On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 3:53 PM, Sean Moss-Pultz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jonathan Spooner wrote:
> > I would of thought in the EU you'd need a supplier who is big enough to
> > bring over GTA02s by the container-load, not in 10s. Its the only way
> > to keep the price down everywhere else.
r example, will be as easy as buying 1 phone. And
there will be a discount.
Steve
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ramsesoriginal wrote:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
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phone. And there
will be a discount.
Steve
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Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
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Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:
Andy Powell wrote:
399$ would make 257 EUR
Shipping from China / Taiwan / US appr. $70 to Europe
is $469, makes 302 EUR
plus 19% VAT is 360 EUR for a self import at the actual price.
Well, I don't think that a seller buys the shipping of each phone
$70... M
Definite cultural problem within the open source/free software
community. People use it for both definitions of 'free', and complain
heavily over everything that isn't free (in $$). Small companies
need to account for the risks they're taking for the community in
their margins, otherwise they st
On 21 Mar 2008, at 10:01, Andy Powell wrote:
On Thursday 20 March 2008 16:05, Stroller wrote:
But we must remember that an importer has to tie his own money up in
stock (money that could otherwise be earning interest for him) and
gamble with the currency exchange rates. If he buys when the
On Friday 21 March 2008 11:01:37 Andy Powell wrote:
> Actually the best way to handle that is to buy currency at a fixed,
> guaranteed price. ukforex (no affiliaton) do this sort of thing. I don;t
> understand why more people don't do it. If you're importing stuff on a
> regular basis it just make
On Mittwoch, 19. März 2008, Carlo E. Prelz wrote:
> Quoting Peter Trapp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Well, I've paid 300€ (=300$) for Neo1973 even without any reseller and
> > group purchasing with two other guys to save shipping costs (to
> > Germany)!!
> >
> > So, where is the big problem?
>
> You c
ramsesoriginal ha scritto:
The same also holds true if (and here comes the crazy part: correct me
if it's illegal) someone want's to buy a bunch of Freerunners (let's
say 10), customize them (with custom themes, programs, settings, maybe
even pre-filled data, some additional hardware, case mods,
ramsesoriginal wrote:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
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Christian Beier ha scritto:
Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
> schrieb "Carlo E. Prelz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>> What we Europeans would need is a FIC subsidiary somewhere here,
On Thursday 20 March 2008 16:05, Stroller wrote:
> But we must remember that an importer has to tie his own money up in
> stock (money that could otherwise be earning interest for him) and
> gamble with the currency exchange rates. If he buys when the dollar
> is at 1:X and the exchange rate ch
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 3:52 PM, Pietro m0nt0 Montorfano
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Christian Beier ha scritto:
>
> > Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
> > schrieb "Carlo E. Prelz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> >
> >> What we Europeans would need is a FIC subsidiary somewhere here,
> >>
> > A
Having lived in the US and Europe...
1) We usually do pay shipping from China. It's usually built into the cost
of the product so it's hard to say exactly what it is. I would guess less
than $10 a unit.
2) We do not have VAT in the US. Closest thing we have to it is sales tax.
Most states have
On 20 Mar 2008, at 13:24, Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote:
On 3/19/08, thomasg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
you have to pay the 19% even if you import by yourself (the 19%
are also on
the shipping fees).
That is not correct (at least here in Norway we do NOT pay VAT for the
shipping fee
Christian Beier ha scritto:
Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
schrieb "Carlo E. Prelz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
What we Europeans would need is a FIC subsidiary somewhere here,
As I read FIC has some branch in Czech or Slovakia. Thing is: If you
ship a container €70 is definitely not the
Am Wed, 19 Mar 2008 22:48:10 +0100
schrieb "Carlo E. Prelz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> What we Europeans would need is a FIC subsidiary somewhere here,
As I read FIC has some branch in Czech or Slovakia. Thing is: If you
ship a container €70 is definitely not the price per device.
You can help: motiva
On 3/19/08, thomasg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> you have to pay the 19% even if you import by yourself (the 19% are also on
> the shipping fees).
That is not correct (at least here in Norway we do NOT pay VAT for the
shipping fees)
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Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
Date: mer 19 mar 08 05:58:19 -0400
Quoting Kevin Dean ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > both US and EU must offer some sort of warranty.
