IIRC, the "custom cable" is actually part of the charger, i.e. charger
and cable is one unit.
If you think about it, this makes sense: If the cable were a separate
unit, you might plug the cable by accident into a charger (or worse,
your laptop) that could not deliver 1 Amp, the phone would th
I would say that it must have:
- the phone
- the fancy stylus
- headset
Optionally:
- extra battery
- Y-cable
Not:
- SD card
- charger
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steve wrote:
> [...] your feedback
Here are my 2 cents:
Must have:
Neo ;)
Stylus
Optional:
Charger (Would be useful, at least for end user, so he's sure he doesn't
stress a normal usb charger too much (>500mA))
Not want:
Headset (Most of them are crap and I don't even open the plastic bag
anym
Ivo Anjo wrote:
Finally, the miniSD card, DEFINITELY leave it off, unless you get a
really really really good deal, because you can buy very high-capacity
nowadays, so it doesn't make much sense to pay for 512mb or such on the
neo, and then buy a multi-gb one (I am definitely getting one of tho
2008/4/14, Marcus Bauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> [...] the
> great news is that the Neo can use any USB charger.
>
> I have a Neo 1973 and use it on a daily basis. The great thing is that
> you don't need any special charger, you can use any $5 charger and it
> works. There is a small program out th
Well, you'll get used to it :)
USB-Charging is fine. You can use a standard usb-wallcharger as well as any
mini-usb cable or usb-carchargers and so on.
I have some devices that can only be loaded over usb and some who can also
use a proprietary charger. I mostly use usb, because I have a dozend
cha
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 12:36 +0200, Andreas Kemnade wrote:
> > It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
> > included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
> > one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
> > to it),
Hi,
On Mon, 14 Apr 2008 09:56:10 +0100
"Ivo Anjo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
> included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
> one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff direc
count on my vote on this one, Y cable must be a must
;)
--- ramsesoriginal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
escribió:
> On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Ivo Anjo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for
> powered usb host was
> > included. Since I understand that the ca
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Ivo Anjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
> included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
> one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
> to
Hi,
I spoke to my wife ("typical" end user).
She expects a
- computer independent charger
- headset
- pouch
Best regards
Dirk
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It would be cool also if the Y-cable needed for powered usb host was
included. Since I understand that the cable is kind of custom, and that's
one of the highlights of the neo (being able to connect usb stuff directly
to it), I think it should be included.
I also agree with including the charger.
Reading your email I wonder if there is a misunderstanding here. A "USB
charger" is not a device that gets plugged into a computer but it is
simply a device that supplies power on a USB-like plug. It can be a wall
charger or a car charger.
If you go to ebay and type in "usb charger" you get plent
if it could work with Weston UM2 :) or any Shure ;)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 8:49 AM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
> non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
>
> I believe there was some discussi
I think I'm going to have to completely disagree on this one. I RARELY plug
anything into a computer to simply charge it. I'd venture almost never.
The idea that I HAVE to plug a device into a computer to charge it is
completely ridiculous to me. I'd bet my experience as a product marketer
that c
On Mon, 2008-04-14 at 08:38 +0200, Erland Lewin wrote:
> 2008/4/14, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
> 2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
>
> How long will charging the phone take with the fast charger vs. a
> n
Regarding a headset, how easy will it be to get a third party (wired,
non-bluetooth) headset with decent sound for the Freerunner?
I believe there was some discussion on the kernel list about impedances,
which made it sound like many standard headsets would not give good audio,
because they have t
2008/4/14, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> 1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
> 2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
How long will charging the phone take with the fast charger vs. a normal
charger?
If a standard USB charger will take on the order of 12 hours
Robin Paulson wrote:
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
personally, i'd want:
*a modified charger (if one is made)
*a pouch
included, and that's it
I think for a phone that's heavily touch-based, a stylus is a must-have.
D
2008/4/14 Dirk Deimeke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > let me know what you think. My inclination is Open accessories.
>
> I agree to Open accessories.
>
> Thinks I would like to see in the box:
> - Charger
> - USB-Cable
> - Headset
>
> I also would like to have - may be separately:
> - Stylus
>
On Monday 14 April 2008 00:13, steve wrote:
> There will be two products. Buy 1 OR buy 10. ( in 850 and 900 versions of
> course)
This seems like an odd decision to me, is it just a limitation of the store
software you are using? Even OS Commerce can handle price breaks.
The same thing happens
Hi,
> let me know what you think. My inclination is Open accessories.
I agree to Open accessories.
Thinks I would like to see in the box:
- Charger
- USB-Cable
- Headset
I also would like to have - may be separately:
- Stylus
- Pouch
- MicroSD
Just my 0.02 cents.
Dirk
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>But is the software going to dep
>But is the software going to depend on a stylus? If so, it should be
>made very clear when purchasing that the customer will need to get one.
>Even better would be to include a simple cheap one, it would be better
>then nothing.
i think we should include a ten-pack of cocktail sticks plus a groov
Thanks.
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steve ha scritto:
> Many people have
erved. Based on feedback from the
community.
