cent Motorolas
which used USB. That means every set of headphones I've EVER used were
3.5 mm (actually, they're labeled as 1/8 inch) and that's what my
Element has as it's AUX input, so I'll stick with that. :)
-Kevin
On Fri, May 30, 2008 at 6:18 AM, pHilipp Zabel <[EM
Yeah, there are GTA01 images for the ASU, I've tested them.
Not too much to report, ASU is almost totally non-functional but it
gives a good view of it's potential.
I planned on doing video over this weekend but I got sick for the
first time in almost three years. *growls*
On Tue, May 27, 2008 a
There's no "American tax". I was chatting with a friend from Croatia
who was confused by how American sales tax works because apparently
it's more common elsewhere (or particularly in Europe) to roll the
sales tax (VAT?) into the advertised price of the good. In America,
each state has it's own sal
On Sun, May 25, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Ron K. Jeffries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am NOT asking if mass production has started.
>
> I am asking if OpenMoko has frozen a release to
> load into the microSD cards. It seems to me that the unit can come off
> the line, and that one of the final steps befo
Qt has been adapted for X11. This is why GTK apps will still be supported.
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Bin Chen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> As ASU switched to Qt, to ensure the coexistence of GTK+ and QT, the
> backend should be chosen to X11. As I know, QTE only support
> framebuff
o of production device?
>
>> >>> Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
>> >>> http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
>> >>> Dean on May 19th. Is that video of shipping software or just a con
ck.
>
>
>
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Dean
> Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:10 AM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: My blog, Freerunner FIrst Impressions and some pics
>
> O
On Sat, May 24, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Marcel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Am Samstag 24 Mai 2008 14:47:03 schrieb rakshat hooja:
>> I am not to sure how many people have seen the Neo software stack diagram
>> on the wiki but after looking at it there really should not be a GTK Vs
>> Qtopia argument an
Wurp wrote an applet that adds a LOT of functionality to the 1973.
Install the applet on you phone and then force it to fast charge when
connected to a charger and you're golden. Charge on the go, using a
wall charger or a car charger. :)
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/CheckFastCharge-script
On Fr
My VPS provider was upgrading the hardware and decided to upgrade my
plan because of the interruption. I thank you for the offer, but I
don't think it'll be needed, it seems stuff is loading again now. :)
-Kevin
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 6:13 PM, Kosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:08 AM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Vinc Duran wrote:
>>
>> Is there video of the production FreeRunner in use? I found
>> http://illume.projects.openmoko.org/illume-vv-01.avi posted by Kevin
>>
Hrm... I've been having issues off and on too.
I'll tranfer the site to a new server when I get to work, hopefully
that will help.
-Kevin
On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 8:14 AM, "Marco Trevisan (Treviño)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kevin Dean wrote:
>>
>> Any
;
> Well, I have a lot of questions, but I think I'll
> better let those who know how to ask make them.
You're doing well enough. :) Any questions you have might help me
decide what ends up in the reviews I write, so I'd appreciate the
input. :)
>
> Thanks again
>
ves a few tidbits of opinion on some of the changes that
seem to get overlooked.
Anyway, the writeup can be read at:
http://monochromementality.com/index.php/blog/show/Day-One-Openmoko-Freerunner.html
-Kevin Dean
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ASU is literally the "April Software Update". Three letter acronyms
give it more geek cred. :)
On Tue, May 20, 2008 at 2:44 PM, Richard Reichenbacher
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What does ASU stand for anyways? It makes me nervous knowing that the
> phones software shares the same initials with
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 4:34 PM, Fredrik Wendt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Travis Tabbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:49 AM, Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
>>
>> Those apps are the heart of the phone, and I would not want to have
>> C++/QT versions running on my phone.
>>
>>
On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Ian Darwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have been using a FreeRunner for a few days with a pre-pre-alpha
> snapshot of the ASU software.
I've done Daily Snapshot Reviews since January. I enjoy bug hunting
and communication. Where can I get this image? Does it ru
Could it be possible to make tones with "Make your own Mein Fraulein
station" kit to use for encryption?
http://www.homelandstupidity.us/2006/08/05/phone-numbers-stations-mystery-revealed-at-defcon/
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Ian Stirling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Crane, Matthew wrote:
>>
>From the Middleware blogposts it's pretty clear that GTK is part of
the platform but that doesn't mean that official apps will be written
in GTK. Was the questioned aimed internally (re: openmoko-* apps) or
more broadly (i.e. to clarify to would-be devs that GTK is no longer
the base)?
On Thu, Ma
It's also worth noting that the 32GB limit is also artificial. 2048GB
is the technical limit for SDHC, if I recall correctly.
On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Stefan Misch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Crane, Matthew wrote:
>>
>> The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhc to 32gb, the
Iceweasel 3 shows the sidebar moved to the bottom.
