[Om2009] currently broken?

2009-09-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Hi folks, I have broken my distrib this morning while doing opkg upgrade. Firstly Paroli does not work because of missing libs, so I made some (lots of) symlinks like libelementary.so.0 -- libelementary-pre-svn-ver-.so.0 I have no problem with renaming lib but then please update paroli

Re: [Om2009] currently broken?

2009-09-24 Thread Andreas Fischer
Hi Xavier, Though this is probably not what you want to hear, I'd strongly suggest to install SHR or another distro of your choice. OM2009 is (to the best of my knowledge) at this point of time unmaintained and more or less discontinued. Refer to emails sent earlier about this subject

Re: [Om2009] currently broken?

2009-09-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
to install SHR or another distro of your choice. OM2009 is (to the best of my knowledge) at this point of time unmaintained and more or less discontinued. Refer to emails sent earlier about this subject. Regards, Andreas Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Hi folks, I have broken my distrib

Re: [Om2009] currently broken?

2009-09-24 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Xavier Cremaschi a écrit : Secondly, I can now launch Paroli but I have dbus timeout, so no GSM at all. I can see some warnings in frameworkd.log but no error. What can I do to get my phone capacity back ? Problem was : this frameworkd requires fso-abyss, which was not installed (nor in

Re: Om2009 Maintainer

2009-09-06 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/6/09, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: now if you want to disable the shr phone apps without removing them comment all of the lines out in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89notifier and

Re: Om2009 Maintainer

2009-09-05 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:09 PM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: now if you want to disable the shr phone apps without removing them comment all of the lines out in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/89notifier and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80ophonekitd If you comment out 80ophonekitd, there will be no

Re: Om2009

2009-08-31 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hey, just wanted to add another 2-cents to the bucket, which by now should contain a lot of small change ... Reading some of the mails in this thread I think we need to get the definitions straight: - fso - phoning middleware - shr - a distro which comes with fso preinstalled - om2009

Re: Om2009

2009-08-29 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Freitag, den 28.08.2009, 21:09 +0200 schrieb Sebastian Krzyszkowiak: Oh guys... I'm SHR developer (once I tried Om2009), but... regarding stablity, SHR and FSO is mainly the same! We both use FSO and we both are affected by FSO bugs. And most of bugs regarding phone functionality came from

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Tom Yates
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009, Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Angus Ainslie a écrit : Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Petr Vanek
but identifying which -U images are fully-functional and which are boxes of part-broken bits seems a bit of a black art. any of you SHR chaps car e to tell us OM2009 stick-in-the-muds how the knowledge of which releases are functional and which are less so is transmitted? any chance of you

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Bernhard Reiter
Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 11:21 -0400 schrieb Warren Baird: I must admit that I switched from OM2009 to SHR-U about a month ago now, since it looked like nothing was happening. I must admit that aside from Paroli (which apparently is coming soon to SHR-U - or already there), it wasn't

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bernhard Reiterock...@raz.or.at wrote: OM2009 users: are you successfully using your Freerunners as phones (also picking up calls)? Or just for non-phone purposes? Yes, om2009 unstable. (but I still vote for going to SHR :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto

Re: Om2009

2009-08-28 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/28/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 9:47 PM, Bernhard Reiterock...@raz.or.at wrote: OM2009 users: are you successfully using your Freerunners as phones (also picking up calls)? Or just for non-phone purposes? Yes, om2009 unstable. (but I still vote

Om2009 Maintainer

2009-08-28 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi All, After some deliberation and input from the community I am going to stop maintaining Om2009. I'm going work on getting paroli to co-exsist in SHR. If you want to try and run paroli in SHR unstable RFN. Flash the latest shr- unstable image. http://shr.bearstech.com/shr-unstable/images

Re: Om2009 Maintainer

2009-08-28 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 10:09 PM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: Hi All, After some deliberation and input from the community I am going to stop maintaining Om2009.  I'm going work on getting paroli to co-exsist in SHR. If you want to try and run paroli in SHR unstable RFN. Flash

