Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-09 Thread Niels Heyvaert
But if you wanna port Android onto the new OpenMoko. I'm sure GNUtoo will be pleased to do this too, as soon as he got a new OpenMoko. Guys, For those of you interested in running/building/improving Android on the Freerunner, check out http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/. Cupcake

Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-09 Thread urodelo
to see if I can be of any help, even I'm not able to program either my working day... :-P Thanks to all and sorry if I've used this ml for something which maybe wasn't so strictly related to it's main discussions urodelo On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:14:54 +0100, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva

Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-09 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 20:45 +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote: I'm sure GNUtoo will be pleased to do this too, as soon as he got a new OpenMoko. I've already one, I do not need 2 freerunner for this project. Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list

Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-09 Thread David Lanzendörfer
I've already one, You got me wrong. I'm talking of the gta04. I don't think you have one of them. Not even me has one of them yet. Only Nikolaus does, who is working on getting it running. I do not need 2 freerunner for this project. You do not even need one gta02. You just need ONE gta04 ;-)

Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-09 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/images/2009%20Xray/ So it does look ok and we have to find the SDRAM problem at a different place. N. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-08 Thread urodelo
Helo community. Today I've read an article about a new so for mobile phones with android installed. Its name is Replicant (http://replicant.us/). It comes from android, and the intention of the developers is to clean android from closed source code and provide a completely free/open

Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-08 Thread Brian Kemp
. Today I've read an article about a new so for mobile phones with android installed. Its name is Replicant (http://replicant.us/). It comes from android, and the intention of the developers is to clean android from closed source code and provide a completely free/open environment

Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-08 Thread urodelo
the GSM interface library written by OpenMoko. It should be fairly easy to port back collaborate. On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 15:55 +0100, urodelo wrote: Helo community. Today I've read an article about a new so for mobile phones with android installed. Its name is Replicant (http://replicant.us

Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?

2010-11-08 Thread urodelo
Hi. Thanks for the answer. So you both are already working on replicant? That's good. I either don't like the android license, that's because I've thought that having a free android, as the replicant is intended for, would be nice. I personally use qtmoko and shr, but for me more choices we

Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-25 Thread Rafael Campos
On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 11:47 AM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano mont...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 11:24 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: I looked at the specs and its screen is listed as wqvga hybrid resistive. i'll be interested in running ofono on it and a fast distro based on it. So

Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-25 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
at 11:47 AM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano mont...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 11:24 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: I looked at the specs and its screen is listed as wqvga hybrid resistive. i'll be interested in running ofono on it and a fast distro based on it. So if interested

Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-20 Thread Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
On Fri, 2009-11-20 at 11:24 +0800, Bill Kenworthy wrote: I looked at the specs and its screen is listed as wqvga hybrid resistive. i'll be interested in running ofono on it and a fast distro based on it. So if interested in this count me in Pietro

[OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-19 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
colaboration proprosal than devices available we must do a selection, so please don't blame us to much if you can't recieve a unit at first attempt :P Regards David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out

Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-19 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
if someone is already interested to do serious hacking on the device please contact me personally or through this list and I will try to make you arrive one of this unit, as you can understand if we receive more colaboration proprosal than devices available we must do a selection, so please don't

Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-19 Thread c_c
Hi, If you're looking at running fso-dbus e - I'm interested too. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/OT-Making-Geek-s-phone-not-so-offtopic-on-this-list-tp4031023p4032000.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com

Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-19 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
understand if we receive more colaboration proprosal than devices available we must do a selection, so please don't blame us to much if you can't recieve a unit at first attempt :P Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-19 Thread Atilla Filiz
is already interested to do serious hacking on the device please contact me personally or through this list and I will try to make you arrive one of this unit, as you can understand if we receive more colaboration proprosal than devices available we must do a selection, so please don't blame us

Re: [OT]Making Geek's phone not so offtopic on this list ;)

2009-11-19 Thread Bill Kenworthy
I looked at the specs and its screen is listed as wqvga hybrid resistive. I presume that hybrid resistive means it can still use a stylus? Recently tried my sons ipod which you cant use a stylus with - only useful with huge buttons and a GUI designed for finger use - basicly hopeless for fine

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Alexander Shulgin
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 03:06, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: An now some numbers the average image are 10kb so with the hypotesis than there are one image per article (yes I know there articles with more than a image but there a lot of articles without images

