GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-26 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Dear all, some days ago the "GTA04 Group Tour" subscription was announced, with the goal that the number of units per production run is increased to reduce the price per unit to the benefits of all. The idea is that interested persons and institutions can preorder until 10th of Feb 2012 (right aft

GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-01 Thread Dr . H . Nikolaus Schaller
Dear all, now, several days after the announcement of the "GTA04 group tour", the first subscriptions have arrived (thanks you to all who have already subscribed!). And we have already seen many improvements by the kernel and distro developers that show how much superior the GTA04 hardware has b

RE: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-01 Thread Gay, John (GE Energy Services, Non-GE)
Subject: GTA04 Group Buy - Status >Dear all, > >... > >I think we need to heavily increase the awareness about the GTA04 in the Linux communities! There have been no reports in the usual new channels of the >announcement that the GTA04 is now ready to be ordered. At least I have not see

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Łukasz Pankowski
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller writes: > Dear all, > > now, several days after the announcement of the "GTA04 group > tour", the first subscriptions have arrived (thanks you to all who > have already subscribed!). > > And we have already seen many improvements by the kernel > and distro developers that

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 02 December 2011 13:21:34 lukp...@o2.pl wrote: > The most important question is whether it can work as a daily phone, > which means for me a solid hardware: no buzz and good quality sound > during the call. On gta02 people where complaining on the sound from > my gta02 even after buzfix

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread ml
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 14:45:16 +0100, Radek Polak wrote: On Friday 02 December 2011 13:21:34 lukp...@o2.pl wrote: The most important question is whether it can work as a daily phone, which means for me a solid hardware: no buzz and good quality sound during the call. On gta02 people where complai

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread rixed
Please everyone be prudent before claiming that this could be ready for general users as a conventional phone. Last time we pretended the openmoko was acceptable as a end-user product some non technical people bought it, then had tons of troubles (buzz, bad sound quality), then were responded that

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Iain B. Findleton
What is the status of the GTA04 graphics chip implementation. I have done a lot of work on the GTA02 with my graphics based apps, and the main issue for me is the very poor graphics performance with the chip in use on that platform. I run the apps over the USB link to any PC using X, and the pe

Re: GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
>What is the status of the GTA04 graphics chip implementation. I have >done a lot of work on the GTA02 with my graphics based apps, and the >main issue for me is the very poor graphics performance with the chip in >use on that platform. I run the apps over the USB link to any PC using >X, and t

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-27 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Hi Jorge, Am 26.11.2011 um 22:01 schrieb Jorge Costa: > Hi Nikolaus, > > two quick questions, I suppose you know the answer to the first one: > > 1) how many subscribers are there on this list ? The gta04-owners list has approx. 270 subscribers (may have some duplicates). The openmoko-communit

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-28 Thread Dave
I am a definite buyer - but have to wait till Christmas budget gets back to par. Looking forward to it. Dave On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > Hi Jorge, > > Am 26.11.2011 um 22:01 schrieb Jorge Costa: > > > Hi Nikolaus, > > > > two quick questions, I suppose you

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-28 Thread Dave
Maybe a list of intentions might help placate fears of a non-product. Dave On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Dave wrote: > I am a definite buyer - but have to wait till Christmas budget gets back > to par. Looking forward to it. > > Dave > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:50 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Sch

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-28 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 28.11.2011 um 11:33 schrieb Dave: > I am a definite buyer - but have to wait till Christmas budget gets back to > par. Looking forward to it. No Problem. We have intentionally made the subscription timeframe quite long. It extends beyond Christmas and New Year, and even after FOSDEM. At FO

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-30 Thread lores
Hi! I'm a definite buyer in 2012, too. Greets Lores // Le 28/11/11 11:37, Dave a écrit : > Maybe a list of intentions might help placate fears of a non-product. > > Dave > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Dave > wrote: > > I am a definite buyer - but have to wa

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-11-30 Thread rixed
Man, I was about bying a Nokia N9... Count me in! :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
While I was formulating another mail, there were two more subscription! Thank you very much! > Yes, everyone has his/her own decisions to take. And I know that it > is a quite huge amount of money for our passion (having myself spent > a lot of money and time for the GTA04 to happen). Here, I wa

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-01 Thread Dave
Hi, The article on /. won't hurt :) http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/12/01/1910213/openmokos-freerunner-rises-from-the-ashes On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:10 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > While I was formulating another mail, > there were two more subscription! Thank you very much! > > > Ye