Re: Om2009 Maintainer

2009-08-28 Thread Wolfgang Spraul
Angus, thanks a lot for your fantastic work on Om2009. It didn't go where we wanted it to go, but still covered a lot of ground. I guess I will switch to SHR too then (good instructions!) :-) Keep in touch, Wolfgang On Fri, Aug 28, 2009 at 01:09:49PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, After

Re: OM2009

2009-08-27 Thread Ken Young
Angus Ainslie Wrote: Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a worthy venture or should I move over to SHR and see

Re: [om2009] (I) messed up alsa

2009-08-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-26, śro o godzinie 19:21 +0300, Risto H. Kurppa pisze: You can try this: http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state (copy to .. hmm.. let me try.. /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios ) I'll try those also if you do not mind. I am still looking for good scenarios. I still

Re: OM2009

2009-08-27 Thread Marcel
Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 02:53 -0400 schrieb Ken Young: Angus Ainslie Wrote: Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Angus, a lot of respect goes to you for asking the opinion of the community and listening to our needs! To me it looks like moving over to SHR makes sense: focusing all available resources and skills on one distro instead of trying to keep OM2009 alive with waayy too little resources. I believe

Blog post about project management (was: Re: Om2009)

2009-08-27 Thread Marcel
Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 11:01 +0300 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: Did I already post this for everyone to read: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/building-community-around-your-foss.html - anyway, read it again, it's a great post. Wow, read it only halfways through but it already seems

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Markus T�rnqvist
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:39:06PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: Hi All, Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
I use OM2009T5, with OWrt state files and few SHR libraries. Why OM2009? Simply because it is much more stable than SHR-U. Now someone will start yelling ...but it is called unstable Fine, but SHR means STABLE hybrid release in first place. So i ask, where is this stability? I hate

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:52:13AM +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote: I use OM2009T5, with OWrt state files and few SHR libraries. Why OM2009? Simply because it is much more stable than SHR-U. Now someone will start yelling ...but it is called unstable Fine, but SHR means STABLE hybrid release

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Marcel
Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 10:58 +0100 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:52:13AM +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote: I use OM2009T5, with OWrt state files and few SHR libraries. Why OM2009? Simply because it is much more stable than SHR-U. Now someone will start

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread rakshat hooja
SHR-U from 2009/08/08 is more stable than Om2009t5 on my FreeRunner. I used to have to reboot about once per day, but now days pass without a reboot quite easily! Rui _ Some days SHR-U is very stable and sometimes it is not as all the latest bleeding stuff comes in. Some of us can fix

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 03:57:18PM +0530, rakshat hooja wrote: SHR-U from 2009/08/08 is more stable than Om2009t5 on my FreeRunner. I used to have to reboot about once per day, but now days pass without a reboot quite easily! Rui Some days SHR-U is very stable and sometimes it is not

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread rakshat hooja
Some of us can fix the SHR-U latest by downgrading+upgrading+force overwriting some stuff etc but for a newcommer to SHR testing build that has atleast gsm+gps working on 2nd boot is required so that he/she atleast gets a chance to experience SHR instead of thinking its a

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 04:05:52PM +0200, Marcel wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 27.08.2009, 10:58 +0100 schrieb Rui Miguel Silva Seabra: On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 11:52:13AM +0200, Patryk Benderz wrote: I use OM2009T5, with OWrt state files and few SHR libraries. Why OM2009? Simply because

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Davide Scaini
I think the post was about something different, so please guys, be smart as you sure are. Dear Angus, I think that previous posts are indeed encouraging! And, as you can see, paroli is well apppreciated. AFAICU shr is the best choice for our future, and indeed having a working phone app (actually

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Marcel
, with OWrt state files and few SHR libraries. Why OM2009? Simply because it is much more stable than SHR-U. Now someone will start yelling ...but it is called unstable Fine, but SHR means STABLE hybrid release in first place. So i ask, where is this stability? I hate

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Matthias Huber
rakshat hooja schrieb: SHR-U from 2009/08/08 is more stable than Om2009t5 on my FreeRunner. I used to have to reboot about once per day, but now days pass without a reboot quite easily! Rui _ Some days SHR-U is very stable and sometimes it is not as all