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Jörn Hagen
...@tuxbrain.com wrote: Are you uploading this changes to git? can I take a look? Btw is there any plan to implement images rendering? Math (images) are on our roadmap. Hopefully before the end of this year. The screen is only 1bit. So anything else would look kinda

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread sucotronic
? can I take a look? Btw is there any plan to implement images rendering? Math (images) are on our roadmap. Hopefully before the end of this year. The screen is only 1bit. So anything else would look kinda funny.  -Sean Well due I have clear than Internationalization and running other apps

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/11/3 David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com An now some numbers the average image are 10kb so with the hypotesis than there are one image per article (yes I know there articles with more than a image but there a lot of articles without images) there will be about 3.000.000

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 09:46:44 Alexander Shulgin wrote: Can we run zlib and, wait-wait... libpng on the device? :) Good point! png compress 1 bit images a lot! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread sucotronic
@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community You're right! One sample done with treshold tool in gimp and saved in png format: http://tinypic.com/r/mjs58m/4 -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/wikireader-Images-on-the-WR-not-so-imposible-P-was-wikireader

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
resource hungry Regarding licensing , well until OM or/and Wikipiedia doesn't say the contrary (for example considering Wikireader as an extension of the Wikipedia and allow all wikipedia image to be on Wikireader) we must stay in the save side so only explicitly free licenced images will be safe to use

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
in the save side so only explicitly free licenced images will be safe to use, I'm working on the http://download.wikimedia.org/enwiki/latest/enwiki-latest-image.sql.gz table to know how many pictures we are talking about. Also some way to not infringe the authoring and licencing text includings

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 03 November 2009 12:15:11 David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: Regarding compression, I believe lzma is already builded in the wikireader application and it compress the images a 50%. enough for start I guess. but I have to recongnize than the image on png looks really good do maybe

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Tilman Baumann
. The problem isn't so much about WikiMedia or OpenMoko, but that the original authors did not free the images. As such, whilst maybe they can be on Wikipedia, which is on a non-profit environment, distributing on the WikiReader (which is for-profit) may be legally problematic. I'm not sure

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
not much resource hungr Both png and pbm are 1 bit images without lossy compression. You can obtain exactly the same final image quality on both formats, but png will have smaller disk size. As I said lzma compresed pbm files are about the same size like a png file so if same results can be achieved

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
problematic than van Gough ... a lot of them relies on colors to diferentiate each other so italian,french,irish, and all the miriad trhee vertical colors flags will be very hard differentiable I especially think about the huge amount of svg content. I imagine, that this can be fairly easily detected

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Tilman Baumann
David Reyes Samblas Martinez wrote: But having maps, flags, schematics and other low dynamic stuff makes total sense. I see the flags more problematic than van Gough ... a lot of them relies on colors to diferentiate each other so italian,french,irish, and all the miriad trhee vertical

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Evgeniy Ginzburg
://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/quantize/ [snip] -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Michal Brzozowski
2009/11/3 Evgeniy Ginzburg nad@gmail.com On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 4:06 AM, David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com wrote: [snip] I have find a process[1] I think it can be industrialized to transform any image of the wikipedia to one more or less good to the device is clear

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread Evgeniy Ginzburg
images in ASCII, cannot see nothing. Using .PBM let you see (in worst case) something. -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-03 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
-normalize  outfile.pbm For reference see http://www.imagemagick.org/Usage/quantize/ [snip] -- So long, and thanks for all the fish. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo

[wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-02 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
is there any plan to implement images rendering? Math (images) are on our roadmap. Hopefully before the end of this year. The screen is only 1bit. So anything else would look kinda funny.  -Sean Well due I have clear than Internationalization and running other apps are totally posible and in fact

Re: [wikireader] Images on the WR not so imposible :P [was [wikireader]Error on parsing the spanish wikipedia]

2009-11-02 Thread David Reyes Samblas Martinez
uploading this changes to git? can I take a look? Btw is there any plan to implement images rendering? Math (images) are on our roadmap. Hopefully before the end of this year. The screen is only 1bit. So anything else would look kinda funny.  -Sean Well due I have clear than Internationalization

/usr/lib/lib** svn .so.0 problem in shr

2009-10-23 Thread Pieter Colpaert
Hi, Many applications (such as elmdentica, intone, ...) need the -ver-svn-02.so.0 version of the libs, so I just link them. Should tis not be automatically integrated into SHR? Just to help people cursing on the type-work I generated this using emacs ;) (I finally start to get the hang