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] > Here, I want to add that a friendly enthusiast (who wants to > stay anonymous) has spent close to 1 EUR to support > the project. He just believes in the idea of an open moko. Thank you anonymous enthusiast, your are spending your money wisely :) -- Patryk "Lea

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Xavier Cremaschi
Le 01/12/2011 19:10, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller a écrit : > While I was formulating another mail, > there were two more subscription! Thank you very much! > >> Yes, everyone has his/her own decisions to take. And I know that it >> is a quite huge amount of money for our passion (having myself spent

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani
[cut] > Here, I want to add that a friendly enthusiast (who wants to > stay anonymous) has spent close to 1 EUR to support > the project. He just believes in the idea of an open moko. Thank you anonymous enthusiast, your are spending your money wisely:) +1 -

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 03:18, Dave wrote: > Hi, The article on /. won't hurt :) > http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/12/01/1910213/openmokos-freerunner-rises-from-the-ashes Article? _Article_? Just 2 lines! Pathetic! Oh, it's my own ;-) I never thought it would hit the main page, though! Chris

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread rixed
Nice to hit main page. Although it's always depressing to read the comments on /. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-02 Thread Christ van Willegen
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 13:22, wrote: > Nice to hit main page. Thanks! > Although it's always depressing to read the comments on /. Yes, it is :-( Ah well, this may tickle a few more people to buy a new main board for their GTA02 cases... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 5

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status

2011-12-18 Thread Flemming Richter Mikkelsen
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 12:01, Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani wrote: > >> [cut] >> >>> >           Here, I want to add that a friendly enthusiast (who wants to >>> >           stay anonymous) has spent close to 1 EUR to support >>> >           the project. He just believes in the idea of an open moko

GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > it is obvious why the open and free software community needs > a device where every individual has control over the software. But isn't the GTM601 GSM/UMTS modem in the GTA04 just as closed as any other? How is then GTA04 an improvement over GTA02 in terms of o

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-01 Thread Radek Polak
On Thursday 01 of December 2011 20:09:02 msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: > Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: > > it is obvious why the open and free software community needs > > a device where every individual has control over the software. > > But isn't the GTM601 GSM/UMTS modem in the GTA04 just

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-01 Thread Michael Sokolov
Radek Polak wrote: > What's the point in investing time into device that is no longer manufactured > and the number of users is decreasing to zero? If it is so worthless in your eyes, why are you (not Radek personally, but some others in this community) guarding that "moko" fw src/object code s

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 02 December 2011 05:26:16 msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: > But seriously, swapping PCBAs between GTA02 and GTA04 is a zero-sum > game. The number of existing {case + LCM + GSM antenna + other bits} > sets is finite, and it stays the same whether you leave the original > GTA02 PCBAs in

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Radek Polak wrote: > With my wooden case i had fully working phone - only single part > that was from GTA02 was the speaker + microphone. I really dont > think this is big problem. Yes, and if I wanted to do the same thing (use a self-made wooden case), I could have done it just as well with my

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Radek Polak
On Friday 02 of December 2011 17:53:15 msoko...@ivan.harhan.org wrote: > So I still disagree with your reasoning chain of > > (shortage of existing GTA02 units) -> (GTA04 is the only solution) i am rather saying: (shortage of existing GTA02 units) -> (GTA04 is the solution) Also pool graphics

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-02 Thread Michael Sokolov
Radek Polak wrote: > i am rather saying: > (shortage of existing GTA02 units) -> (GTA04 is the solution) It is *a* solution for some classes of users. It is not *the* solution for all use cases. > Also pool graphics performace of GTA02 make the user experience very bad - > hardly acceptable f

Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-03 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Michael Well I for one would like a smartphone with completely open software - if an open implementation of baseband code also led to an improvement in user experience on the freerunner, that would be a bonus. Like you, I'm not too concerned about rules imposed on us by large corporations, i

Re: [Gta04-owner] GTA04 Group Buy - Status - 2 old phones for free

2011-12-01 Thread Alexander Lehner
If someone's in need of the case: I have a Neo 1973 and a Freerunner (with probably some HW-glitches on GPS) which I would give away for free (as they are, including electronic parts and battery) to people who preorder a GTA04 from Nikolaus. I have a third phone and already ordered the GTA04