, but you can give it a try until there is a solution again

Re: Selected questions to Sean

2008-12-22 Thread Minh Ha Duong
Le lundi 22 décembre 2008, Steve Mosher a écrit : > Will need some time on this. Sure. I was actually planning to publish the interview for year's end. Minh -- Minh HA DUONG, Chargé de Recherche, CNRS CIRED, Centre International de Recherches sur l'Environnement et le Développement http://mi

Re: 2008.12 and USB network Ubuntu Intrepid

2008-12-22 Thread Simon Kagstrom
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:51:35 -0800 (PST) Bernt wrote: > > On FR I've installed 2008.12 and on my laptop Ubuntu Interpid with > > wicd. > > > > I have to use `sudo ifdown usb0` and `sudo ifup usb0` > every time I reboot or unplugged the usb cable from my freerunner. > It's not so nice, but you

Re: New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-22 Thread arne anka
> What is gta02v5-lowlevel.bin made for? only for you to ask -- and me to answer: check the archives, it has been answered often enough. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/commun

Battery arrived On Time and on Perfect Condition (Was: Bad Customer support from Truebox.com about a Broken Battery)

2008-12-22 Thread ankostis
Hi, i'm glad to report that the whole matter resolved well. Hours after i had post my complaints on Dec 10 i received an email from Truebox explaining me that they have the good-will to send me a battery, and later they provided me with the tracking-id of the new package. And exactly on week lat

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread Ilja O.
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:46 AM, KaZeR wrote: > Woopsie. Looks like i sent a blank mail, apologies. > > I tried it under windows : i had to create the app\log directory, or it > would fail. ( IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: > 'D:\\OM\\om-manager_00.01.00.tar\\dist\\om-manager\\app

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-22 Thread Justyn Butler
This is all very interesting (and sad, of course). 2008/12/22 The Rasterman Carsten Haitzler : > less than 1/3 the cost. as best i know anyone selling pre-made "3g modules" so > you dont have to set up your own production is charging in the range of > $100-$300 per module (depending who you go to

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-22 Thread Sargun Dhillon
Does OM even sell that many units? I thought it was more in the 3-5k range as of now. The Telit module would be nice, but is quite expensive. I've also looked at Sierra, but all their modules are MiniPCI based. One of the neat things about going with a Telit module, would be OM could ship with the

Opkg front-end "ZOMG!" updated

2008-12-22 Thread Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster
new version is out. still no features added, but i re-wrote most of the code. now it is faster and doesn't care anymore if you use cacao or jamvm (i recommend jamvm, because it is damn fast and small) further info can be optianed at the wiki: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/ZOMG!#Update_22.2F12.2F

Enlightenment

2008-12-22 Thread Peter Stumm
Hi, i have installed enlightenment with the easy_e17.sh script from http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/#easy_e17.sh , first i can't compile notification and screenshot (i skipped these) then i want to compile a little program i have from the ewl book #include #include v

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:50:33 + "Justyn Butler" babbled: thanks for the good numeric example. as you see - it's pretty much the ballpark i was talking about - and yes - u'd get a discount, but you may find the $200 goes to $100 - at best if u order > 1k most likeley - more likely $120 or so. t

[OM2008.12] show/hide wifi icon

2008-12-22 Thread Giorgio Marciano
How can i show/hide the icon in the bottom bar on OM2008.12 or SHR? i want to control this feature from my python application, is it possible? How does it work? when i connect to an AP the icon magically appear but if i disconnect (killall wpa_supplicant and killall udhcpc) it remains showed in th

No dropbear in om2008.12 ?

2008-12-22 Thread steve
Hi, Two months ago I bought the FR and installed the om2008.8 version without too much worry. This last week-end, after reading this list, I decided to flash the om2008.12 version. So I downloaded the kernel and the rootfs from here http://downloads.openmoko.org/releases/Om2008.12/ and then flas

RE: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread KaZeR
> First of all, there is wxWidgets (http://www.wxwidgets.org/) and wxPython (http://wxpython.org/) wxPython is basically > Python bindings to wxwdgets (since wxWidgets is the C++ Library, it can't be used directly by Python). So, if you have installed wxWidgets (that is C++ library), you shou

Re: No dropbear in om2008.12 ?