On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 7:36 AM, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 1:20 PM, MartinG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On 5/5/08, Tomas Gustavsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I'm running Firefox 3 Beta 5
ipping
"locally" (i.e. about 50 miles) is about $8.50 so shipping from Austin
to Dallas isn't MUCH cheaper than shipping Austin to Duluth. Certainly
doing that would save you money over not buying a 10-pack.
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-May/016671.html
-Kevin
:)
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:02 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's quite useful, thanks!
>
>
>
> On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:57 PM, Tomas Di Domenico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think this is what you're looking for:
&
37 PM, Geoff Ruscoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Its on community for April ... Not sure I remember which thread.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:32 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Thu, M
On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 5:27 PM, Steven Kurylo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you search the archives, Steve already gave us the specs so you
> could do this.
Can you drop any more hints on where specifically to find this? I'm
subscribed to all of the Openmoko lists except kernel-dev and even
c
I notice that certain groups in the USA are consolidating for 10-pack
purchases. Unfortunately, some of the regions being covered are bigger
than some entire nations in Europe. While I can't be sure this is the
case, I can't help but think that joining in a regional 10-pack ONLY
works if it costs L
t;
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Dean
>
> Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 1:07 PM
> To: List for Openmoko community discussion
> Subject: Re: Freerunner AC adaptor.. Kevin dean you there?
>
>
>
I figured that the person who started a KY/IN group would be from
Louisville or New Albany and not from Indy, Fort Wayne or Lexington.
Keep in mind when forming the groups that if it still needs to be
shipped (as opposed to physically delivered) there isn't much savings.
You're saving $30 by buyin
I've not had ANYONE comment "it's ugly" but just about everyone I've
handed it to said "It's HUGE".
I personally LOVE it, I'm huge too. :)
On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Lowell Higley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It was the GTA01.. the first pics I saw of the GTA02 was last week. I
> showed b
So... Here's the magical question. How would an "average user" like
myself find that out without buying equipment to test it if the
manufacturer didn't include actualy numbers (or in my case, if the
manufacturer specifies a range of possibilities)?
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:59 PM, ian douglas <[EM
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 3:47 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> my razr charger draws 850.
>
> I haven't check my igo charger, Kevin is the IGO usb 100ma or 500ma?
This may be a trick question... I don't have an AC iGo, I have a DC
iGO car charger.
http://info.ig
that this can be done but making that action a
REQUIREMENT for consistant applications is directly opposite the ideas
of a mass market device.
>
> The one thing I've written[1] was specifically designed to be
> "finger-friendly" as I don't intend to carry a stylus around
On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 12:30 PM, Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One of the objectives of openmoko is to no need to use the stylus
> at all ... When devels talk about "mokofy" (port to openmoko) some
> aplication one of the chalenges is to use it with out stylus.
Either this is NOT
On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 5:33 PM, Travis Tabbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the info. T-Mobile seems to have good coverage here. It sounds
> like the Total Internet plan is the way to go. I'm looking forward to the
> release of Freerunner. I love being able to add/change software on my
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 5:35 PM, Georg Michelitsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Concerning the soundset (if I understood right you meant something like a
> standard sound for the phone-startup as a lot of other companies pratice) I
> think a human voice saying "Openmoko - Open mobile communicatio
For the record, my "tip a programmer" thing was almost pure sarcasm. I
find this discussion to be amusing by the level of absurdity in it.
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:57 AM, ramsesoriginal
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ok, so first, i also would like to see 400$ instead of 399$, because
> it's sim
On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Fredrik Markström
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Still no official comments on this issue ?
>
> Until this is resolved I advice newcomers to be careful before
> spending $399 on another piece of potentially
> useless hardware (GTA02).
If you think your GTA01 is u
I'm happy paying $399 for all ye who feel the need to pay $400 to make
it even. :P Though, I'll hop on the even bandwagon if it's dropped as
long as Openmoko makes profit. :)
If you really want to pay more, you could set up a "Tip a Developer" program...
-Kevin
On Sun
On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 11:46 AM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/4/19, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Feature phones only differ between talk time and standby time.
> > For us, it's a bit more complicated, since we have more modes.
> >
> > Can we agree on the foll
ng a v5
unit and waiting for a v6. Choosing to wait yourself, without passing
the delay and costs onto everyone else is the most ethical, polite way
to solve the problem.
-Kevin
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Steven Le Roux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I totally agree with you.
>
>
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Bastian Muck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> To this i have a little question. I didn't find the ESC-key (which is
> essentially in vi(m)) and i also didn't find the CTRL-key. Whithout this a
> simple tail can make
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Flyin_bbb8 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanx kevin, that's no good, when does it start warning about low battery?,
> or does it even do that?