>
> I don't believe this is true. IIRC the EU requires sellers or
> manufacture
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 5:48 PM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> both US and EU must offer some sort of warranty.
I don't believe this is true. IIRC the EU requires sellers or
manufacturers to warranty items (or perhaps specific items) but
there's no such requirement in the USA (thou
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
Date: Wed 19 Mar 08 07:58:50PM +0100
Quoting Peter Trapp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Well, I've paid 300€ (=300$) for Neo1973 even without any reseller and group
> purchasing with two other guys to save shipping costs
Andy Powell wrote:
399$ would make 257 EUR
Shipping from China / Taiwan / US appr. $70 to Europe
is $469, makes 302 EUR
plus 19% VAT is 360 EUR for a self import at the actual price.
Well, I don't think that a seller buys the shipping of each phone $70...
Maybe they'll pay that for 10 phon
Andy Powell wrote:
400USD != 400EUR
If this is an indication of the pricing for Europe, please arrange for some
European versions to get shipped to the USA where we can buy them and have
them shipped to Europe.
I do agree with you...!
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Hi folks,
several days ago I got from www.pulster.de the price 399€ for the stock
unit, incl. shipment, taxes etc.
Am Mittwoch, den 19.03.2008, 19:58 +0100 schrieb Peter Trapp:
...
> > 400USD != 400EUR
...
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On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 7:09 PM, ian douglas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Vincent wrote:
> > 2. 19% VAT in germany
> > 3. x% additional fees (recycling, ...) in germany/europe
> >
> > Regarding points 1, 2, 3 and 6 - doesn't the US have something similar?
>
> 2. I'm originally from Canada,
Vincent wrote:
2. 19% VAT in germany
3. x% additional fees (recycling, ...) in germany/europe
Regarding points 1, 2, 3 and 6 - doesn't the US have something similar?
2. I'm originally from Canada, but my experience in the US is that each
state, and sometimes within separate counties
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:56, Andy Powell wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:10, Steven ** wrote:
> > Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
> > http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to
> >-b razil/
> >
> > "The price range for the Neo FreeRu
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 17:56, Andy Powell wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:10, Steven ** wrote:
> > Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
> > http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to
> >-b razil/
> >
> > "The price range for the Neo FreeRu
On Mittwoch, 19. März 2008, Andy Powell wrote:
> On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:10, Steven ** wrote:
> > Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
> > http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to
> >-b razil/
> >
> > "The price range for the Neo FreeRunner h
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:40 PM, thomasg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Since nobody seems to realize it, I guess I have to explain this.
> 1. Even the distributor has to pay shipping
> 2. 19% VAT in germany
> 3. x% additional fees (recycling, ...) in germany/europe
> 4. 2 years warranty in germany
On Mittwoch, 19. März 2008, Lally Singh wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Steven **
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
> >
> > http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to
> >-brazil/
> >
> > "The price r
PM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
> > Date: mer 19 mar 08 05:51:01 +0100
> >
> >
> > Quoting Sander van Grieken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >
> > > If I recall correctly, the ini
Oh wow, I've been paying a little bit of attention to those exchange
rates, but I hadn't realized it's gotten that bad.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 1:07 PM, Carlo E. Prelz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
> Date: m
Subject: Re: Price of the Freerunner published?
Date: mer 19 mar 08 05:51:01 +0100
Quoting Sander van Grieken ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> If I recall correctly, the initial Freerunner pricing was $450 for
> the device and $600 for the devkit.
What I really hope is that the pr
On Wednesday 19 March 2008 16:10, Steven ** wrote:
> Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
> http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-b
>razil/
>
> "The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
> to be less than 400 USD — wh
On Wednesday 19 March 2008, Steven ** wrote:
> Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
> http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-b
>razil/
>
> "The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
> to be less than 400 USD — which is
> On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Steven **
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
>>
>> http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-brazil/
>> :
>> "The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's g
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 12:10 PM, Steven **
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
>
> http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-brazil/
> :
> "The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
> t
Was reading Planet OpenMoko and found the following at
http://www.vanille-media.de/site/index.php/2008/03/18/from-switzerland-to-brazil/
:
"The price range for the Neo FreeRunner has been published, it's going
to be less than 400 USD — which is quite a substantial improvement
over the estimated 650
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