2008-12-22 Thread Giorgio Marciano
I'm using OM2008.12 with no problems: networking and SSH works well. I had some problems the first time to install the terminal! Why they don't include terminal by default?! However, connecting the neo to pc through USB cable works for me. I gave the following command: sudo ifconfig usb0 192.16

Re: No dropbear in om2008.12 ?

2008-12-22 Thread Alexey Feldgendler
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:50:37 +0100, steve wrote: > Then I rebooted and pluged in the usb cable and tried to connect, no > success. I can ping 192.168.0.202 but not connect via ssh. I then tried > to nmap the FR and the result was "all ports filtered". > > I finally decided to flash with the om2

Re: No dropbear in om2008.12 ?

2008-12-22 Thread steve
Le 22-12-2008, à 14:05:51 +0100, Alexey Feldgendler (ale...@feldgendler.ru) a écrit : > Lignes : 23 > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:50:37 +0100, steve wrote: > > > Then I rebooted and pluged in the usb cable and tried to connect, no > > success. I can ping 192.168.0.202 but not connect via ssh. I t

Re: SHR applications on Debian

2008-12-22 Thread Nathan Kinkade
2008/12/3 Sascha Wessel : > Hi, > > > On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 11:55:29AM +0100, Jelle De Loecker wrote: >> I switched to the enlightenment version, but now it complains about ETK >> and Elemental, but I have NO idea where I need to get these. I can't >> find any packages in the repo, on any source

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread Ilja O.
> > > Thanks for the clarification. I installed wxPython, but now it complains > about yaml. Would you happen to have a full list of what's needed to use > om-manager? About Yaml, is it this one? http://pyyaml.org/ > > You can find full list at the main page of project ( http://code.google.com/p/om

test prog from the ewl-book

2008-12-22 Thread Peter Stumm
Hi, i have installed enlightenment with the easy_e17.sh script from http://omicron.homeip.net/projects/#easy_e17.sh , first i can't compile notification and screenshot (i skipped these) then i want to compile a little program i have from the ewl book #include #include v

RE: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread KaZeR
> You can find full list at the main page of project ( http://code.google.com/p/om-manager/ ). > With links to download pages of given projects (see 'Links' section at right on the main page of project). > And yes, its http://pyyaml.org/ . Uh, right. Three

[debian] LXDE?

2008-12-22 Thread arne anka
someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and functionality compared to XFCE? is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin work (ie is there a standard systray)?

Re: om-manager 0.1.0 released

2008-12-22 Thread Ilja O.
> > > > > Uh, right. > > Three comments, after 10 seconds of use : > - nice Thanks! [grin] > > - detect user's homedir, instead of defaulting to /Users/ilya/Documents ? Sorry, distro wrapper didn't erase plugin configs before er... creating distribution. (I only use svn checkout, really). I

Re: [debian] LXDE?

2008-12-22 Thread arne anka
> experiences in regard to responsibility whoever might be responsible or not -- i meant responsiveness of course. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Pkg-e-devel] [debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

2008-12-22 Thread Neil Jerram
2008/12/22 Albin Tonnerre : > > There are no e17 packages in unstable (not in the debian archive, I mean) > except eet. Maybe you're getting your packages from a third-party repository > ? > > We put the image loaders and savers in the same package as libevas: > libevas0, so you're likely not missi

Re: [Android] koolu first beta release

2008-12-22 Thread Gothnet
Andreas Wallin wrote: > > I tried it, > Still the keyboard does not work in all "text" dialogs, wifi doesn't work, > > I cant lock screen, and suspend still doesn't work, GSM seems to work. > > I reflashed my openmoko with qt after 1 days use, When suspend,lock > screen and soft keyboard work

Re: Acustic 'empty battery warning' ?