Re: /usr/lib/lib** svn .so.0 problem in shr

2009-10-23 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, den 23.10.2009, 18:51 +0200 schrieb Pieter Colpaert: Hi, Many applications (such as elmdentica, intone, ...) need the -ver-svn-02.so.0 version of the libs, so I just link them. Should tis not be automatically integrated into SHR? That'd be really nice ideed! -- Marcel

Re: /usr/lib/lib** svn .so.0 problem in shr

2009-10-23 Thread Al Johnson
On Friday 23 October 2009, Pieter Colpaert wrote: Hi, Many applications (such as elmdentica, intone, ...) need the -ver-svn-02.so.0 version of the libs, so I just link them. Should tis not be automatically integrated into SHR? No, it shouldn't. If the packages are expected to run on shr

Re: /usr/lib/lib** svn .so.0 problem in shr

2009-10-23 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 06:57:18PM +0100, Al Johnson wrote: On Friday 23 October 2009, Pieter Colpaert wrote: Hi, Many applications (such as elmdentica, intone, ...) need the -ver-svn-02.so.0 version of the libs, so I just link them. Should tis not be automatically integrated into SHR

Re: QtMoko - screen undims every minute or so?

2009-09-28 Thread Jim Morris
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hi, When my FreeRunner is connected via usb to my laptop, the screen un-dims ever minute or so. Screen dim is set to default (20 seconds?), ut every minute the screen goes back to un-dimmed again, without me doing any activity on the FreeRunner. Why does it do

Re: QtMoko - screen undims every minute or so?

2009-09-28 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Jim Morris m...@e4net.com wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hi, When my FreeRunner is connected via usb to my laptop, the screen un-dims ever minute or so. Screen dim is set to default (20 seconds?), ut every minute the screen goes back to un-dimmed again

Re: QtMoko - screen undims every minute or so?

2009-09-09 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hi, When my FreeRunner is connected via usb to my laptop, the screen un-dims ever minute or so. Screen dim is set to default (20 seconds?), ut every minute the screen goes back to un-dimmed

Re: QtMoko - screen undims every minute or so?

2009-09-09 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Wednesday 09 September 2009 20:41:06 Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hi, When my FreeRunner is connected via usb to my laptop, the screen un-dims ever minute or so. Screen dim is set

Re: QtMoko - screen undims every minute or so?

2009-09-08 Thread Radek Polak
Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: Hi, When my FreeRunner is connected via usb to my laptop, the screen un-dims ever minute or so. Screen dim is set to default (20 seconds?), ut every minute the screen goes back to un-dimmed again, without me doing any activity on the FreeRunner. Why does it do

QtMoko - screen undims every minute or so?

2009-09-08 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hi, When my FreeRunner is connected via usb to my laptop, the screen un-dims ever minute or so. Screen dim is set to default (20 seconds?), ut every minute the screen goes back to un-dimmed again, without me doing any activity on the FreeRunner. Why does it do that? -- Regards, Torfinn Ingolfsen

How to hold my FreeRunner so the other end can hear me clearly?

2009-08-26 Thread Brolin Empey
) that I can have the speaker near my ear and the microphone near my mouth. People can hear me clearly with my Nokia 6103b, but sometimes I have to move the speaker so I can hear them better. However, because the FreeRunner is so much shorter, I have to hold it like this so people can hear me clearly

Re: [SHR] How to hold my FreeRunner so the other end can hear me clearly?

2009-08-26 Thread Al Johnson
On Wednesday 26 August 2009, Brolin Empey wrote: Is there any way to make this position practical, other than using a headset? Increase the mic gain. http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/SHR_User_Manual#Audio:_Volume

Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (5 Votes so far)

2009-08-12 Thread Bernd Prünster
). According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon. 2 Votes so far. +1 3 Votes +1 4 votes. +1 5 votes ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (6 Votes so far)

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
KaZeR: I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer). According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon. 2 Votes so far. +1 3 Votes +1 4 votes. +1 5 votes 6 votes, Thomas Franck voted in the forked thread

Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (7 Votes so far)

2009-08-12 Thread HighCat
, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR: I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer). According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon. 2 Votes so far. +1 3 Votes +1 4 votes. +1 5 votes 6 votes, Thomas Franck voted in the forked thread. So, with mine

Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (7 Votes so far)

2009-08-12 Thread The Digital Pioneer
-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze: Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR: I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer). According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon. 2 Votes so far. +1 3 Votes +1 4

Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (7 Votes so far)

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
schrieb KaZeR: I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer). According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon. 2 Votes so far. +1 3 Votes +1 4

OpenWrt ROCKS!!! :) So far... :| (And question about headset volume)

2009-07-24 Thread lists
Well, with OpenWrt I can finally place and receive calls and messages. And the phone responds to the screen when I get a call after it goes to sleep. IT WORKS!!! 8) However, the volume in the wire headseat is VERY low and I have no idea about the bluetooth. Does anybody knows how to make

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke? (latest whining thread)

2009-07-16 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Because July is so boring month, joining the latest complains thread. Btw, I just came back from a week's trip where FreeRunner was absolutely a gem to have. GPS was trustworthy, I was able to backup photos from camera to Neo via USB host mode (and onwards to USB stick or over WLAN/SSH to home

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke? (latest whining thread)

2009-07-16 Thread Yorick Moko
, Jul 16, 2009 at 4:04 PM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.comwrote: Because July is so boring month, joining the latest complains thread. Btw, I just came back from a week's trip where FreeRunner was absolutely a gem to have. GPS was trustworthy, I was able to backup photos from camera to Neo via

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-15 Thread DJDAS
, ShortOM for system script launching, Mokoko as media player, Leafpad as text editor and a bunch of other apps which work very well. So I really regret my decision to buy it. But then again, it was touted as a real phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-15 Thread Nicola Mfb
the interface when powered on, so udev scripts does not configure it, you have to manually type ifup, this was signaled and patch proposed everywhere and in the openembedded development list too but was ignored * wpa_roam support is broken in OE based distro (should work fine on debian, but I did not test

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-15 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: [..] So it works for me (some random kernel ops), and works for you, but saying WiFi works fine on freerunner may seems a joke IMHO. I was lucky, just now my FR crashed with om2009 while trying to using wifi: Unable

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread Thomas White
On Mon, 13 Jul 2009 12:30:29 -0700 Ben Wong lists.openmoko@wongs.net wrote: Thank you, Maddog, for your trenchant comment. I was having trouble verbalizing a response to mobiphil, but you've hit it exactly. To consider Openmoko a failure for having lower GPU performance is to

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread Joerg Lippmann
battery-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available). So I really regret my decision to buy it. But then again, it was touted as a real phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I thought that I could live with some minor flaws... I'm really for the idea

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread jeremy jozwik
neither use as a proper phone (speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too slow, too battery-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available). So I really regret my decision to buy it. But then again, it was touted as a real phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread David Ford
i don't know where you got this information, but by far and large the OM phones have never been touted as ready for end users by OM, or by the developers working on the neo1973 or freerunner software. while i share your angst that the phone has been out for so long and software is still pretty

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread Michal Brzozowski
something like a 100 engineers working on Android, and still many people say it's a failure. Maybe it means that making a phone isn't so easy? 2009/7/14 Joerg Lippmann jl_li...@donalbain.de When will that be? When the device is completely obsolete? Sorry, but after a year of waiting I still have

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread Warren Baird
available). So I really regret my decision to buy it. But then again, it was touted as a real phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I thought that I could live with some minor flaws... My experience has been quite different - I've found the OM to be quite

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread Nicola Mfb
problems, usb enumeration problems, suspend with no resume, difficulties to recharge the empty battery and so on. Now that openmoko does not develops the kernel anymore we have only to hope that actually volunters kernel maintainers will have time to improve it (and above all a copy of NDA documentation

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread Bernd Prünster
(speaker still WAY to low, too unstable, too slow, too battery-hungry) nor as a PDA (no usable software available). So I really regret my decision to buy it. But then again, it was touted as a real phone for end-users back then and being a happy Linux-User for 14 years, I thought that I could

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread William Kenworthy
it was supposed to be ready for the end user (thats when I bought it - first release) - its only when it got into the hands of users that this shown to be wrong - and at the time OM and community thought it was nearly there so there was no concious attempt to deceive. Time showed how wrong we all were