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of course it has all the goodies.
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Thank you Steve for precisions.
One more
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 4:13 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well,
>
>My goal is to open the accessory business. Far too often companies take a
> standard accessory product
> And make minor changes that require the customer to go back to them for
> replacements. So, we are pushing
>
steve ha scritto:
Many people have voiced there opinion to me about what EXTRAS they would
like in the box ( most of them legal) so, the team will make a decision.
We won't please everybody, but it will be a rational decision, based on
cost of the extra goodies, availability, and importance, and
steve ha scritto:
This is a very difficult issue. . Let me Nutshell it.
Imho, not so much!
1. We have a custom charger that can fast charge the phone.
2. Standard usb chargers will work just fine.
[CUT]
Some people philosophically believe we shouldn't do custom chargers.
So, I get to
Lowell Higley ha scritto:
1) include the custom (closed) cable or at least make it an option
I do agree with this... Also if the cable is sold only by Openmoko it
should be there, since it's a so important thing for using the phone as
a "standard phone" (I not always have my PC around, and ne
t;
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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&g
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 16:13:16 -0700
"steve" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Stylus is of course on the goodie list. Things I will give away to
> the first few thousand buyers.
>
> If you like the stylus approach, the one we have is great. I know its
> great because at every trade show
> when I leav
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> 2008/4/13, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > The STANDARD box cont
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and no more stylus ?
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2008/4/13, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to
> add some other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought t
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On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The STANDARD box contents w
organized, get ready.
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Great news that things are getting so
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Hi Steve
Thank you for the update.
I think you (you all from openmoko) worked very well, and I am happy to know
these update.
According me
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 9:44 AM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add some
> other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
If the phone can be charged with a Motorola charger, I'm personally
fine with saving some m
and no more stylus ?
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 7:22 PM, Erland Lewin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/4/13, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add
> some
> > other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
>
> There won't
2008/4/13, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> The STANDARD box contents will be a Phone and Battery. I expect to add some
> other goodies, but only for the first few thousand buyers.
There won't be a charger in the standard box? And I thought there was
a custom charger allowing the Freerunner to charg
Matt Manjos
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On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. Pricing
> We scrubbed the BOM ( bill of materials). We eliminated t
Great news that things are getting so finalized.
I have a question about the '10-pack'. I'm thinking about getting
together a group order for my local LUG. Suppose we have 11 people
interested? Is it more a 10-plus pack, or would that extra 1 phone have
to be ordered at full 399 price?
More thanks Steve!
I'm glad you guys slimmed down the original packaging, as anything above
~400 becomes very prohibitive (as a work in progress platform) for many
people.
Keep up the great work and thanks for the frequent updates!
-Kyle
* proud GTA01 hacker, GTA02 stalker ;-) *
On Sat, Apr
Hi Steve
Thank you for the update.
I think you (you all from openmoko) worked very well, and I am happy to
know these update.
According me was a good idea to remove some accessories to cut off the
price: a lot of person, can not to have too much money to buy for
something that still they do
Thats great news!
Just a quick question: will it be possible to buy the lunchbox as an
own product?
On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 1:51 PM, Shawn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Thanks Steve for the update. I have my money all saved up and ready!
>
> . . .Shawn
>
>
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Thanks Steve for the update. I have my money all saved up and ready!
. . .Shawn
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I thought I would combin
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2. Pricing
> We scrubbed the BOM ( bill of materials). We eliminated the Luxurious bits.
> Optimized the box like it was code. The first thing we got rid of
> was the lunchbox. It was cool, but it was expensive and heavy. Eli
Fantastic! Looking forward to it!
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 8:30 PM, James Olney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the update, sounds good, but what about the UK? and Europe?
>
> Many thanks,
>
> james
>
>
>
> On 11/04/2008, Ivo Anjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the update, lo
Thanks for the update, sounds good, but what about the UK? and Europe?
Many thanks,
james
On 11/04/2008, Ivo Anjo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the update, looking forward to having a neo of my own :)
>
> Ivo
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
this is the news we all have been waiting for:)
And it is a very nice price also.
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Thanks for the update, looking forward to having a neo of my own :)
Ivo
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 6:50 PM, Kevin Dean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrea Debortoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > what about EUROS prices??
>
> IF, and this is an IF, it works as it
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 1:32 PM, Andrea Debortoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> what about EUROS prices??
IF, and this is an IF, it works as it did with the GTA01, the USD
price is technically incorrect. When i paid, it charged my debit card
for $309 worth of Taiwan dollars. I would imagine that yo
Excellent, thanks for the update!
On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:50 PM, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT, or
> production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from the first PVT
> run. Michael Shiloh will be bac
what about EUROS prices??
I hope that no 1:1 change will be applied...
thanks a lot for the news!!
Andrea
2008/4/11, steve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>
>
> I thought I would combine a couple posts today. First an update on PVT,
> or
> production verification test. Phones are being sent to me from
Very reasonable.
Is there any chance you guys could update your website to take Amex?
Matt
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