2008-12-22 Thread john dowd
I'm sure someone has mentioned this application before but just in case, have you ever heard of using the accelerometer to check the batter status? The application that I heard about was: when the application is running, you shake the FR just like you shake an opaque water bottle to determine if it

[SHR] how to restore default illume theme

2008-12-22 Thread Giorgio Marciano
How can i restore the default shr-illume theme? i've changed theme with a new one and it doesn't work! thanks -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@

[SHR] how to restore defauld illume theme

2008-12-22 Thread Giorgio Marciano
How can i restore the default shr-illume theme? i've changed theme with a new one and it doesn't work! thanks -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@

[big C rework] Anyone in Chile doing this?

2008-12-22 Thread Tomas Riveros Schober
Hello list, I wonder if anyone in Chile with a freerunner is interested in doing the rework proposed by joerg. I´m cuerrently checking prices and they are making a big discount if they repair 10 or more units. If anyone is interested just email me. Tom PS. I´m going to post this to the spanish m

Re: [Report] - Buzz fix

2008-12-22 Thread drac2000
Jim Morris wrote: > > > Ok, so how/when will OM offer a fix for end users? This fix is way beyond > my skills to do. > > > -- > Jim Morris, http://blog.wolfman.com > > Please OM Team, consider this action I can't wait to make my FR my real daily phone. I am in Montreal/Canada Thx ... --

Re: [SHR] how to restore default illume theme

2008-12-22 Thread Nathan Kinkade
2008/12/22 Giorgio Marciano : > How can i restore the default shr-illume theme? i've changed theme with a > new one and it doesn't work! > > thanks Wrench -> Look -> Theme -> select illume-shr doesn't do anything for you? Nathan ___ Openmoko community

Re: [SHR] how to restore default illume theme

2008-12-22 Thread Giorgio Marciano
I can't access to theme manager, i have to change theme manually using the terminal..how can i do this? - Original Message - From: "Nathan Kinkade" To: "List for Openmoko community discussion" Subject: Re: [SHR] how to restore default illume theme Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:39:59

Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

2008-12-22 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:23:42 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) wrote: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:07:45 -0500 Joel Newkirk > babbled: > >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, "W.Kenworthy" >> wrote: >> > On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 10:04 +1100, Carsten Haitzler wrote: >> >> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:

Re: [SHR] how to restore default illume theme

2008-12-22 Thread Joel Newkirk
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:44:39 +0100, "Giorgio Marciano" wrote: IIRC the setting is stowed in ~/.e/e/config/illume-shr/e.cfg - if you rename that file out of the way and try "killall -HUP enlightenment" you should be back at square one... It's a binary file, so you can't just edit it to change the

Re: [SHR] how to restore default illume theme

2008-12-22 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Monday 22 December 2008 16:39:59 Nathan Kinkade wrote: > 2008/12/22 Giorgio Marciano : > > How can i restore the default shr-illume theme? i've changed theme with a > > new one and it doesn't work! > > > > thanks > > Wrench -> Look -> Theme -> select illume-shr doesn't do anything for you? I've

Re: [Pkg-e-devel] [debian] enlightenment has no png loader?

2008-12-22 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, Am Montag, den 22.12.2008, 14:28 + schrieb Neil Jerram: > 2008/12/22 Albin Tonnerre : > > > > There are no e17 packages in unstable (not in the debian archive, I mean) > > except eet. Maybe you're getting your packages from a third-party repository > > ? > > > > We put the image loaders a

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-22 Thread AVee
On Wednesday 17 December 2008 02:36, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:31:01 -0800 "Sargun Dhillon" +openm...@gmail.com> babbled: > > you might want to read this: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osborne_effect > > this killed an entire company - it ceased to exist. again. regardles

Re: [debian] LXDE?

2008-12-22 Thread Michele Renda
Il 22/12/2008 15:06, arne anka ha scritto: > someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any > experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and > functionality compared to XFCE? > is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin > work

[All] tangogps - python scripts for .kml from/to sqlite

2008-12-22 Thread Thomas des Courières
Hi all, just wanted to share some scripts I used. The first one is for converting a list of points out of a kml file to a poi sqlite3 database which tangogps can read, and the other one is for doing the reverse operation : getting the pois of the tango gps db and creating a kml file. It might need

Re: [Om 2008.12] No ssh / no wifi ?