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Please people, stick to the subject! -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Angus Ainslie a écrit : Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a worthy venture or should I move over to SHR

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Xavier Cremaschiomega.xav...@gmail.com wrote: - usable (hi Paroli !) Availabe now/soon for SHR too - stable while upgrading : I was used to break lots of things while upgrading my SHR-U, it's far better with Om2009 Sorry to tell you but this is because

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Vibhav Sharma
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Angus Ainslie a crit : Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. >From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a wor

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] Sorry to tell you but this is because there have been no changes in OM2009 - nothing that could break anything. That is the virtue os stable release. -- Kind Regards, Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e

Re: OM2009

2009-08-27 Thread Angus Ainslie
On August 27, 2009 12:53:44 am Ken Young wrote: This should not be interpreted as paroli being abandoned as paroli is in the SHR feeds. I haven't tested it, but getting it to work would be one of my first tasks if it doesn't. paroli has a LOT of fans, and your work on it is greatly

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Sorry to tell you but this is because there have been no changes in OM2009 - nothing that could break anything. SHR instead is developed all the time - changes when upgrading - things might eventually break.. True, but as my gsm, my gps, etc... are ok, no could break

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/8/27 Xavier Cremaschi omega.xav...@gmail.com Risto H. Kurppa a écrit : Sorry to tell you but this is because there have been no changes in OM2009 - nothing that could break anything. SHR instead is developed all the time - changes when upgrading - things might eventually break

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Warren Baird
I must admit that I switched from OM2009 to SHR-U about a month ago now, since it looked like nothing was happening. I must admit that aside from Paroli (which apparently is coming soon to SHR-U - or already there), it wasn't obvious to me what the difference in goals were - the two environments

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Simply because it is stable, and stays stable. And all we would get is simply one distro less, and no adding value anywhere. Oh, and dont forget some really nice features of om2009. One of them is the bind-home

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Michal Brzozowski a écrit : Then just flush one of the SHR-u images that people report as stable and don't upgrade... That's what I do. I like small fixes, and I don't like huge breaking changes, nor this idea of a unstable, which is stable, which is not so stable please wait before

SHR Testing and Stable (was: Om2009)

2009-08-27 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
-testing and -stable releases are possible, it's just a matter manpower. Right now, most of the people working on SHR are also developers, who -- by nature of the development process -- need to work on the unstable distro while they're developing their apps. I don't think anyone in the SHR

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
and Om2008 did not use FSO, so SHR was a community project made to put FSO into them. But the idea behind Om2009 is basically Om2008+FSO AFAIK, so yes they should be very similar. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/27/09, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: However your message generated lot of response, but the main shr developers didnt speak up. That idea (abbandoning om2009 in favor of shr-testing and -stable) came from PaulFertser, DocScrutinizer and few core SHR developers, so I

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Jan Vlug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Angus, First I want to thank you for your work on Om2009. This is what I like about Om2009: * Paroli * Focus on stability / a working phone * bind_home directory I played around with SHR as well, and I think that the items mentioned above

Re: Om2009

2009-08-27 Thread Leonti Bielski
OM2009 distribution. On the other hand if I would have OM2009 it will take much more effort to install SHR functionality to it. Just my 2 cents. Leonti On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 2:07 PM, Jan Vlugjan.pub...@famvlug.nl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Angus, First I want

[om2009] (I) messed up alsa

2009-08-26 Thread pike
Hi I opened up alsamixer and fiddled with most of the 96 sliders. And now, my phone makes a horrible sound (apparently) on the other end of a phone conversation. The sound has been described as BRRiKKKiRRRiRRiZZiZZZSCH I *guess* I messed up the alsa-state files permanently. What's the easiest

Re: [om2009] (I) messed up alsa

2009-08-26 Thread Angus Ainslie
On August 26, 2009 09:13:11 am pike wrote: I *guess* I messed up the alsa-state files permanently. What's the easiest way to revert them back to their original settings ? I was thinking to opkg-remove, opkg-install something ? opkg install -force-reinstall openmoko-alsa-scenarios Angus