It doesn't. This is perhaps my single BIGGEST complaint. I don't
really mind that the battery
e? or does the
> current
> > > qemu download give an impression (its so slow its not really useful)
> >
> > Adding to what Kevin said I can say that GPS work very well too. I hae
> > been playing a bit with the software stack and being a great fan of
> > opens
I do reviews using the GTA01 and will begin doing reviews on the GTA02
as soon as I have it.
Currently, I use the Neo1973 (GTA01) as my primary phone. Call quality
is decent. There are some stability issues that come and go as the
code is tweaked and such. Just about everything in a default image
The table colors have too little contrast, I think. It's readable,
but I have to "force" myself to do so.
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 8:32 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just a vote: I like the old one more.
>
> Am 17.04.2008 um 12:58 schrieb Ivo Anjo:
>
>
>
> > Hi.
> >
>
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 8:11 PM, Lon Lentz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> For quite a while now I've been reading comments from people saying
> that this issue or that issue is a "deal breaker". I've been reading
> hardware requests and demands that stretch the gambit from quaint and
> interestin
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 4:52 PM, Ben Burdette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steven ** wrote:
>
> > I don't see how GSM is much less "closed" of a network protocol than
> > CDMA (the interchangeable SIM cards being the big difference). The
> > GSM chip is the most locked down hardware on the Neo. A
is
that standard. It is possible that by the time Verizon's GSM network
is up (2009, from what I heard) the Freerunner will be "mass market".
In that case, the only network that it won't work on is Sprint's. You
can debate over who is exactly at fault in that situation
Speaking realistically, it's impossible for Openmoko to reveal that
information and no have it hurt sales, for EXACTLY the reason you
mentioned. As a support (and Neo1973 owner) I debated with this
myself. Why pay for a phone today when I KNOW the "newer" model is
around the corner?
At the same ti
GSM is essentially an international standard. With some exceptions,
CDMA isn't used much.
Furthermore, even in the USA, Verizon will be deploying a GSM network
"soon" (next few years). So a Freerunner WILL work on Verizon in the
near future.
Don't count on a CDMA device, using a relatively "close
Ihre Ausweis!
On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:57 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> My samples arrived!
>
> I'm in customs hell. They want me to prove I am an american. So I have to
> send them a copy of
> My social security card or my taxes.
>
>
>
>
The figure in USD is as innacurate as anything else. You're not
actually paying $399 USD, you're paying the number of New Taiwan
Dollars that can be exchanged for $399 USD.
Rebasing the price in ANY currency means absolutely nothing since
(assuming you aren't paying exchange premiums) it's the sam
Nano is available in the repositories included with recent images.
To install it, one simply needs to do "opkg install nano
-force-overwrite" on an internet connected Neo. I'm assuming that QEMU
would do the same.
-Kevin
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Brandon Kruger <[EMAIL
The RapRep doesn't have the precision needed to build a Neo case, and
last I checked, didn't have varied enough base materials to make a
study, opaque, and APPEALING case. Put simply "multi-colored cases"
are purely a looks thing.
The CAD files are out there and someone who wanted to sell after
ma
t; fulfilled through the wiki. I'm sure there is already list of compatible
> hardware / devices that work with the NEO. I suggest you add your iGo
> charger to that list.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm i
I'm in the same position as Bobby. I use my Neo as my primary phone as
well as my digital media player. I haven't touched the lanyard or the
pouch since I took them out of the box.
But I also don't use my stylus. My stylus was neat in the beginning,
because I could use it to play with my cats, but
ars are other ears: small, big... and because of
the standard port every headset should work. I also thought that the
openmoko (GTA01) headset has no mic. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Kevin
Am Montag, den 14.04.2008, 02:35 +0200 schrieb "Marco Trevisan
(Treviño)":
> steve ha scritto
gine that your bank would
be charged the amount of Euros needed to convert to $399 worth of
taiwan dollars, if that makes sense.
-Kevin
> I hope that no 1:1 change will be applied...
>
> thanks a lot for the news!!
>
> Andrea
>
> 2008/4/11, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
Excellent, thanks for the update!
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or
> production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the first PVT
> run. Michael Shiloh will be bac
Hi,
You really should host your pictures on your own server and not include
it out of a forum.
(e.g. picture
http://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=5358 is used
in http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Letux%20380 )
So users have to register in that forum to see the pic
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 12:15 PM, Steven **
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a US resident, 3G is pretty useless to me. Mostly because it costs
> AT LEAST an additional $30 a month to utilize it. I'm also not sure
> it's available in my area.
I'm also a US resident and the unlimited plan on my c
I'd happily trade wifi for 3G. Well, that is... Until Openmoko begins
offering a wifi service for under $20 a month that allows me to do
streaming internet radio in my car. :) Wifi is worthless with 110 mile
daily commute.
