Would you post more details about this please? I have used JTAG for
programming Atmel micros but am not yet very familiar with how it is
used for system exploration when there are multiple devices on the
bus. What is your favorite hardware and software for doing this?
On 6/12/07, [EMAIL
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
used for system exploration when there are multiple devices on the
bus.
We only have the Samsung MCU in the JTAG chain.
What is your favorite hardware and software for doing this?
We use our own debug board. You need a special flexible cable to
connect to JTAG (*), and
JTAG is basically a way to inspect and/or set each and every register on the
processor, not only the registers you're familiar with from a programmer's
point of view, but also registers that might hold the state of input and
output pins, etc. Also since you can control each register and single
Marcin Juszkiewicz wrote:
Dnia środa, 13 czerwca 2007, Werner Almesberger napisał:
Shawn Rutledge wrote:
What is your favorite hardware and software for doing this?
We use our own debug board. You need a special flexible cable to
connect to JTAG (*), and our board has the corresponding
Michele Manzato wrote:
Don't get me wrong, I can guess (some of) the reasons behind the plain
words. But then I wonder whether there is really any transparency in the
development of Neo/OpenMoko?
One of the things I've seen while lurking on the list is the propensity for
people to want Neo
I agree definitely with the parts that I excerpted below from what John
said, and would further like to point out what I personally see as one of
the major strengths of this project: To show the world and other device
makers that there can be a market for open mobile devices/phones. Of course
First, the mailing list is to be used for ideas and communication. You
are absolutely correct that FIC will have to make the final decisions
about what is and isn't included. However, suggesting that people
shouldn't be expressing their interests about features no matter how
Jonathon Suggs wrote
However, suggesting that people
shouldn't be expressing their interests about features no matter how
niche/picky/whatever is just plain wrong.
I specifically said, in my summary paragraph:
By all means give them feedback, tell them your desires, etc. But please
don't
You are all going to become slaves of capitalists (Sean on behalf of FIC).
Better to support guys from xda-developers.com (like cr2) to make
machines like HTC Universal a real free phones
Milan
At 22:51 12.6.2007, you wrote:
Jonathon Suggs wrote
However, suggesting that people
Seems like xda-developers.com is focused on reverse engineering cell
phones. Specifically because the company that made those phones wouldn't
give them the information. And that's better than FIC how? FIC is giving
us the information! How is that bad?
-Steven
On 6/12/07, Milan Votava [EMAIL
Becose is clear who is a foe and who is a friend
Sorry you are to blinded to understand...
At 00:31 13.6.2007, Steven ** wrote:
Seems like
xda-developers.com is focused on
reverse engineering cell phones. Specifically because the company
that made those phones wouldn't give them the
(correction)
Because is clear who is a foe and who is a friend
Sorry, you are already too blinded to understand...
At 00:31 13.6.2007, Steven ** wrote:
Seems like
xda-developers.com is focused on
reverse engineering cell phones. Specifically because the company
that made those phones
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 00:31 schrieb Steven **:
Seems like xda-developers.com is focused on reverse engineering cell
phones. Specifically because the company that made those phones wouldn't
give them the information. And that's better than FIC how?
HTC phones are commodity hardware
(sorry for my english)
I'm subscribed for this this thread for about 6m now. I don't want to
be rude but:
1/ 99% of this thread is about an unrealistic things to be
implemented on a non existent (underpowered) device. Who in the World
cares about things being discussed in this thread?
damn, wrong address, sorry oleg. repost. twice
can someone at openmoko fix the auto-generated reply-to fields on this
mailing-list? every time this gets me
On 6/13/07, Oleg Gusev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
HTC phones are commodity hardware that anybody can buy
right here and right now. Linux on
Am Mittwoch, 13. Juni 2007 01:42 schrieb Robin Paulson:
are we duplicating work? familiar is 6+ years old, i'm sure they must
have some good ideas that can be used? maybe we can make openmoko a
fork from their project?
Robin,
please read down to the bottom of the status page.
All modern
On 6/13/07, Milan Votava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(sorry for my english)
I'm subscribed for this this thread for about 6m now. I don't want to
be rude but:
why so long? you must be interested or you would have long since left
1/ 99% of this thread is about an unrealistic things to be
why
Milan Votava writes:
You are all going to become slaves of capitalists (Sean on behalf of FIC).
Better to support guys from xda-developers.com (like cr2) to make
machines like HTC Universal a real free phones
Better to work on a machine in spite of the manufacturer rather than
with the
Milan Votava writes:
1/ 99% of this thread is about an unrealistic things to be
implemented on a non existent (underpowered) device. Who in the World
cares about things being discussed in this thread? People wants to
use their pones, to make calls, send sms/mms/emails. I'm being tired
to read
Joe Pfeiffer wrote:
Milan Votava writes:
You are all going to become slaves of capitalists (Sean on behalf of FIC).
Better to support guys from xda-developers.com (like cr2) to make
machines like HTC Universal a real free phones
Better to work on a machine in spite of the manufacturer
kenneth marken wrote:
but the neo seems to be designed from day one to be made from virtually
of the shelf parts. FIC is just the hired factory (like how apple do for
their stuff or microsoft does for the xbox's), they hold no copyright or
patent on the neo iirc. so if FIC comes up short, one
On 6/12/07, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenMoko (the registered organisation, separate from FIC the company who
is creating the first piece of hardware designed for the OpenMoko
software) never promised open hardware. They promised open software
(the OpenMoko software, which is being
Joe Friedrichsen wrote:
Yes, most of the hardware designs and schematics aren't distributed,
Actually, I hope that we can release at least schematics of the
debug board and the immediate surroundings of the MCU. There seems
to be a lot of red tape surrounding all this, though :-(
but there are
Joe Friedrichsen wrote:
Given that this phone is meant to be opened and tinkered with
I'm not sure that that is actually the case. (Sean, please correct me
if I am wrong in the following - I will be pleasantly surprised if you
are able to do so).
Yes, the OpenMoko software is meant to be fully
On Tue, 12 Jun 2007, Joe Friedrichsen wrote:
On 6/12/07, Rod Whitby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OpenMoko (the registered organisation, separate from FIC the company who
is creating the first piece of hardware designed for the OpenMoko
software) never promised open hardware. They promised
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