Re: [om2009] (I) messed up alsa

2009-08-26 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] The sound has been described as BRRiKKKiRRRiRRiZZiZZZSCH Congratulations! You have just found undocumented function of FreeRunner - it translates your voice to BrikiriZsh language ;) I *guess* I messed up the alsa-state files permanently. What's the easiest way to revert them back to

Re: [om2009] (I) messed up alsa

2009-08-26 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
You can try this: http://kurppa.fi/freerunner/config_files/gsmhandset.state (copy to .. hmm.. let me try.. /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios ) Or do the opkg magic mentioned above r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi

Om2009

2009-08-26 Thread Angus Ainslie
Hi All, I've been encouraged by a couple of persistent community members to post an update to Om2009. First ( other than taking some time off for the summer ) I'll tell you what I've been working on. I've been working on getting the 2.6.30 kernel with openwrt patches running. After a dismal

Re: Om2009

2009-08-26 Thread Dan Staley
phone environment for me. But I'm probably biased as I use SHR-U as my daily phone. ;) Thanks for all the work on paroli and om2009 though Angus! As I mentioned above, I really like paroli, and appreciate all the hard work you have put in thus far and hope that you continue! Paroli as a quick

Re: Om2009

2009-08-26 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:39:06PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a worthy venture or should I move over to SHR and see what help I can be there. (...) This question also has a caveat. Before the end of the month I

Re: Om2009

2009-08-26 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
2009/8/27 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org: On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 04:39:06PM -0600, Angus Ainslie wrote: 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a worthy venture or should I move over to SHR and see what help I can be there. (...) This question also has

Re: Om2009

2009-08-26 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: [...] Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009

Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-08-24 Thread Tim Abell
for reference, attached is some output from hcidump lsmod on my laptop, where I am able to connect and use the keyboard successfully. Tim laptop.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: [Om2009] bluetooth keyboard - key presses not making it to X

2009-08-24 Thread Dan Staley
My bluetooth keyboard also works very well on my freerunner. (I have an iGo Stowaway keyboardwhich i would highly recommend...its very nice!) -Dan Staley On Mon, Aug 24, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk wrote: for reference, attached is some output from hcidump lsmod on my

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I reflashed om2009 (latest unstable) only to see that paroli can't always login to network (well actually now that I mention it, I was able to see it also on the previous isntallatin - paroli often gave me the about 10 error messages..) here are last lines from /var/log/paroli.log http

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-08 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
restarting a couple of times lets me use paroli, gps and everything with no problems! I actually was able to run 4 apps at the same time using gps, not bad! And Paroli connects to gsm networks nicely. Thanks! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-07 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
comments inline On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Onenonen...@free.fr wrote: I changed the subject, in order to try bringing attention to your timeouts issues... good   If paroli doesn't run, it wont start at all. This might be because my application does not request the GSM ressource.

Re: Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-07 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 8/7/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: This might be because my application does not request the GSM ressource. Thus, if GSM is not up and running, requested by another application, I am not sure of how nice it handles it. Thats what I thought. Requesting the GSM resource might be

(om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing

2009-08-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Hi! I'm travelling with om2009 unstable from about 2 weeks ago. I'm having hard time running openbmap and recording cells, most of the times it crashes when I try to start it. If paroli doesn't run, it wont start at all. I have some problems with GPS, I feel that Tangogps or openbmap alone can't

Help with FSO calls timeouts (was: (om2009) OpenBmap client keeps crashing)

2009-08-06 Thread Onen
I changed the subject, in order to try bringing attention to your timeouts issues... Hi Risto, let's see how I can help you! Risto H. Kurppa wrote: If paroli doesn't run, it wont start at all. This might be because my application does not request the GSM ressource. Thus, if GSM is not up

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-03 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:52 AM, Guillaume Chereaucharlie...@gmail.com wrote: Beside, even though I stopped working on paroli long before Mirko, I still understand how the core works ; contact me by email (or on this list) if you have any question about it, I can have a -quick- look at it.