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-14 Thread Joshua Judson Rosen
mobi phil m...@mobiphil.com writes: So... my question is ... is it a joke [...] In this case I would really advice people to refrain in buying the openmoko, and better go for glofiish M800, that has a keyboard and radio as plus ... and that, it appears, also has a $300 higher MSRP. Almost

why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread mobi phil
200 reps @ 0.0028 msec (36.0/sec): Dot 200 reps @ 0.0026 msec (391000.0/sec): Dot 1000 trep @ 0.0026 msec (388000.0/sec): Dot so, you can see the differences between the numbers... However I am a bit confused, and need to read once more the manpage to know exactly how

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 04:02:38PM +0200, mobi phil wrote: I spent this weekend some time to compare and to try to understand what is slow, why is openmoko slow... At least concerning the display I came to the concusion that X windows is/should not too much to blame. Not X, but the bandwidth

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread Al Johnson
/sec): Dot 200 reps @ 0.0025 msec (393000.0/sec): Dot 200 reps @ 0.0028 msec (36.0/sec): Dot 200 reps @ 0.0026 msec (391000.0/sec): Dot 1000 trep @ 0.0026 msec (388000.0/sec): Dot so, you can see the differences between the numbers... However I am a bit

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread mobi phil
several slower... So ... whatsoever would be the device... forget about plan B, forget about openmoko for ever... Concentrate on linux for mobile device and encourage hackers to write drivers for them, eventually paying them per paypal etc. rgrds, mobi phil being mobile, but including technology http

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread arne anka
at least avoid tons of emails about slow graphics, about why X window etc. Again, M800 has keyboard, very usefull for a linux phone. Only drawback, it has only 64megs memory, but better have less applications running smoother, than several slower... So ... whatsoever would be the device

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread Jon 'maddog' Hall
those phones as reference...Again, M800 has keyboard, very usefull for a linux phone. Only drawback, it has only 64megs memory, but better have less applications running smoother, than several slower... So ... whatsoever would be the device... Stating this you show that you completely misunderstood

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
, but better have less applications running smoother, than several slower... So ... whatsoever would be the device... forget about plan B, forget about openmoko for ever... Concentrate on linux for mobile device and encourage hackers to write drivers for them, eventually paying them per paypal

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Ivan Shirokovivanshirok...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Well, I would say it was a very bad joke. I spent eq. of 400 dolars, I was waiting 1 year for glamo acceleration etc, etc. that would make the phone usable etc, and it turns out, that it will never be. With the

Re: why openmoko is so slow? Is it a joke?

2009-07-13 Thread Ben Wong
... So ... whatsoever would be the device... Stating this you show that you completely misunderstood the goals of the Openmoko project.  Porting the Linux kernel and having the upper levels of software interface available on a phone designed and manufactured by Samsung is completely different

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-07 Thread KaZeR
Marcel-2 wrote: Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:40:08 schrieb Morten: I agree, there's so many tricks that you just can't know them all by yourself. They should be written down (or made the default) Maybe making up some kind of a useful hints page would be good, where every hint has

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-07 Thread Bernd Prünster
KaZeR schrieb: Marcel-2 wrote: Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:40:08 schrieb Morten: I agree, there's so many tricks that you just can't know them all by yourself. They should be written down (or made the default) Maybe making up some kind of a useful hints page would be good

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-07 Thread Bernd Prünster
KaZeR schrieb: Marcel-2 wrote: Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:40:08 schrieb Morten: I agree, there's so many tricks that you just can't know them all by yourself. They should be written down (or made the default) Maybe making up some kind of a useful hints page would be good

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-07 Thread KaZeR
may still me there) I've already installed your package and posted a few comments on the SHR ML ;) It's indeed the fastest i've seen so far. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Why-is-it-so-slow---tp3189824p3218334.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-07 Thread The Digital Pioneer
i made a fast theme package for shr. speed-up is quite noticable.. install instructions and screenies here: http://jmccloud.jm.funpic.de/?p=54 (yes i want to spread the theme, becaus the more testers i have the faster i can iron out bugs which may still me there) Ahh, very nice. Much

[SHR-U] Bug report for nEo theme (was: Why is it so slow ?)