2008-12-22 Thread swap38
Ed Kapitein (via Nabble) a écrit : > Hi Swap38, > > There is no item in the "settings" panel, but working with iwconfig and > wpa_supplicant works fine. > Please take a look at > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wifi > and use the manual method of setting up your network. That's why I can't find it

Re: qwerty keyboard

2008-12-22 Thread Peter Stumm
is there now any resolution i have the 2008.12 image and enlightenment crashes always. and after that the asu keyboard is there ...shit! Am Mittwoch, den 17.12.2008, 18:51 +0200 schrieb Yogiz: > > One stupid question: is this the first image that is linked? (not by > > alphabetical order, by lin

Re: daily testing images info and some text if you want to read

2008-12-22 Thread julien cubizolles
Le dimanche 14 décembre 2008 à 21:32 +, Samuel Pereira a écrit : > Hello, > > I have calculator, calendar, text editor, file browser, web Browser, > terminal, and a basic piano also :) which calendar are you using ? ___ Openmoko community mailin

Re: qwerty keyboard

2008-12-22 Thread Pander
Yeah the default keyboard is not the Illume one, hope this will be changed soon. And also the Terminal keybaord may be default with Illume keyboard too. I did: #Add/modify "export QTOPIA_NO_VIRTUAL_KEYBOARD=1" in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89qtopia sed -i -e s,asu,illume, /etc/enlightenment/default_profi

Re: 2008.12 and USB network Ubuntu Intrepid

2008-12-22 Thread Pander
What complete set of configuration changes and shell scripts are you using? Please update the Wiki if it is out of date because once I got it running and now (because I'm not a networking/iptables crack) it is not anymore. Thanks. Simon Kagstrom wrote: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 02:51:35 -0800 (PST) >

Re: [OM2008.12] show/hide wifi icon

2008-12-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:47:35 +0100 "Giorgio Marciano" babbled: > How can i show/hide the icon in the bottom bar on OM2008.12 or SHR? i > want to control this feature from my python application, is it possible? > > How does it work? when i connect to an AP the icon magically appear but > if i dis

Re: [OM 2008.12] Enlightenment Drop Shadow Performance

2008-12-22 Thread The Rasterman
On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:54:42 -0500 Joel Newkirk babbled: > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:23:42 +1100, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) > wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 03:07:45 -0500 Joel Newkirk > > babbled: > > > >> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:52:09 +0900, "W.Kenworthy" > >> wrote: > >> > On Mon, 2008-

Re: [debian] LXDE?

2008-12-22 Thread jos
Hello, I also want to try LXDE but I don't no how to start it up. Can you help me please? (I have been reading the wiki, but I don' t get it :-( ) Thanks Jos. Op maandag 22-12-2008 om 19:04 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Michele Renda: > Il 22/12/2008 15:06, arne anka ha scritto: > > someone re

Re: qwerty keyboard

2008-12-22 Thread W.Kenworthy
Crashes are a VERY well known problem with LOTS of emails on the list. switch to the software engine, or remove the dropshadow module. BillK On Mon, 2008-12-22 at 22:50 +0100, Pander wrote: > Yeah the default keyboard is not the Illume one, hope this will be > changed soon. And also the Termina

Re: Stage of GTA03 development?

2008-12-22 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 12/23/08 AVee wrote: > Regardless, there may well be a Reverse Osborne Effect as well, I > bought a > Freerunner, but right now I probably wouldn't buy one again, but wait > for the > GTA03. If there was a definitive statement telling me that would take > at > least an other year to get d

mokomakefile

2008-12-22 Thread William Kenworthy
Trying to build testing (2008.x) with mokomakefile but it crashes out with an error making me think its not. Just to confirm that I am building what I think I am: OE Build Configuration: BB_VERSION= "1.8.11" METADATA_BRANCH = "org.openmoko.dev " METADATA_REVISION = "bad4ab8693c8309c48f2

Re: [debian] LXDE?

2008-12-22 Thread Michele Renda
Il 23/12/2008 00:30, jos ha scritto: > I also want to try LXDE but I don't no how to start it up. > Can you help me please? > It is simple. First of all you must to have Debian installed. Than you have to install lxde with the command: apt-get install lxde This command will install a metapac