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-03 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much for your offer, I will compile my list of questions, and shoot at you;) Besides, I would like to talk with you, how can we more collaborate... No problem. You can sometime find me on

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-03 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote: (I understand that Laszlo didn't get the support needed but got some of his code rejected - lost interest.. ) I would like to add my 2

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
branches has taken over the part of doing maintenance on paroli's core (formerly tichy) and this is still the plan. Adding features to paroli right now has been opted against as Angus and I still hope to be able to release Om2009. This requires bug- fixing not new features. I am also

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-03 Thread Steven Le Roux
Om2009. This requires bug-fixing not new features. I am also collaborating with Mirko from OpenWrt to get paroli fully supported on this platform as well. So nobody here has any news from Mirko ? Neither QI-Hardware ? Not on the mailinglists I admit, but I am online on irc regularly these days

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-03 Thread Mirko Lindner
has been opted against as Angus and I still hope to be able to release Om2009. This requires bug-fixing not new features. I am also collaborating with Mirko from OpenWrt to get paroli fully supported on this platform as well. So nobody here has any news from Mirko ? Neither QI-Hardware

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-02 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 11:40 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote: (I understand that Laszlo didn't get the support needed but got some of his code rejected - lost interest.. ) I would like to add my 2 cents here;) I didnt stopped working on paroli at all, just my attention was distracted

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-02 Thread Laszlo KREKACS
Hi! On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 4:41 PM, Angus Ainslienyt...@openmoko.org wrote: 3 issues that need solving SIM card full when it's not really full as the messages are stored in the rootfs. Need to look into how to fake incoming sms', because, I dont use sms at all. Contacts disappearing

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-08-02 Thread Guillaume Chereau
On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Laszlo KREKACSlaszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: There are many ongoing work, which needs to be integrated into paroli. There are two branches by Dietrich, namely tacheles and rebase. Where tacheles needs some very deep (tichy/paroli) knowledge, to be able to

Re: om2009 - exceptional dbus.exceptions exception

2009-07-31 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Am Dienstag, den 28.07.2009, 01:49 +0200 schrieb pike: an interesting exception I noticed when playing with mdbus - when I interrupt a mdbus call with control-c, it throws a python exception at me saying (eventually) DBus in the version that we currently ship is broken wrt. SIGINT behaviour.

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Fri, 24.07.2009 at 08:40:45 +0200, Mirko Lindner vegyra...@paroli-project.org wrote: There still is the plan to release a final version of Om2009. It would be good if we could assemble a list of problems in paroli that need fixing for the release. I'm a bit out-of-sync with all

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-29 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, I meant to say On Wed, 29.07.2009 at 22:04:16 +0200, Toni Mueller supp...@oeko.net wrote: I'm a bit out-of-sync with all of you, due to other work, that I'm sorry if there's a bit of duplication, and I also don't expect a quick fix. I have one feature request, though: * Ability to

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
Less man power is the right way of putting it. There still is development on both projects but less than before. Laszlo is doing a great job improving things in paroli which I am very thankful for. There still is the plan to release a final version of Om2009. It would be good if we could

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] You should feel the air. As in the past testing was only a snapshot and AFAIK I never saw a [...] guess why their software crashes on latest shr, rebuild and upload again on opkg.org and so on). Well, Sebastian, i have to say Nicola has a point here. I agree. [cut] -- Kind Regards

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:41, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] You should feel the air. As in the past testing was only a snapshot and AFAIK I never saw a [...] guess why their software crashes on latest shr, rebuild and upload again on opkg.org and so on). Well, Sebastian,

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/7/27 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com Packaging apps on your own is bad by design (unless you're packaging closed source apps, but they are also bad :P), not changes in SHR. No it's not bad by design, because some people use other distros than SHR, like Om2008. Plus if

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 13:14, Michal Brzozowskiruso...@poczta.fm wrote: 2009/7/27 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com Packaging apps on your own is bad by design (unless you're packaging closed source apps, but they are also bad :P), not changes in SHR. No it's not bad by design,

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 01:14:45PM +0200, Michal Brzozowski wrote: 2009/7/27 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com Packaging apps on your own is bad by design (unless you're packaging closed source apps, but they are also bad :P), not changes in SHR. No it's not bad by design,

