Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-31 Thread Ian Stirling
Steve wrote: Ian Stirling wrote: I would like to see a bare GTA01 board being available - even after GTA02 becomes available. snip Looking at the Photos of the current version, the processor appears to be BGA. That'll make some things a bit hard. It'd be really nice if FIC routed any

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-30 Thread Ian Stirling
Harald Welte wrote: On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 03:07:44PM -0400, Kyle Bassett wrote: Harald, I am curious, what do you estimate the cost (as a percentage or dollar amount) that the GTA02 board kit would run compared to the expected $450 base price? I do prefer your idea about selling the

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-30 Thread Steve
Ian Stirling wrote: I would like to see a bare GTA01 board being available - even after GTA02 becomes available. There was some previous mention of available parts. I'd like to be able to buy the plastic case. That way I would have the option of possibly doing a little hardware hacking along

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-29 Thread Harald Welte
On Mon, Jul 09, 2007 at 10:12:47AM +0100, Cass, John P wrote: I have a question before I go ahead and order my Neo - there was an earlier discussion about the possibility of getting a GTA02 board in October so we can upgrade our Neos to 02 without having to buy a whole new phone (call it the

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-29 Thread Wolfgang S. Rupprecht
Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So you probably wouldn't save more than USD 50 (maximum) that way. And for that, you have all the risk of some assembly problem? Not that I think it is a good expenditure of FIC's limited employee's time at this point, but one thing to think about for

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-29 Thread Kyle Bassett
Harald, I am curious, what do you estimate the cost (as a percentage or dollar amount) that the GTA02 board kit would run compared to the expected $450 base price? I do prefer your idea about selling the GTA01Bv4 instead of upgrading...some people would just rather do it themselves...bragging

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-29 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Harald wrote: So you probably wouldn't save more than USD 50 (maximum) that way. And for that, you have all the risk of some assembly problem? So, 450 - 50 USD = 400 USD for a kit... Am 29.07.2007 um 21:07 schrieb Kyle Bassett: I am curious, what do you estimate the cost (as a percentage

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-29 Thread Kyle Bassett
I read what Harald wrote, I wanted to know a few more details than just the base price minus the cost of the screen... thanks On 7/29/07, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Harald wrote: So you probably wouldn't save more than USD 50 (maximum) that way. And for that, you

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-15 Thread Marc-Olivier Barre
On 7/14/07, Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rod Whitby writes: Is there anyone who is involved in hardware development and seriously believes that the cost of an upgrade board (which necessarily will have all the stuff like the LCD attached to it, cause they are not end-user replaceable

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-13 Thread Ian Stirling
Bryce Leo wrote: Now ian that's a sweet Idea but the only problem is finding a place to buy a psp display! For 289 I can get these http://teptronics.com/pl9phrb.html two things, just as trivially I have two 9in diagonal screens that I can use for just about anything! But yes, i very much see

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-13 Thread Rod Whitby
Is there anyone who is involved in hardware development and seriously believes that the cost of an upgrade board (which necessarily will have all the stuff like the LCD attached to it, cause they are not end-user replaceable parts) will be any cheaper than the cost of a whole phone? The stuff

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-13 Thread Joe Pfeiffer
Rod Whitby writes: Is there anyone who is involved in hardware development and seriously believes that the cost of an upgrade board (which necessarily will have all the stuff like the LCD attached to it, cause they are not end-user replaceable parts) will be any cheaper than the cost of a whole

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Eric Heinemann
The potential for this option is what made me order one now instead of October. I really hope Sean decides this would be a good idea. -Eric ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Frans Grotepass
On Thursday 12 July 2007 15:26, Eric Heinemann wrote: The potential for this option is what made me order one now instead of October. I really hope Sean decides this would be a good idea. -Eric I understood from his post that a discount on a complete unit for buyers of the dev phones is

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Mark Rossman
A discounted upgrade pack would be even better. It could be less of a discount and still have a smaller overall price. Thats good for everyone On 7/12/07, Frans Grotepass [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 12 July 2007 15:26, Eric Heinemann wrote: The potential for this option is what made

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Bryce Leo
I'll add an obligatory me too as well. Usually it wouldn't matter but money has been tight with all the recent vet. bills i've had to pay. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Brad Pitcher
But what are you guys planning on doing with the old board at that point? Throw it away? I would suggest keeping the old phone intact and just selling it when you get the new phone. You should get a pretty good discount that way. And that way there are more neos out there circulating and

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Brad Pitcher wrote: But what are you guys planning on doing with the old board at that point? Throw it away? I would suggest keeping the old phone intact and just selling it when you get the new phone. You should get a pretty good discount that way. And that way there are more neos out

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Bryce Leo
I have to agree with Ian. I'd probably add usb wireless and just use it as a Myth remote. And if i can't find anything to do with it, i might just keep it around as a spare board in case i manage to break something or something like that. Maybe even board only upgrades for a while. I mean that

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Don Park
On 7/12/07, Bryce Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Ian. I'd probably add usb wireless and just use it as a Myth remote. And if i can't find anything to do with it, i A remote is a good idea (maybe gta02 will get an IRDA emitter/detector). My idea for what to do with gta01 is

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Ian Stirling
Don Park wrote: On 7/12/07, Bryce Leo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have to agree with Ian. I'd probably add usb wireless and just use it as a Myth remote. And if i can't find anything to do with it, i A remote is a good idea (maybe gta02 will get an IRDA emitter/detector). My idea for what to

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Bryce Leo
Now ian that's a sweet Idea but the only problem is finding a place to buy a psp display! For 289 I can get these http://teptronics.com/pl9phrb.html two things, just as trivially I have two 9in diagonal screens that I can use for just about anything! But yes, i very much see where you're going.

Re: GTA02 Board-only option in October?

2007-07-12 Thread Ian Darwin
Several people have asked whether they will be able to buy just the GTA02 motherboard as an upgrade. To save Sean answering this one, he's still looking into it, and they're *very* busy (exhausted) this week drinking from the firehose of having the store go online. The question I think is not

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so we can upgrade our Neos to 02 without having to buy a whole new phone (call it the Philosopher's Neo). Sean - have you had a chance to confirm that there will be a GTA02 board only option available in October? It would be great to be able to buy a Neo now and get started freeing phones

Re: GTA02 Board only option in October?

2007-07-09 Thread Marco Barreno
I'm very excited about the Neo1973 and OpenMoko, but I can't justify buying one now and a whole new one in October. I've decided to wait because the WiFi is important enough to me. However, if there will be a board-only option in October that would make a Phase I Neo + a Phase II board not *too*