On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 11:11 AM, Andy Powell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> O
On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Sean Anderson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think many people are anxious to know when the Neo FreeRunner will
> actually be released. I know of many people that are quite eager to buy
> one; if it won't be ready till December, say so. Stop keeping hundreds
> of
rt to your insurance agency can go a long way with mitigating
the loss if you ever loose your Neo.
-Kevin
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 9:12 PM, Sean Anderson
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think the original idea was a sensible one, but I doubt many would be
> willing to risk losing all their d
On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 8:18 PM, joerg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Alas there is *absolutely* *NO* way for NEO though to tell when your
> braindead
> 850mA charger will start to slowly melt down overnight when you set 1A charge
> mode via applet. It's very unlikely there will ever be any trou
application, the iGo
works just fine as a charger.
-Kevin
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ot; accessories
and battery life are directly tied IMO. As long as the battery life
suck on the Neo/Freerunner people will need chargers for the device,
and as long as a working fast-charge charger doesn't exist, it will be
construed as bad planning.
-Kevin Dean
On Tue, Mar 25, 2008
Congrats Harald!
On Fri, Mar 21, 2008 at 11:57 AM, Joe Pfeiffer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well deserved by both recipients!
>
>
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What I'm missing at the trisoft site is the headset, mentioned at
[1]->Headset.
Won't the Freerunner-Package include this nice looking headset?
Kevin
[1] http://openmoko.com/products-neo-base-00-stdkit.html
Am Donnerstag, den 20.03.2008, 11:47 +0100 schrieb [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
&
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> both US and EU must offer some sort of warranty.
I don't believe this is true. IIRC the EU requires sellers or
manufacturers to warranty items (or perhaps specific items) but
there's no such requirement in the USA (thou
ocket with my keys and loose coin when I walk about. The screen
doesn't seem to scratch (thought it does smudge). In all, I think the
device is well built and can be used in environments any typical cell
phone would be used for.
It's a well-build geek toy, that CAN be a long life cell ph
this are as important (imho) as those debating how much
> RAM the device has or what cell frequencies should be enabled. ]
>
> I abbreviate here for brevity, not to ignore any points you've mentioned.
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 10:25 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]&
Excellent update. :) Thanks!
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:33 AM, James Olney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the update Michael! Good news! looks like you've turned a corner!
>
>
>
>
> On 19/03/2008, Daniel Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thank you very much for these good news! Really
On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 8:38 PM, Michael Shiloh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Lally,
>
> This is clearly my responsibility, and in fact there is such a page:
>
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates
>
> I confess I have been lax in the past few months and have not updated
> since J
I've contributed to but I like to
think that I DO contribute to projects by being passionate and being
persistant.
Every person told RTFM is a person being told to be responsible for
themselves. Where you see it inspiring a developer to avoid I project,
I see it inspiring a hacker to start ha
x27;re building hype. And while I am reluctant
to phrase it this way, I'm not one to "be nice" for the sake of it -
the message of freedom has sold SKUs and most of the "feature"
complaints are coming from people who haven't put any money behind
their rants. Whom do you T
Hi,
I agree with you, that you need some sort of "pushing" to get noticed a
possible buyer about your offer because if I were a buyer, I won't check
every day the wiki for new things..
I also think posting the link to the mailing list is not a very good
solution, because I could imagine that most
Hi Wolfgang and Michael,
thank you for clarify that, but it raises a new question for me:
Does that mean that there is written "Neo FreeRunner" in GTA02 at the
place where "Neo 1973" is written in GTA01? (e.g. in [1])
Thanks,
Kevin
[1] http://openmoko.com/uploaded_imag
ot for this information. That town (Leimen) is only
about 9 kilometers away from me :)... And I didn't noticed somthing
about it, really curios that an international mailinglist is necessary
for this...
Kevin
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Hi Michael,
yes you are right, but that are not only the "o". Every Letter has it
own "direction" because of the perspective, so it's correct in that way.
Just have a look on your mobile phone (or any other thing) on your desk,
put it right to you, you will see the left side of the thing. Now put
Mark schrieb:
As someone who has been waiting on pins and needles for months for
this phone, I too am wondering why there has not been an announcement
of some kind, since up to now they've been saying "October" and we're
3/4 of the way through the month. If it's going to be January or
later, that
KeKeSeB schrieb:
> Kevin Zuber a écrit :
>> Dear community,
>>
>>
>> because that is my first posting here, I would like to introduce myself.
>> I'm Kevin (you can also say Kev as nick), a german student in a grammar
>> school for information technology.
Dear community,
because that is my first posting here, I would like to introduce myself.
I'm Kevin (you can also say Kev as nick), a german student in a grammar
school for information technology. I prefer to use open source software
and so I am very interesing in the openmoko project. I
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