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-07-27, pon o godzinie 13:01 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak pisze: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:41, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] You should feel the air. As in the past testing was only a snapshot and AFAIK I never saw a [...] guess why their software crashes

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Angus Ainslie
On July 27, 2009 03:04:30 am Adolph J. Vogel wrote: I must admit this whole thread is starting to worry me. I don`t mean to pester but could someone please provide some clarrification on the status of Om2009 / Paroli? Om2009 is moving forward very slowly at the moment. My time is currently

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-27 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 14:00, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Dnia 2009-07-27, pon o godzinie 13:01 +0200, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak pisze: On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 12:41, Patryk Benderzpatryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] You should feel the air. As in the past testing was only a

om2009 - exceptional dbus.exceptions exception

2009-07-27 Thread pike
Hi an interesting exception I noticed when playing with mdbus - when I interrupt a mdbus call with control-c, it throws a python exception at me saying (eventually) ImportError: no module named dbus.exceptions Now, that sounds .. wrong. It's trying to properly raise an exception, but it can't ?

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 24 July 2009 23:40:14 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: I actually tried Zhone the other day (when Paroli or FSO failed to delete SMS's from the SIM) and was very pleased with it - I'd really like to see it developed further! I heard that multiple times now, I think the UI really has something

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
not want to hurt anyone is only my opinion. With om2009 release plan I just thought: SHR has no man power or will to maintain two different branch, the stable and the developing at least now, the same for OM guys with OM2009, but I'm lucky and I may have OM2009 on the flash to have a stable working

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: [...] We just don't want to release crap as stable. There were problems with either FSO, SHR, build system etc. We wanted to start releasing testing images regular every week... week ago. But there is opkg

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 17:21, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:38 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: [...] We just don't want to release crap as stable. There were problems with either FSO, SHR, build system etc. We wanted to start releasing

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-25 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 12:40:14AM +0300, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Mirko Lindnervegyra...@paroli-project.org wrote: Less man power is the right way of putting it. There still is development on both projects but less than before. Laszlo is doing a great job

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-24 Thread Mirko Lindner
Hi, On 24 Jul 2009, at 02:04, Nicola Mfb wrote: Hi! Is om2009 and paroli in a temporary sleeping status or was development terminated? Somethings changed in the last days and may be now there is less man power to improve them. Less man power is the right way of putting it. There still

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-24 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Mirko Lindnervegyra...@paroli-project.org wrote: Hi, On 24 Jul 2009, at 02:04, Nicola Mfb wrote: Hi! Is om2009 and paroli in a temporary sleeping status or was development terminated? Somethings changed in the last days and may be now there is less man

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-24 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
of Om2009. It would be good if we could assemble a list of problems in paroli that need fixing for the release. How about http://www.paroli-project.org/trac/report/1 or http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Paroli-issues ? r - someone unhappy feeling that no-one is working on Paroli or bugfixing it.. I

Re: om2009/paroli status

2009-07-24 Thread Nicola Mfb
to test fork where done and abandoned. Finally I just realized that it's a real nice hacking distro with tons of bleeding edge and regular breaking updates and there is no real interesting on stabilize it. I do not want to hurt anyone is only my opinion. With om2009 release plan I just thought

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-23 Thread Al Johnson
On Thursday 23 July 2009, pike wrote: Hi Is there a way to request WiFi activation from FSO straight from the command line ? Yes, if you search the archive you'll find some mdbus or dbus-send examples, or as saied you may use fsoraw. Sorry, I found none. I'm sure I just dont really

Re: om2009 activating wifi

2009-07-23 Thread Aapo Rantalainen
Most of the time I use only one essid, so I have this script to activate wlan: mdbus -s org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.SetResourcePolicy WiFi enabled iwconfig eth0 essid ESSID_NAME ifup eth0 -Aapo Rantalainen

om2009/paroli status

2009-07-23 Thread Nicola Mfb
Hi! Is om2009 and paroli in a temporary sleeping status or was development terminated? Somethings changed in the last days and may be now there is less man power to improve them. Regards Nicola ___ Openmoko community mailing list community

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