2009-07-07 Thread The Digital Pioneer
One bug report for the theme, I've got GUI corruption on the keyboard. The button on the upper right that selects which keyboard to use has some sort of mess on it. It's only on that button. That's the only problem I've spotted so far. Great theme! -- Thanks, The Digital Pioneer -- Please

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-07 Thread Bernd Prünster
The Digital Pioneer schrieb: i made a fast theme package for shr. speed-up is quite noticable.. install instructions and screenies here: http://jmccloud.jm.funpic.de/?p=54 (yes i want to spread the theme, becaus the more testers i have the faster i can iron out bugs which

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-05 Thread Petr Vanek
Mostly yes - uglyness in x11-16 is introduced by disabled smooth-scalling. My themes are available in SHR repo - elementary-theme-sixteen and e-wm-theme-illume-sixteen :) I've just installed them, but illume segfaults when I try to select themes Latest SHR unstable same here Petr

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-05 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Sun, Jul 5, 2009 at 09:24, Petr Vanekvan...@penguin.cz wrote: Mostly yes - uglyness in x11-16 is introduced by disabled smooth-scalling. My themes are available in SHR repo - elementary-theme-sixteen and e-wm-theme-illume-sixteen :) I've just installed them, but illume segfaults when I try

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-05 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Domingo, 5 de Xullo de 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak escribiu: Well, that's not problem with my theme :P But to change theme AFAIR you have to change engine to x11. Change engine, change theme and change engine back to x11-16. Great! It looks nice, and it scrolls nice +1 for default

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-04 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 7/3/09, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:00:09 +0200 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com (SK) wrote: About x11-16 uglyness - yestersay I've started to make theme, which in x11-16 looks like default theme in x11 :) Results on scap. how do you make it look

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-04 Thread David Garabana Barro
O Sábado, 4 de Xullo de 2009, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak escribiu: Mostly yes - uglyness in x11-16 is introduced by disabled smooth-scalling. My themes are available in SHR repo - elementary-theme-sixteen and e-wm-theme-illume-sixteen :) I've just installed them, but illume segfaults when I try

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-03 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
schrieb Morten: Martin Bernreuther wrote: Am Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2009 schrieb Bernd Prünster: export ELM_ENGINE=x11-16 is the correct line that needs to be added to /etc/profile (just copied form my /etc/profile file, so make sure its correct) How about adding this information

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-03 Thread David Garabana Barro
form my /etc/profile file, so make sure its correct) How about adding this information to the OpenMoko or distribution specific Wiki? (This was about SHR, wasn't it?) Or is it already there? Martin I agree, there's so many tricks that you just can't know them all by yourself

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-03 Thread Petr Vanek
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 11:00:09 +0200 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com (SK) wrote: About x11-16 uglyness - yestersay I've started to make theme, which in x11-16 looks like default theme in x11 :) Results on scap. how do you make it look better? different resolution of images? Petr

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-02 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 22:57, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: Again for the same reason you see, in the case of SHR for example, python apps interacting with python ophonekitd, interacting with python framework. You're wrong. In SHR, python apps which are in default image are only

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-02 Thread Nicola Mfb
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Krzyszkowiakseba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 22:57, Nicola Mfbnicola@gmail.com wrote: Again for the same reason you see, in the case of SHR for example, python apps interacting with python ophonekitd, interacting with python

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Bernreuther
Am Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2009 schrieb Bernd Prünster: export ELM_ENGINE=x11-16 is the correct line that needs to be added to /etc/profile (just copied form my /etc/profile file, so make sure its correct) How about adding this information to the OpenMoko or distribution specific Wiki

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-02 Thread Morten
Martin Bernreuther wrote: Am Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2009 schrieb Bernd Prünster: export ELM_ENGINE=x11-16 is the correct line that needs to be added to /etc/profile (just copied form my /etc/profile file, so make sure its correct) How about adding this information to the OpenMoko

Re: Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-02 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, 3. Juli 2009 01:40:08 schrieb Morten: Martin Bernreuther wrote: Am Donnerstag, 2. Juli 2009 schrieb Bernd Prünster: export ELM_ENGINE=x11-16 is the correct line that needs to be added to /etc/profile (just copied form my /etc/profile file, so make sure its correct) How

Why is it so slow ?

2009-07-01 Thread Omar Belkhodja
Hello Guys, I've purchased recently a new freerunner, and I'm really surprised until about the slowlyness of the interface. Comparing it to an iphone, the GUI is really very slow, using Android, or openmoko distribution. Could anyone explain why and if this will be ever better one day (more

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